Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 So very very true! Is this normal? > > > > > > > > > > As many of you know, I've had a really tough time finding > > > someone who > > > > > knows what they are doing with OCD, who will treat kids. > > > > > > > > > > I finally found someone over 2 hours from our home, but she > > > charges > > > > > $200 a hour and doesn't take any insurance at all. She also > > > informed > > > > > me she doesn't take checks or credit cards. I'm sort of stunned > > > > > because I don't know where we are going to come up with that > > > kind of > > > > > money. I called our insurance and they offer out of network > > > coverage, > > > > > but the amount they will cover is ridiculously small (all the > > > > > reasonable and customary stuff) after a huge deductible (over a > > > > > thousand). I've never wished to be rich until now. > > > > > > > > > > On top of all that, she won't be able to get him in for 3-4 > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > Have you all been running into therapists who charge so much, want > > > > > cash, and won't take insurance at all? Truly, is this normal? > > > > > Because if it is. . . WOW! > > > > > > > > > > BJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's > > > > > free from AOL at AOL.com. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 <<I'm sorry about your heart problems. I hope someone can help you. >> Thanks, . I don't think that is possible though. I have heart damage that has caused electrical problems with my heart after taking Imitrex for migraines. At the same time, I had a mild stroke. I've been to multiple cardiologists. The worst is when it gets into ventricular arrhythmias, because then I feel like I'm going to pass out. I don't like to drive Josh too far out of town because of it. So, hubby is going to have to take time off of work to get us to therapy appointments, when we find someone. I think becoming a counselor for OCD is a great idea. I can't imagine anyone understanding what it's like more than someone who has lived it first hand. It would be great to be able to pass on the things you've learned too. ) BJ > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sorry, BJ, that you are having such a hard time finding a > > > > > > therapist. > > > > > > > > > > > > I must say, $200/hour is NOT normal. We live in the Boston > area, a > > > > > > very high-priced place and therapists range from $125 to $175. I > > > > > > did talk to one who was more, but that was just for the initial > > > > > > intake evaluation. > > > > > > > > > > > > They all take checks. Most do not take credit cards. I smell a > > > > fish > > > > > > with this one. I would find out her credentials, i.e, where she > > > > > > trained, how much experience she has, etc., and actually ask her > > > > > > why she charges such a high fee. Also check her license. > Make sure > > > > > > she is really licensed and on the list the insurance company > will > > > > > > cover out of network. > > > > > > > > > > > > Imogene > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this normal? > > > > > > > > > > > > As many of you know, I've had a really tough time finding > > > > someone who > > > > > > knows what they are doing with OCD, who will treat kids. > > > > > > > > > > > > I finally found someone over 2 hours from our home, but she > > > > charges > > > > > > $200 a hour and doesn't take any insurance at all. She also > > > > informed > > > > > > me she doesn't take checks or credit cards. I'm sort of stunned > > > > > > because I don't know where we are going to come up with that > > > > kind of > > > > > > money. I called our insurance and they offer out of network > > > > coverage, > > > > > > but the amount they will cover is ridiculously small (all the > > > > > > reasonable and customary stuff) after a huge deductible (over a > > > > > > thousand). I've never wished to be rich until now. > > > > > > > > > > > > On top of all that, she won't be able to get him in for 3-4 > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you all been running into therapists who charge so > much, want > > > > > > cash, and won't take insurance at all? Truly, is this normal? > > > > > > Because if it is. . . WOW! > > > > > > > > > > > > BJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > > > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about > what's > > > > > > free from AOL at AOL.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 That seems weird to me too. No insurance, cash only....I don't know if I've ever met any health care provider that does that. Laurie jtlt@... wrote: In a message dated 4/9/2007 4:11:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, BJClosner@... writes: I finally found someone over 2 hours from our home, but she charges $200 a hour and doesn't take any insurance at all. She also informed me she doesn't take checks or credit cards. BJ Honestly, I haven't been reading many posts the last few days - too much going on & it just seems to depress me lately. But, I did catch yours. Hmmmm... I must say, the whole situation stinks like yesterday's diapers. I would RUN not walk in the opposite direction. A medical professional that only accepts cash? Something ain't right there. LT ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Thyroglobulin levels are increased as you become more iodine deficient. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8031964 Thyroglobulin is a more sensitive indicator of iodine deficiency than thyrotropin: development and evaluation of dry blood spot assays for thyrotropin and thyroglobulin in iodine-deficient geographical areas. Missler U, Gutekunst R, Wood WG. is this normal? > OK...I'm getting ready to start iodine to reduce my (benign) thyroid > nodules. I got my lab results : > > tsh: .3 (.46-3.59) > Free Thyroxine: 1.3 (.08-2.00) > Free T3 304 (180-420) > Thyroglobulin: 141.00 (0-55) > anti-thyrogl: <20 (<40) > > does anyone know why my thyroglobulin shows so high but they still put > it in the 'normal' range instead of out of range??? im confused. > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 I was curious how large your nodules is? Do you have any cyst or pain in your neck with these? On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:19 PM, lindasala2001 <linda.arnao@...> wrote: OK...I'm getting ready to start iodine to reduce my (benign) thyroid nodules. I got my lab results :tsh: .3 (.46-3.59)Free Thyroxine: 1.3 (.08-2.00)Free T3 304 (180-420)Thyroglobulin: 141.00 (0-55) anti-thyrogl: <20 (<40)does anyone know why my thyroglobulin shows so high but they still put it in the 'normal' range instead of out of range??? im confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Hi! I am in MN and switched to raw last week, so good comparison - I did not see any big changes, I think part of what might be going on is the nights are cooler, so my kefir has not really been separating - I try to keep my grains down to an amount where I have a thick, almost gelatinous product at the end, but try to avoid separation - I got it anyway when it was hot, but have not for a few weeks now, in either milk. I was using whole before, when I switched from 2% to whole I noticed less separation too, and raw is whole. There might be a slight yeasty smell, that has seemed to vary with mine in general. Is yours thick? It might be pretty tart after 48 hours, I would stir it, and if it is thickened, give it a taste, but I would not leave it any longer, that is not good for the grains - at least change the milk. I use about 1 TBSP of grains for each cup of milk. Beth in MN > > I have been making kefir for a couple months now and just found a source for raw milk. When I was using commercial milk, (we can't buy raw milk commercially in WI), the kefir would seperate after 24 hrs in a 70's degree kitchen. My first batch of raw milk kefir is now on my counter. After 48 hours my raw milk kefir has not seperated and the grains and kefir at the top are slightly yellow and slightly yeasty smelling. Is this normal? I have not tasted it yet. > > Deb in WI > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Hi Ben, Everyone is different, if it were me and I was feeling fine at 50mg, I would go up a bit, stay there a week, see how I feel and work my way up to the dose where you want to be. That is what I did in the beginning; I now am at 100mg daily. I found experimenting was the best way for me. Kathleen Is this Normal? Hey Guys,So I have been on 50mg pills of Idoral for a week. I take the needed supplements minus the vitamin c. I haven't notice any changes, detox feeling, increased energy anything. It may be premature or perhaps my dose is too low. Should I increase to 100mg? 200mg? or wait an see more. Is a week long enough to notice change? I am taking this for cancer, and I know people use up to 200mg per day. But is this something to build up to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Most of the cancer patients try to get to the higher doses quickly. Some do not get detox symptoms until they get to 100 mgs or more. Linn > > Hey Guys, > So I have been on 50mg pills of Idoral for a week. I take the needed supplements minus the vitamin c. I haven't notice any changes, detox feeling, increased energy anything. It may be premature or perhaps my dose is too low. Should I increase to 100mg? 200mg? or wait an see more. Is a week long enough to notice change? I am taking this for cancer, and I know people use up to 200mg per day. But is this something to build up to? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Cool guys thanks for the info. I kinda thought that would be the response but I thought I would double check with the experts. I think I will finish this week at 50 and by saturday bump it up to 100, then 150 then 200. Ill probably hold off at 200 for a while, symptoms or no. > > Hey Guys, > So I have been on 50mg pills of Idoral for a week. I take the needed supplements minus the vitamin c. I haven't notice any changes, detox feeling, increased energy anything. It may be premature or perhaps my dose is too low. Should I increase to 100mg? 200mg? or wait an see more. Is a week long enough to notice change? I am taking this for cancer, and I know people use up to 200mg per day. But is this something to build up to? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 have you taken the load test and have urine tested to see if you are deficient or not? big al -- " The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the greatest liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth. " -- H.L. Mencken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Ben - What type of cancer? I started on 50mg in morning, and 50mg at 3pm but it gave me insomnia. Laurel > > Hey Guys, > So I have been on 50mg pills of Idoral for a week. I take the needed supplements minus the vitamin c. I haven't notice any changes, detox feeling, increased energy anything. It may be premature or perhaps my dose is too low. Should I increase to 100mg? 200mg? or wait an see more. Is a week long enough to notice change? I am taking this for cancer, and I know people use up to 200mg per day. But is this something to build up to? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Maybe you have enough iodine and do not need to increase have you done a load test first to see where you are? Big Al On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:25:54 -0400, Ben Roche <ben_roche1@...> wrote: > Cool guys thanks for the info. I kinda thought that would be the > response but I thought I would double check with the experts. I think I > will finish this week at 50 and by saturday bump it up to 100, then 150 > then 200. Ill probably hold off at 200 for a while, symptoms or no. > > >> >> Hey Guys, >> So I have been on 50mg pills of Idoral for a week. I take the needed >> supplements minus the vitamin c. I haven't notice any changes, detox >> feeling, increased energy anything. It may be premature or perhaps my >> dose is too low. Should I increase to 100mg? 200mg? or wait an see >> more. Is a week long enough to notice change? I am taking this for >> cancer, and I know people use up to 200mg per day. But is this >> something to build up to? >> > > -- " The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the greatest liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth. " -- H.L. Mencken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 colorectal stage 4 with mets to bone and liver, possible other places. I was holding off on another scan because they are said to be really bad for you. The prog is not very good.From: pythonesk <pythonesk@...>iodine Sent: Wed, June 8, 2011 6:34:48 AMSubject: Re: Is this Normal? Ben - What type of cancer? I started on 50mg in morning, and 50mg at 3pm but it gave me insomnia. Laurel > > Hey Guys, > So I have been on 50mg pills of Idoral for a week. I take the needed supplements minus the vitamin c. I haven't notice any changes, detox feeling, increased energy anything. It may be premature or perhaps my dose is too low. Should I increase to 100mg? 200mg? or wait an see more. Is a week long enough to notice change? I am taking this for cancer, and I know people use up to 200mg per day. But is this something to build up to? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 A lot of the folks on this list haven't bothered with the test, & just go by how they feel. Absence of detox symptoms can also mean that you are doing a really good job keeping all the detox pathways open. This might become more of a problem as you increase the dose. Anne On Jun 8, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Big Al wrote: > Maybe you have enough iodine and do not need to increase have > you done a load test first to see where you are? > Big Al > > > On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:25:54 -0400, Ben Roche <ben_roche1@...> wrote: > >> Cool guys thanks for the info. I kinda thought that would be the >> response but I thought I would double check with the experts. I think I >> will finish this week at 50 and by saturday bump it up to 100, then 150 >> then 200. Ill probably hold off at 200 for a while, symptoms or no. >> >> >>> >>> Hey Guys, >>> So I have been on 50mg pills of Idoral for a week. I take the needed >>> supplements minus the vitamin c. I haven't notice any changes, detox >>> feeling, increased energy anything. It may be premature or perhaps my >>> dose is too low. Should I increase to 100mg? 200mg? or wait an see >>> more. Is a week long enough to notice change? I am taking this for >>> cancer, and I know people use up to 200mg per day. But is this >>> something to build up to? >>> >> >> > > > -- > " The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the greatest > liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them > the truth. " -- H.L. Mencken > > > ------------------------------------ > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/ > > > The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%\ 20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Most people on the list don't take any iodine after 2, because it causes sleep issues. Most of us are taking a single dose, early in the day.AnneOn Jun 8, 2011, at 6:34 AM, pythonesk wrote: Ben - What type of cancer? I started on 50mg in morning, and 50mg at 3pm but it gave me insomnia. Laurel > > Hey Guys, > So I have been on 50mg pills of Idoral for a week. I take the needed supplements minus the vitamin c. I haven't notice any changes, detox feeling, increased energy anything. It may be premature or perhaps my dose is too low. Should I increase to 100mg? 200mg? or wait an see more. Is a week long enough to notice change? I am taking this for cancer, and I know people use up to 200mg per day. But is this something to build up to? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011  Ben did you contact at www.chrisbeatcancer.com ? I know I sent you the link privately. He beat cancer with food. Buist, ND Re: Is this Normal? Ben - What type of cancer? I started on 50mg in morning, and 50mg at 3pm but it gave me insomnia. Laurel>> Hey Guys,> So I have been on 50mg pills of Idoral for a week. I take the needed supplements minus the vitamin c. I haven't notice any changes, detox feeling, increased energy anything. It may be premature or perhaps my dose is too low. Should I increase to 100mg? 200mg? or wait an see more. Is a week long enough to notice change? I am taking this for cancer, and I know people use up to 200mg per day. But is this something to build up to?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 When you are talking advanced cancer, I would definitely do more than one thing. I would make home-made lipsomal vitamin C, & gradually work up to the highest dose I could tolerate. (The liposomal stuff doesn't affect the bowels, but with home-made, you are only getting 50-70% liposomal, & the unliposomal portion can affect the bowels. If you have deep pockets, 6 doses a day or more of commercial liposomal C would be good.) I would clean up my diet, do cleanses of various types, etc.One big danger with advanced cancer is killing off too many cancer cells at once -- which can clog up the liver. So you need to build up gradually with anything like LC, & you need to take really good care of your liver.Are you still receiving standard treatment -- chemo? Radiation? That will affect, to some degree, the kind of alternative things you can do.AnneOn Jun 8, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Ben Roche wrote: colorectal stage 4 with mets to bone and liver, possible other places. I was holding off on another scan because they are said to be really bad for you. The prog is not very good.From: pythonesk <pythonesk@...>iodine Sent: Wed, June 8, 2011 6:34:48 AMSubject: Re: Is this Normal? Ben - What type of cancer? I started on 50mg in morning, and 50mg at 3pm but it gave me insomnia. Laurel > > Hey Guys, > So I have been on 50mg pills of Idoral for a week. I take the needed supplements minus the vitamin c. I haven't notice any changes, detox feeling, increased energy anything. It may be premature or perhaps my dose is too low. Should I increase to 100mg? 200mg? or wait an see more. Is a week long enough to notice change? I am taking this for cancer, and I know people use up to 200mg per day. But is this something to build up to? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Hi Laurel,Since Iodoral helps your energy, it is recommended that you take it early in the day. 3 pm is probably the reason you are suffering from insomnia. Try moving it up to no later than noon, or take it all at one time in the morning. We don’t always take our supplements at breakfast, just because I forget and get busy, but if we haven’t taken them by 2pm, I leave out the iodine and we only take the rest for that day. Donna in IL Ben - What type of cancer? I started on 50mg in morning, and 50mg at 3pm but it gave me insomnia. Laurel>> Hey Guys,> So I have been on 50mg pills of Idoral for a week. I take the needed supplements minus the vitamin c. I haven't notice any changes, detox feeling, increased energy anything. It may be premature or perhaps my dose is too low. Should I increase to 100mg? 200mg? or wait an see more. Is a week long enough to notice change? I am taking this for cancer, and I know people use up to 200mg per day. But is this something to build up to?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 I actually have not. I just assumed because I have not felt any bad detox feelings I needed more. How do you do a load test? I think I read over it a bit in the intro documents but I cant remember seeing exactly how it is done and what to look for in terms of results.Please let me know,BenFrom: Big Al <bigal123@...>iodine Sent: Wed, June 8, 2011 6:48:14 AMSubject: Re: Re: Is this Normal? Maybe you have enough iodine and do not need to increase have you done a load test first to see where you are? Big AlOn Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:25:54 -0400, Ben Roche <ben_roche1@...> wrote:> Cool guys thanks for the info. I kinda thought that would be the > response but I thought I would double check with the experts. I think I > will finish this week at 50 and by saturday bump it up to 100, then 150 > then 200. Ill probably hold off at 200 for a while, symptoms or no.>> >>>> Hey Guys,>> So I have been on 50mg pills of Idoral for a week. I take the needed >> supplements minus the vitamin c. I haven't notice any changes, detox >> feeling, increased energy anything. It may be premature or perhaps my >> dose is too low. Should I increase to 100mg? 200mg? or wait an see >> more. Is a week long enough to notice change? I am taking this for >> cancer, and I know people use up to 200mg per day. But is this >> something to build up to?>>>>-- "The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the greatest liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth." -- H.L. Mencken------------------------------------All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Ben, Most of us have not done the loading test . I have been using Lugols/Iodoral for over 25 years, never did the test because I realize most people are deficient in iodine and are daily bombarded with heavy toxins/halides. Especially if one is fighting cancer, iodine is needed. Information is in the files about the loading test, but again, many don't find it necessary. Best, Kathleen Re: Re: Is this Normal? Maybe you have enough iodine and do not need to increase have you done a load test first to see where you are? Big AlOn Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:25:54 -0400, Ben Roche <ben_roche1@...> wrote:> Cool guys thanks for the info. I kinda thought that would be the > response but I thought I would double check with the experts. I think I > will finish this week at 50 and by saturday bump it up to 100, then 150 > then 200. Ill probably hold off at 200 for a while, symptoms or no.>> >>>> Hey Guys,>> So I have been on 50mg pills of Idoral for a week. I take the needed >> supplements minus the vitamin c. I haven't notice any changes, detox >> feeling, increased energy anything. It may be premature or perhaps my >> dose is too low. Should I increase to 100mg? 200mg? or wait an see >> more. Is a week long enough to notice change? I am taking this for >> cancer, and I know people use up to 200mg per day. But is this >> something to build up to?>>>>-- "The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the greatest liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth." -- H.L. Mencken------------------------------------All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Ben,You only feel detox symptoms if your detox pathways cannot move it out fast enough. You don’t need to experience them, but it can be an indication that you actually are detoxing. Donna in IL Ben, Most of us have not done the loading test . I have been using Lugols/Iodoral for over 25 years, never did the test because I realize most people are deficient in iodine and are daily bombarded with heavy toxins/halides. Especially if one is fighting cancer, iodine is needed. Information is in the files about the loading test, but again, many don't find it necessary. Best, Kathleen Re: Re: Is this Normal? Maybe you have enough iodine and do not need to increase have you done a load test first to see where you are? Big AlOn Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:25:54 -0400, Ben Roche <ben_roche1@...> wrote:> Cool guys thanks for the info. I kinda thought that would be the > response but I thought I would double check with the experts. I think I > will finish this week at 50 and by saturday bump it up to 100, then 150 > then 200. Ill probably hold off at 200 for a while, symptoms or no.>> >>>> Hey Guys,>> So I have been on 50mg pills of Idoral for a week. I take the needed >> supplements minus the vitamin c. I haven't notice any changes, detox >> feeling, increased energy anything. It may be premature or perhaps my >> dose is too low. Should I increase to 100mg? 200mg? or wait an see >> more. Is a week long enough to notice change? I am taking this for >> cancer, and I know people use up to 200mg per day. But is this >> something to build up to?>>>>-- " The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the greatest liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth. " -- H.L. Mencken------------------------------------All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 I'm taking 4 mg of iodine via Lugol's and have come down with severe flu like symptoms 3 separate times since starting iodine a month ago. One episode left me sick for 2 weeks, l lost my voice, horrible coughing, etc. It was actually worse than the flu. Compared to others here, my symptoms seem wildly disproportionate with my intake...I take 1/2 a teaspoon of salt, 200mg of selenium, 150 mg of magnesium and 2000mg of Vitamin C with each dose. Why isn't my body handling the detox properly? I feel another episode of the symptoms coming on as I write thisRickFrom: Donna Iler <Donna@...>"iodine " <iodine >Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 5:14:45 PMSubject: RE: Re: Is this Normal? Ben,You only feel detox symptoms if your detox pathways cannot move it out fast enough. You don’t need to experience them, but it can be an indication that you actually are detoxing. Donna in IL Ben, Most of us have not done the loading test . I have been using Lugols/Iodoral for over 25 years, never did the test because I realize most people are deficient in iodine and are daily bombarded with heavy toxins/halides. Especially if one is fighting cancer, iodine is needed. Information is in the files about the loading test, but again, many don't find it necessary. Best, Kathleen Re: Re: Is this Normal? Maybe you have enough iodine and do not need to increase have you done a load test first to see where you are? Big AlOn Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:25:54 -0400, Ben Roche <ben_roche1@...> wrote:> Cool guys thanks for the info. I kinda thought that would be the > response but I thought I would double check with the experts. I think I > will finish this week at 50 and by saturday bump it up to 100, then 150 > then 200. Ill probably hold off at 200 for a while, symptoms or no.>> >>>> Hey Guys,>> So I have been on 50mg pills of Idoral for a week. I take the needed >> supplements minus the vitamin c. I haven't notice any changes, detox >> feeling, increased energy anything. It may be premature or perhaps my >> dose is too low. Should I increase to 100mg? 200mg? or wait an see >> more. Is a week long enough to notice change? I am taking this for >> cancer, and I know people use up to 200mg per day. But is this >> something to build up to?>>>>-- "The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the greatest liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth." -- H.L. Mencken------------------------------------All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Ok it is mandated before any test in the lab to be a base line to start from Take 50 mg iodine or the iodoral tabs At night. Get up and the first void discard, from then on pee in the container the lab gave you for 24 hrs. Take it back to the lab and they will test for iodine. If you are good it will show 45 mg of iodine you excreted. Meaning you are NOT deficient in iodine. So take 12.5 mg tablet to keep maintenance level. If the results come back 30 percent you are deficient and need more iodine. So this is where you adjust the dosage and check again in 30 days. I also took a bromine test also. If that is high you need more iodine till the test comes back 0 iodine. get the bromine out? Use sea salt, as Na is a halide that displaces bromine. Then the iodine you take will replace the na. DO NOT USE ORDINARY TABLE SALT. Big Al -- " The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the greatest liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth. " -- H.L. Mencken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011  Rick, sorry to hear you are not detoxing well. You need to do a salt loading...have you tried that? Directions for the salt loading are in the FILES under Commonly Asked Questions. Please read and try this. Best, Kathleen Re: Re: Is this Normal? Maybe you have enough iodine and do not need to increase have you done a load test first to see where you are? Big AlOn Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:25:54 -0400, Ben Roche <ben_roche1@...> wrote:> Cool guys thanks for the info. I kinda thought that would be the > response but I thought I would double check with the experts. I think I > will finish this week at 50 and by saturday bump it up to 100, then 150 > then 200. Ill probably hold off at 200 for a while, symptoms or no.>> >>>> Hey Guys,>> So I have been on 50mg pills of Idoral for a week. I take the needed >> supplements minus the vitamin c. I haven't notice any changes, detox >> feeling, increased energy anything. It may be premature or perhaps my >> dose is too low. Should I increase to 100mg? 200mg? or wait an see >> more. Is a week long enough to notice change? I am taking this for >> cancer, and I know people use up to 200mg per day. But is this >> something to build up to?>>>>-- "The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the greatest liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth." -- H.L. Mencken------------------------------------All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 What kinds of sleep issues? I used to take it in the morning but a friend said it help him sleep so I switched to right before bed. I take about 50mg and haven't noticed any sleep issues. > > > > > > Hey Guys, > > > So I have been on 50mg pills of Idoral for a week. I take the needed supplements minus the vitamin c. I haven't notice any changes, detox feeling, increased energy anything. It may be premature or perhaps my dose is too low. Should I increase to 100mg? 200mg? or wait an see more. Is a week long enough to notice change? I am taking this for cancer, and I know people use up to 200mg per day. But is this something to build up to? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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