Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 NAC - N-Acetyl Cysteine OSR - ?? ALA - Alpha Lipoic Acid MB12 - Methyl B12 Steph Re: Hair Loss HI Anne, can you please define what the different abbreviations below mean? I would like to understand what is being talked about but have no idea what the letters stand for.Thanks, MicheleNAC, OSR, ALA or MB12> NAC is a glutathione > precursor & promotes detox. ALA apparently promotes detox. MB12 > supports methylation & promotes detox. If you are gaining weight > because your detox pathways are overwhelmed, supplementing with other > I have seen this consideration raised on other alternative health > lists. A person is taking OSR or ALA or NAC & adds iodine or OSR or MB12 or whatever, & suddenly finds himself dealing with detox issues > that he wasn't having before. If you are gaining weight because your > body can't clear out the toxins you are shaking loose, adding NAC, > ALA, or anything else that promotes detox COULD increase the problem. > Anne> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Sherry, I believe it is very individual. However, ALA amounts for chelation usually begin at around 500+/- mg. As for “supplementing” 50 – 100 mg may be recommended. If one has amalgams and believes that any amount of ALA will move mercury around in the body, then there are no “safe” levels. I don’t believe this is true for every person (it hasn’t been for me)….but, obviously I guess for some. Someone on another forum stated that 35 mg caused mercury concerns for them. The amount of mercury that one’s body is able to handle efficiently will be according to the individual. We all have toxic thresholds and yours will likely be different than mine, etc. I have clients (with alamgams) using supplements that contain low levels of ALA and they have presented no concern. By the way, while Ph.D’s and chemists are certainly a wealth of information and knowledge, there is a tendency to be so scientifically-minded at times that any opinion or idea that doesn’t fit into the “scientific box” either doesn’t work, is not proven or is harmful, and is debunked or thrown out the window. Many chemists/Ph.D’s do not see clients and thus what is supposed to work in theory or lab, may not be the case with real people. Where conventional medicine is concerned, science (such as clinical trials, etc.) has not proved to be all that reliable. The reason? We are not clones and everything that we put into our body, on our body, as well as our environment and emotional health has an affect as to how our body will react. Be Well Dr.L -----Original Message----- Dr. L, For someone who still has amalgams in their mouth, what is the maximum amount of ALA they should take on a daily basis? Thank you, Sherry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 OSR is "Oxidative Stress Relief" -- an anti-oxidant which boosts glutathione & is claimed by some (but not the manufacturer) to chelate heavy metals. Which is to say that it increases detox.NAC is a glutathione precursor -- your body uses it to make glutathione, which your body uses to detox.ALA does more than one thing in the body, but one of its actions is chelation/detox.MB12 is a vitamin, is helpful in people whose methylation (detox) pathway is not working correctly, & can start it working. And if you start that pathway working, when it hasn't been, you get a big increase in detox.If you add a different detox method to one already in place, you can get more than double the detox. And it can be too much.AnneOn Jul 6, 2010, at 5:09 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote: NAC - N-Acetyl Cysteine OSR - ?? ALA - Alpha Lipoic Acid MB12 - Methyl B12 Steph Re: Hair Loss HI Anne, can you please define what the different abbreviations below mean? I would like to understand what is being talked about but have no idea what the letters stand for.Thanks, MicheleNAC, OSR, ALA or MB12> NAC is a glutathione > precursor & promotes detox. ALA apparently promotes detox. MB12 > supports methylation & promotes detox. If you are gaining weight > because your detox pathways are overwhelmed, supplementing with other > I have seen this consideration raised on other alternative health > lists. A person is taking OSR or ALA or NAC & adds iodine or OSR or MB12 or whatever, & suddenly finds himself dealing with detox issues > that he wasn't having before. If you are gaining weight because your > body can't clear out the toxins you are shaking loose, adding NAC, > ALA, or anything else that promotes detox COULD increase the problem. > Anne> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 You stated that your hair loss is at the top of your head about the size of a quarter. Have you lost any hair around the temples, too? If so, you may have too much dihydrotestosterone and are exhibiting symptoms similar to male pattern baldness. It does happen to women. Also, you attribute your weight gain to iodine/detox, and it may be so, but you should also consider that since the change in Armour's formulation, Armour perhaps isn't working well for you anymore and you're back in hypo-T. Perhaps you should give Naturethroid or another formulation a try. Ginny > > >I've looked into glutathione, just because I know it's a powerful > > >antioxidant. However, if I recall correctly, my research indicated that > > >it's not beneficial to take it as a supplement because it doesn't absorb > > >well, or something like that. There are some suggestions on things you can > > >do to help create it in your body, and I do several of them. But my > > >understanding is that taking it as a glutathione supplement is not very > > >effective. > > > > > >Do you believe otherwise, Steph? I will try it if you think it could make > > >a difference. > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > > --A.J. Muste > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 How can you find out if your methylation pathway isn’t working? From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Anne SealsSent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:03 AMiodine Subject: Re: Re: Hair Loss OSR is " Oxidative Stress Relief " -- an anti-oxidant which boosts glutathione & is claimed by some (but not the manufacturer) to chelate heavy metals. Which is to say that it increases detox. NAC is a glutathione precursor -- your body uses it to make glutathione, which your body uses to detox. ALA does more than one thing in the body, but one of its actions is chelation/detox. MB12 is a vitamin, is helpful in people whose methylation (detox) pathway is not working correctly, & can start it working. And if you start that pathway working, when it hasn't been, you get a big increase in detox. If you add a different detox method to one already in place, you can get more than double the detox. And it can be too much. Anne On Jul 6, 2010, at 5:09 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote: NAC - N-Acetyl CysteineOSR - ??ALA - Alpha Lipoic AcidMB12 - Methyl B12 Steph Re: Hair Loss HI Anne, can you please define what the different abbreviations below mean? I would like to understand what is being talked about but have no idea what the letters stand for.Thanks, MicheleNAC, OSR, ALA or MB12> NAC is a glutathione > precursor & promotes detox. ALA apparently promotes detox. MB12 > supports methylation & promotes detox. If you are gaining weight > because your detox pathways are overwhelmed, supplementing with other > I have seen this consideration raised on other alternative health > lists. A person is taking OSR or ALA or NAC & adds iodine or OSR or MB12 or whatever, & suddenly finds himself dealing with detox issues > that he wasn't having before. If you are gaining weight because your > body can't clear out the toxins you are shaking loose, adding NAC, > ALA, or anything else that promotes detox COULD increase the problem. > Anne> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 Here is one http://www.holisticheal.com/health-tests/nutrigenomic-testing/comprehensive-methylation-panel-with-methylation-pathway-analysis.html I know there are more but I cannot think of it now. Maybe at Genova or Metametrix. Steph Re: Hair ! Loss< /o> HI Anne, can you please define what the different abbreviations below mean? I would like to understand what is being talked about but have no idea what the letters stand for.Thanks, MicheleNAC, OSR, ALA or MB12> NAC is a glutathione > precursor & promotes detox. ALA apparently promotes detox. MB12 > supports methylation & promotes detox. If you are gaining weight > because your detox pathways are overwhelmed, supplementing with other > I have seen this consideration raised on other alternative health > lists. A person is taking OSR or ALA or NAC & adds iodine or OSR or MB12 or whatever, & suddenly finds himself dealing with detox issues > that he wasn't having before. If you are gaining weight because your > body can't clear out the toxins you are shaking loose, adding NAC, > ALA, or anything else that promotes detox COULD increase the problem. > Anne> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 OH my Goodness that is expensive, have you had this test done yet ? From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbeesSent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:53 PMiodine Subject: Re: Re: Hair Loss Here is one http://www.holisticheal.com/health-tests/nutrigenomic-testing/comprehensive-methylation-panel-with-methylation-pathway-analysis.html I know there are more but I cannot think of it now. Maybe at Genova or Metametrix. Steph Re: Hair ! Loss< /o> HI Anne, can you please define what the different abbreviations below mean? I would like to understand what is being talked about but have no idea what the letters stand for.Thanks, MicheleNAC, OSR, ALA or MB12> NAC is a glutathione > precursor & promotes detox. ALA apparently promotes detox. MB12 > supports methylation & promotes detox. If you are gaining weight > because your detox pathways are overwhelmed, supplementing with other > I have seen this consideration raised on other alternative health > lists. A person is taking OSR or ALA or NAC & adds iodine or OSR or MB12 or whatever, & suddenly finds himself dealing with detox issues > that he wasn't having before. If you are gaining weight because your > body can't clear out the toxins you are shaking loose, adding NAC, > ALA, or anything else that promotes detox COULD increase the problem. > Anne> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 No - I don't intend to either. Steph Re: Hair !! Loss< ; /o> HI Anne, can you please define what the different abbreviations below mean? I would like to understand what is being talked about but have no idea what the letters stand for.Thanks, MicheleNAC, OSR, ALA or MB12> NAC is a glutathione > precursor & promotes detox. ALA apparently promotes detox. MB12 > supports methylation & promotes detox. If you are gaining weight > because your detox pathways are overwhelmed, supplementing with other > I have seen this consideration raised on other alternative health > lists. A person is taking OSR or ALA or NAC & adds iodine or OSR or MB12 or whatever, & suddenly finds himself dealing with detox issues > that he wasn't having before. If you are gaining weight because your > body can't clear out the toxins you are shaking loose, adding NAC, > ALA, or anything else that promotes detox COULD increase the problem. > Anne> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 I was reading that actifolate can also help with methylation are you still taking that? From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbeesSent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:25 PMiodine Subject: Re: Re: Hair Loss No - I don't intend to either. Steph Re: Hair !! Loss< ; /o> HI Anne, can you please define what the different abbreviations below mean? I would like to understand what is being talked about but have no idea what the letters stand for.Thanks, MicheleNAC, OSR, ALA or MB12> NAC is a glutathione > precursor & promotes detox. ALA apparently promotes detox. MB12 > supports methylation & promotes detox. If you are gaining weight > because your detox pathways are overwhelmed, supplementing with other > I have seen this consideration raised on other alternative health > lists. A person is taking OSR or ALA or NAC & adds iodine or OSR or MB12 or whatever, & suddenly finds himself dealing with detox issues > that he wasn't having before. If you are gaining weight because your > body can't clear out the toxins you are shaking loose, adding NAC, > ALA, or anything else that promotes detox COULD increase the problem. > Anne> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 You make an interesting point, Anne...I've never heard it put that way. I always thought that adding all of these things would help the situation, but you could very well be right...Maybe it's too much detox. Thanks for your input. Sherry > > > > > > > > > > NAC - N-Acetyl Cysteine > > OSR - ?? > > ALA - Alpha Lipoic Acid > > MB12 - Methyl B12 > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > Re: Hair Loss > > > > > > HI Anne, can you please define what the different abbreviations below mean? > I would like to understand what is being talked about but have no idea what > the letters stand for. > > Thanks, Michele > > NAC, OSR, ALA or MB12 > > > NAC is a glutathione > > precursor & promotes detox. ALA apparently promotes detox. MB12 > > supports methylation & promotes detox. If you are gaining weight > > because your detox pathways are overwhelmed, supplementing with other > > > I have seen this consideration raised on other alternative health > > lists. A person is taking OSR or ALA or NAC & adds iodine or OSR or MB12 > or whatever, & suddenly finds himself dealing with detox issues > > that he wasn't having before. If you are gaining weight because your > > body can't clear out the toxins you are shaking loose, adding NAC, > > ALA, or anything else that promotes detox COULD increase the problem. > > > Anne > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 Ginny, I think that someone else mentioned having small bald spots. My hair loss is from all over, so it's thin, but no bald spots. As for the Armour issue, I'm actually still taking the old formulation. I have a bunch stockpiled. It may be past it's expiration date (I'm not sure), but I'm definitely still taking the old formulation. Thanks for responding Sherry > > > >I've looked into glutathione, just because I know it's a powerful > > > >antioxidant. However, if I recall correctly, my research indicated that > > > >it's not beneficial to take it as a supplement because it doesn't absorb > > > >well, or something like that. There are some suggestions on things you can > > > >do to help create it in your body, and I do several of them. But my > > > >understanding is that taking it as a glutathione supplement is not very > > > >effective. > > > > > > > >Do you believe otherwise, Steph? I will try it if you think it could make > > > >a difference. > > > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > > > --A.J. Muste > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 That's what I think my problem is. Too much detox. I'm on about 600mg ALA, at least one heaping tbsp of diatomaceous earth/day, 50-100mg of iodine/day and fulvic acid. All detoxers. I've now stopped everything but salt and will slowly add things back in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NAC - N-Acetyl Cysteine > > > > OSR - ?? > > > > ALA - Alpha Lipoic Acid > > > > MB12 - Methyl B12 > > > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Hair Loss > > > > > > > > > > > > HI Anne, can you please define what the different abbreviations below mean? > > I would like to understand what is being talked about but have no idea what > > the letters stand for. > > > > Thanks, Michele > > > > NAC, OSR, ALA or MB12 > > > > > NAC is a glutathione > > > precursor & promotes detox. ALA apparently promotes detox. MB12 > > > supports methylation & promotes detox. If you are gaining weight > > > because your detox pathways are overwhelmed, supplementing with other > > > > > I have seen this consideration raised on other alternative health > > > lists. A person is taking OSR or ALA or NAC & adds iodine or OSR or MB12 > > or whatever, & suddenly finds himself dealing with detox issues > > > that he wasn't having before. If you are gaining weight because your > > > body can't clear out the toxins you are shaking loose, adding NAC, > > > ALA, or anything else that promotes detox COULD increase the problem. > > > > > Anne > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 You can also put it on your scalp. Tammy Hair Loss>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,>>>>>>>> I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. I still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal fatigue after I started iodine earlier this year because felt more relief with it than I ever did with HC. Given it's negative side effects and the good reaction I felt with iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off of HC and did so a few months ago.>>>>>>>> When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hair, which had become frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in quality and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with iodine was that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months of being very depressed about that (more so because I'm single and trying to date, and the weight gain has greatly affected my confidence), I stopped iodine for a few weeks back in May. I started to notice that I was not feeling well at all, so I resumed iodine again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to notice that my hair started falling out more than ever. So much falls out that I'm stunned that I don't have bald spots.>>>>>>>> I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going through a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is causing additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term consequences of this.>>>>>>>> I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been taking what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my dropper calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I use at least 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I usually take all of the companion supplements as well. Also, I just did a "whole body" cleanse (kit by Enzymatic).>>>>>>>> Thank you,>>>> Sherry>>>>>>>> >>> >> ________________________________>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------>> All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/>>> Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 Sherry,What about the hair shampoo you are using? Today Mercola is advertising his, of course. Long time ago I quit commercial soap & shampoo and that removed my hair loss, ---that maybe was not a serious problem, but it was something that I was not happy with. What a difference with homemade soap.From: lookonthebriteside <slehr05@...>To: iodine Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 5:19:44 PMSubject: Re: Hair Loss You make an interesting point, Anne...I've never heard it put that way. I always thought that adding all of these things would help the situation, but you could very well be right...Maybe it's too much detox. Thanks for your input. Sherry > > > > > > > > > > NAC - N-Acetyl Cysteine > > OSR - ?? > > ALA - Alpha Lipoic Acid > > MB12 - Methyl B12 > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > Re: Hair Loss > > > > > > HI Anne, can you please define what the different abbreviations below mean? > I would like to understand what is being talked about but have no idea what > the letters stand for. > > Thanks, Michele > > NAC, OSR, ALA or MB12 > > > NAC is a glutathione > > precursor & promotes detox. ALA apparently promotes detox. MB12 > > supports methylation & promotes detox. If you are gaining weight > > because your detox pathways are overwhelmed, supplementing with other > > > I have seen this consideration raised on other alternative health > > lists. A person is taking OSR or ALA or NAC & adds iodine or OSR or MB12 > or whatever, & suddenly finds himself dealing with detox issues > > that he wasn't having before. If you are gaining weight because your > > body can't clear out the toxins you are shaking loose, adding NAC, > > ALA, or anything else that promotes detox COULD increase the problem. > > > Anne > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Read this and thought the hair loss topic. Glowing, grace~ Restoring Hair Color by - Dr. 's Herb Shop Full head of hair, bright color and silky soft! Many people today seem to have complaints related to their hair. Today it is common for people to ask for advice to restore hair color and encourage hair growth. This is not too surprising in today's world, as stress is considered the biggest factor in hair loss by natural healers, followed by severe malnutrition. Fortunately, it is also common for these to be reversed fairly quickly with natural remedies. It is easy to restore hair color. Dr. had a very successful method of doing that. He used the same simple remedy with many people with great results. One in particular was a man from South America. In South America men do not lose their hair color very often. This particular man was very saddened that his jet black hair had gone white. Dr. advised him to wash his hair with yarrow tea three times a week. Within a few months his hair color was restored. Needless to say he was quite happy! The timeframe is almost always much less than a year, closer to three to six months. The tea is made by pouring 16 oz of boiling water over 1/2 ounce (2 Tablespoons) of the yarrow flowers (not bringing the flowers to a boil) and letting steep until cool, and straining. If you would like to make the tea last longer, you might find it useful to turn it into a vinegar rinse. It will last several weeks this way. If you have never done a pure vinegar rinse before, it is an excellent way to make the hair silky soft. To do so, mix the 16 oz. of yarrow tea with 16 oz. of apple cider vinegar. To use it, rinse the hair with 1-2 cups of the liquid after shampooing, let it soak for 3 minutes or so, then rinse and use conditioner if you have it. This alone has proven so effective with most cases we do little else to restore hair color. Our next newsletter will provide a comprehensive herbal approach for baldness. See you next week! Herbs and formulas available at http://www.drchristophersherbshop.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 What about OKGOrnithine alpha- Ketoglutarate ?> > > >> > > > I have been having issues with losing hair but it is low estrogen & progesterone that I believe are causing my issues. That may be the case for you as well.> > > > > > > > Do you consume good omega 3 fatty acids? That is a problem for me at times too. > > > > > > > > Unfortunately there are a lot of things that when imbalanced cause hair loss. I am still trying to fine tune my body to figure it out too. I used to have very thick hair and now it is not that way. It's frustrating - I understand.> > > > > > > > Steph> > > > > > > > > > > > Hair Loss> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone,> > > > > > > > I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. I still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal fatigue after I started iodine earlier this year because felt more relief with it than I ever did with HC. Given it's negative side effects and the good reaction I felt with iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off of HC and did so a few months ago.> > > > > > > > When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hair, which had become frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in quality and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with iodine was that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months of being very depressed about that (more so because I'm single and trying to date, and the weight gain has greatly affected my confidence), I stopped iodine for a few weeks back in May. I started to notice that I was not feeling well at all, so I resumed iodine again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to notice that my hair started falling out more than ever. So much falls out that I'm stunned that I don't have bald spots.> > > > > > > > I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going through a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is causing additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term consequences of this.> > > > > > > > I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been taking what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my dropper calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I use at least 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I usually take all of the companion supplements as well. Also, I just did a "whole body" cleanse (kit by Enzymatic).> > > > > > > > Thank you,> > > > Sherry> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 I forgot to say I buy OKG in bulkfrom NutraBio.com> > > >> > > > I have been having issues with losing hair but it is low estrogen & progesterone that I believe are causing my issues. That may be the case for you as well.> > > > > > > > Do you consume good omega 3 fatty acids? That is a problem for me at times too. > > > > > > > > Unfortunately there are a lot of things that when imbalanced cause hair loss. I am still trying to fine tune my body to figure it out too. I used to have very thick hair and now it is not that way. It's frustrating - I understand.> > > > > > > > Steph> > > > > > > > > > > > Hair Loss> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone,> > > > > > > > I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. I still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal fatigue after I started iodine earlier this year because felt more relief with it than I ever did with HC. Given it's negative side effects and the good reaction I felt with iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off of HC and did so a few months ago.> > > > > > > > When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hair, which had become frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in quality and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with iodine was that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months of being very depressed about that (more so because I'm single and trying to date, and the weight gain has greatly affected my confidence), I stopped iodine for a few weeks back in May. I started to notice that I was not feeling well at all, so I resumed iodine again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to notice that my hair started falling out more than ever. So much falls out that I'm stunned that I don't have bald spots.> > > > > > > > I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going through a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is causing additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term consequences of this.> > > > > > > > I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been taking what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my dropper calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I use at least 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I usually take all of the companion supplements as well. Also, I just did a "whole body" cleanse (kit by Enzymatic).> > > > > > > > Thank you,> > > > Sherry> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Dr. Bruce Rind says heal the adrenals before working on the thyroid. He has a lot of freeinformation on his site.> > >> > > > > > But assuming it is toxins, what can I do about it? I feel like I've tried everything I've heard that's been recommended.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 I have heard this theory as well...that is why some people feel ill losingweight. The body is very good at waysto protect itself from toxins and encapsulatingit in your fat is one of them. I have alsoheard tell that emotions are packed away into your fat as well and when the fatstarts coming off the emotions come back out. Our bodies are fearfully andwonderfully made. They were not madeto take in all these toxins and chemicals.Another poster added into the conversationabout getting rid of gluten in the diet. I didn't realize how sick it was making me until I went off of it. It might be anotherconsideration for you.> > > >I've looked into glutathione, just because I know it's a powerful> > > >antioxidant. However, if I recall correctly, my research indicated that> > > >it's not beneficial to take it as a supplement because it doesn't absorb> >> > > >well, or something like that. There are some suggestions on things you> > can> > > >do to help create it in your body, and I do several of them. But my> > > >understanding is that taking it as a glutathione supplement is not very> > > >effective.> > > >> > > >Do you believe otherwise, Steph? I will try it if you think it could> > make> > > >a difference.> > >> > >> > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~> > > --A.J. Muste> > >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Also read up on MSM...it's good for your skinand hair. Also, considering goingno poo or severely cutting downon shampooing. I only use Masterscreme rinse on my hair every day andshampoo very rarely. Most Americansshampoo way too much and it's a viciouscycle... shampoo strips the hair of itsnatural oils and you have to creme rinseto replace it.>> Read this and thought the hair loss topic. > > Glowing, > > grace~> > > > Restoring Hair Color> by - Dr. 's Herb Shop> > > Full head of hair, bright color and silky soft!> > Many people today seem to have complaints related to their hair. Today it > is common for people to ask for advice to restore hair color and encourage > hair growth. This is not too surprising in today's world, as stress is > considered the biggest factor in hair loss by natural healers, followed by > severe malnutrition. Fortunately, it is also common for these to be reversed > fairly quickly with natural remedies. > It is easy to restore hair color. Dr. had a very successful > method of doing that. He used the same simple remedy with many people with > great results. One in particular was a man from South America. In South > America men do not lose their hair color very often. This particular man was > very saddened that his jet black hair had gone white. > Dr. advised him to wash his hair with yarrow tea three times a > week. Within a few months his hair color was restored. Needless to say he > was quite happy! > The timeframe is almost always much less than a year, closer to three to > six months. The tea is made by pouring 16 oz of boiling water over 1/2 ounce > (2 Tablespoons) of the yarrow flowers (not bringing the flowers to a boil) > and letting steep until cool, and straining. > If you would like to make the tea last longer, you might find it useful to > turn it into a vinegar rinse. It will last several weeks this way. If you > have never done a pure vinegar rinse before, it is an excellent way to make > the hair silky soft. To do so, mix the 16 oz. of yarrow tea with 16 oz. of > apple cider vinegar. To use it, rinse the hair with 1-2 cups of the liquid > after shampooing, let it soak for 3 minutes or so, then rinse and use > conditioner if you have it. > This alone has proven so effective with most cases we do little else to > restore hair color. > Our next newsletter will provide a comprehensive herbal approach for > baldness. See you next week!> > Herbs and formulas available at _http://www.drchristophersherbshop.com/_ > (http://www.drchristophersherbshop.com/)> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Low ferritin level sometimes indicate not so much a concern with actual iron levels, rather the iron-binding properties which help absorbtion or utilization of iron. If so, lactoferrin may be helpful (Symbiotics, Jarrow, NOW are some brands). Also, Vitamin C taken with iron or foods containing iron can aid iron absorbtion. These are just my understandings. > > > > > > > > > > I have been having issues with losing hair but it is low estrogen & > > > > progesterone that I believe are causing my issues. That may be the case for > > > > you as well. > > > > > > > > > > Do you consume good omega 3 fatty acids? That is a problem for me at > > > > times too. > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately there are a lot of things that when imbalanced cause hair > > > > loss. I am still trying to fine tune my body to figure it out too. I used to > > > > have very thick hair and now it is not that way. It's frustrating - I > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hair Loss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several > > > > years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. I > > > > still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal > > > > fatigue after I started iodine earlier this year because felt more relief > > > > with it than I ever did with HC. Given it's negative side effects and the > > > > good reaction I felt with iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off > > > > of HC and did so a few months ago. > > > > > > > > > > When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hair, which had become > > > > frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in quality > > > > and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with iodine was > > > > that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months of being very > > > > depressed about that (more so because I'm single and trying to date, and the > > > > weight gain has greatly affected my confidence), I stopped iodine for a few > > > > weeks back in May. I started to notice that I was not feeling well at all, > > > > so I resumed iodine again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to > > > > notice that my hair started falling out more than ever. So much falls out > > > > that I'm stunned that I don't have bald spots. > > > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going through > > > > a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is causing > > > > additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term consequences > > > > of this. > > > > > > > > > > I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and > > > > don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been taking > > > > what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my dropper > > > > calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I use at least > > > > 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I usually take all of > > > > the companion supplements as well. Also, I just did a " whole body " cleanse > > > > (kit by Enzymatic). > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > Sherry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Hello Tigi - and welcome to our forum where I hope you get all the help and support you need. What WERE the results of your antibody test - did they not give you the actual figure. Ask them to give this to you as doctors cannot withhold test results from their patients. The FULL thyroid function test consists of TSH, free T4, free T3 and Thyroid peroxidase antibody (TPOAb)+ Thyroglobulin antibody (TgAb). I don't understand why a reception would tell a patient that " no treatment was required " if her antibody tests showed 'normal' if that patient is already taking levothyroxine. Your free T4 is very high and this could be because it is not converting to the active thyroid hormone T3 - this is why you need to test your free T3 level. The Genova 24 hour urine test is best for this because it shows the actual amount of thyroid hormone that your body has used - which the blood test does not show. You need to ask your GP to test the following to see if any of them are low in the range: ferritin (stored iron), vitamin b12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc. If any of these are low in the reference interval, no amount of thyroid hormone can get into the cells - and this might account for your high fT4, hair loss and fatigue. Once you get these results, post them here together with the reference range for each. Also, you should do the Adrenal Questionnaire (look in our Files section of this forum under Adrenals) and scroll through the files there. Let us know how you scored. You might need to do the 24 hour salivary adrenal profile to see where your cortisol and DHEA levels lie at four specific times during the day. If you are suffering with low adrenal reserve, again, your thyroid hormone cannot be properly absorbed. This is the same if you are suffering with systemic candidiasis. Check 'Associated Conditions' in our web site under 'Hypothyroidism' and learn about these. Luv - Sheila To cut a long story short I phoned my surgery today to enquire if my Thyroid Anti Body Test had come back (Doctor ordered this before a referral to a Specialist. My other results had been TSH 0.42 (0.35 - 5.5) and T4 20.7 (9 - 24). I believe these are quite good but to be honest since I have had my Thyroxine raised back to 125mcg's from 100 the only thing that I have got rid of is the dizzy spells. I have always felt fatigued, very pale complexion, scaly skin, occasional tugging feeling at the right side of my neck, palpataions sometimes, joint pain, stiff fingers, fuzzy eyesight sometimes, no vavavoom and the dreaded hair shedding/thining which is getting worse. BUT my weight doesn't vary that much thankfully. Sometimes I beef up a little but medication seems to change it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Hi tigi, So you got TSH and FT4- which on the surface looks good, but you haven't got the vital FT3 As you are so symptomatic still This is probably low- if you can't convert the inert T4 into T3 then no amount will get you well. you need to write to you doc and ask for a referral to and endo- in the letter list all your symptoms( see list in files so you don't misss anything) before getting out of bed temps- probably low) ask for ferritin, zinc selenium D3 and B12 to be tested as if any are low it compromises thyroid hormone absorption. ask for the letter to be kept on file and cc head of practice. > thyroid treatment > From: ginasf@...> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:48:53 +0000> Subject: HAIR LOSS> > To cut a long story short I phoned my surgery today to enquire if my Thyroid Anti Body Test had come back (Doctor ordered this before a referral to a Specialist. My other results had been TSH 0.42 (0.35 - 5.5) and T4 20.7 (9 - 24). I believe these are quite good but to be honest since I have had my Thyroxine raised back to 125mcg's from 100 the only thing that I have got rid of is the dizzy spells. I have always felt fatigued, very pale complexion, scaly skin, occasional tugging feeling at the right side of my neck, palpataions sometimes, joint pain, stiff fingers, fuzzy eyesight sometimes, no vavavoom and the dreaded hair shedding/thining which is getting worse. BUT my weight doesn't vary that much thankfully. Sometimes I beef up a little but medication seems to change it back.> > > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 I started for the fist time 3 weeks ago I take niacin every eve and no hair loss yet. I hope it does not happen. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Hair Loss Heard bad stories about significant hair loss on protocol. New to site. Please advise. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 How is your weight loss? Do you feel ok? I have also heard that you should take 5000 mg of biotin and also pour burdock tea on your scalp and leave it there. From: "mmreno1@..." <mmreno1@...> Sent: Thu, September 23, 2010 6:35:02 PMSubject: Re: Hair Loss I started for the fist time 3 weeks ago I take niacin every eve and no hair loss yet. I hope it does not happen.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry-----Original Message-----From: "bigred516" <bigred516@...>Sender: Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:09:51 < >Reply- Subject: Hair LossHeard bad stories about significant hair loss on protocol. New to site. Please advise.------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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