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Ultram was developed for FM. In order to metabolize it one must have no

defects in Gene 2D6. See Genelex.com, or just look up Genelex and go to the

page that shows other drugs in the same class that can make some of us very

sick, such as codeine.

I took one Ultram and I probably would not be here if I had taken two. I

vomited for 6 hours, my heart did that funny thing for about 2 hours, my CNS

was wrecked and to top it all off--I began to hallucinate. We called the

hospital and the doctor and they said that it would be out of my system in

about 4 hours. I was in bed for three days after taking Ultram. It should be

off the market, just like the other " chemicals " that I write about until my

fingers fall off. In order to see if you will react to certain sets of drugs

one can send in a cheek scraping to Genelex (no $$) and pay about $150 to

$200, or you can scan the drug list under Gene 2D6 and see which drugs in

that category already make you sick.

CFS/FM/MCS patients should NEVER take a whole pill of anything initially.

Crush it up or open a cap unless the manufacturer says not to do this. In

some cases I have opened something like Dexedrine and taken four or five of

those tiny balls and, yes, for me, that is a dose. With ritalin, same thing

goes, except that that drug causes me to fall asleep.

Many of us are disautonomic (meaning that our regulation of heart rate, blood

pressure and vasomotor system, etc. is not properly controlled by our brain)

and additionally many of us cannot metabolize chemical pesticides and drugs.

In the case of Ultram, the manufacturers know the percentage of the

population who will be sensitive to it--anyone who cannot take codeine, yet

there is no warning on the label. I think 20% of the population may have

life-threatening problems with Ultram--just as a guess--and yet the

pharmaceutical industry can do as it pleases.

We have to recognize that although I took only one pill, my insurance company

paid probably $50-$100 and I paid $10. What a bonanza for a drug that does

not work for me and makes me sick, plus allows me no legal recourse. Since

taking Ultram did not kill me or constitute a claim in excess of one million

dollars, no lawyer would care to represent me. Had I taken two of the pills I

honestly believe that there would be no such internet handle as

jannarone@..., any more, as if anyone in industry would care. In that

case the pharmaceutical company would still get out of it somehow, probably

based on the fact that I am already sick.

We must remember who makes the laws--congress, controlled by the chemical and

pharmaceutical industries. Who controls the FDA? Chemical and pharmaceutical

companies. All of us should take heed regarding drugs actually targeted for

us. Ultram's target audience is FM sufferers yet those may be the people most

likely to react to it. SJ

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could someone please tell me which lab is best for getting tested for EBV,

CMV, and HHV? the hospital sends it to Quest and then it will be covered by

Medicaid, but if i send to another private lab, its out of my pocket,

anyway, i dont know how good Quest Lab is , so any info would be

appreciated, thanks

Radha

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What's more, Ultram takes about an hour to get into your blood stream.

After taking one, about forty-five minutes later I took another one,

and I had a horrible anxiety attack.

Mike

> Ultram was developed for FM. In order to metabolize it one must

have no

> defects in Gene 2D6. See Genelex.com, or just look up Genelex and

go to the

> page that shows other drugs in the same class that can make some

of us very

> sick, such as codeine.

>

> I took one Ultram and I probably would not be here if I had taken

two. I

> vomited for 6 hours, my heart did that funny thing for about 2

hours, my CNS

> was wrecked and to top it all off--I began to hallucinate. We

called the

> hospital and the doctor and they said that it would be out of my

system in

> about 4 hours. I was in bed for three days after taking Ultram. It

should be

> off the market, just like the other " chemicals " that I write about

until my

> fingers fall off. In order to see if you will react to certain sets

of drugs

> one can send in a cheek scraping to Genelex (no $$) and pay about

$150 to

> $200, or you can scan the drug list under Gene 2D6 and see which

drugs in

> that category already make you sick.

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In a message dated 07/06/2004 3:24:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

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> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 22:07:40 EDT

> From: kenhmoulton@...

> Subject: Fwd: mold kills

>

> Can anyone help this person? He is in Florida. Thanks.

>

> Ken Moulton

>

>

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In a message dated 07/06/2004 3:24:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

writes:

> Message: 2

> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 22:07:40 EDT

> From: kenhmoulton@...

> Subject: Fwd: mold kills

>

> Can anyone help this person? He is in Florida. Thanks.

>

> Ken Moulton

>

>

>

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I have found diatamaceous (sp)earth to work well for all small soft bodied

insects..I did the perimeter of my yard and they vanished. I am struggling

with carpenter ants in my house. The local garden center had a nice

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> I have been very successful with Boric Acid.../

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> --- Ken Bagwell <kenancy2000@...> wrote:

>

>> Dumping the carpet isn't much of an option at this

>> point.

>>

>> I've considered grain alcohol, GSE, borax and

>> colloidal silver for use

>> in the carpet cleaning fluid. Not sure if these kill

>> fleas or the eggs.

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>> Any good ideas?

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>> Thanks much,

>> -Ken Bagwell

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