Poor rule follower

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I need some other opinions. I got the band May 23rd. I am still on

full liquids. I occasionally will like have a severe hiccup. Nothing

comes up . Would that be considered PB'ing? I ate something not on my

list (I know how horrible I am)and felt lots of discomfort, and went

to bed. When I woke up the next morning my throat was real scratchy

and now I am coughing up green stuff. No real nasal drainage like a

bad cold or sinus infection. I also take a sleeping pill. Could I have

PB'd and not known it and then aspirated? I am very ashamed to write

that I have cheated some but am looking for another opinion beside my

own. I have the feeling that no one else that writes on the group has

ever cheated. May not be true but I still feel like a failure at this

point. Thanks for any thoughts you can give me.

Tonja

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Hi Tonja,Well pick yourself back up and make today a better day A big hiccup is not a PB, only when stuff comes out is it a PB. Usually a hiccup means your body is saying STOPPPP! No more food You will start to learn what your body is saying to you when you get to where you can eat solids and after a fill. For some reason it is very normal to have more mucus after being banded and especially right in the morning. I don't know if that stuff just used to go down in our stomachs at night and now because of the band, it comes out instead of down??? Sorry for that visual! If you are worried that you aspirated you should call Dr. A's office right away. I don't know if that is possible to sleep through that or not??? As I mentioned

earlier this week, I can "sleep" and eating ice cream and strawberry pie. LOL I can't say that I have never cheated on my band, but I can't stress enough the importance of following the post op diet to the letter. Stop beating yourself up and commit to yourself that you didn't spend all this money to sabotage your success. No more cheating, if you need to eat something that isn't on your list right now, call someone, drink some water, get busy doing something other than eating and thinking about what you can't eat. This is such short time to give up good food, it won't be forever, I promise, it feels like it, but it won't. You are not a failure but you are a food addict, that is what got us all to this point.Send me a private message and let me know if you would like my phone number. Take care, Cyrena Poor rule followerI need some other opinions. I got the band May 23rd. I am still on

full liquids. I occasionally will like have a severe hiccup. Nothing

comes up . Would that be considered PB'ing? I ate something not on my

list (I know how horrible I am)and felt lots of discomfort, and went

to bed. When I woke up the next morning my throat was real scratchy

and now I am coughing up green stuff. No real nasal drainage like a

bad cold or sinus infection. I also take a sleeping pill. Could I have

PB'd and not known it and then aspirated? I am very ashamed to write

that I have cheated some but am looking for another opinion beside my

own. I have the feeling that no one else that writes on the group has

ever cheated. May not be true but I still feel like a failure at this

point. Thanks for any thoughts you can give me.

Tonja

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Tonja,

Please! Haven't cheated????? I think the real response would be that there probably isn't a single person on this board who HASN'T cheated!!!! Don't think any of us are that different from you! Several years ago I wrote on here about a particular incident involving Oreos. 6 of them, to be exact. I was hugging the toilet ALL afternoon pbing on damn Oreos. However, I couldn't resist them....I ate a few more that night just to make sure I couldn't eat them! Well, here I am 2 years out of surgery and I can handle 2 Oreos MAX! Haven't cheated???? HA! We have ALL been there! Don't be so hard on yourself.

Now, I don't really know what is going on with your description but if I were in your shoes, I would go back on clear liquids for a couple of days, give my stoma a break, and see what happens. Chances are that you have just irritated things and your esophagus just needs a rest. It may not help but it certainly won't hurt.

Above all, do NOT feel like a failure! No one fails with the band. Sure, there will be times when we make poor decisions all along the way. There will be times when we try to ignore the fact that we have a band and try to eat as if we don't. There will be times when we allow our head hunger and appetite take control even though we know we shouldn't. But, there will also be times when we will really see and understand the benefit of making good choices. There will be times, the first time for many of us, that we will be able to feel how good nutrition makes our bodies feel as opposed to poor nutrition. There will be times when we will jump for joy that we have made this huge decision to take control of our weight issues. Then, there will be the times when we really want something to eat that our bands won't allow and we wonder why in the hell we ever got this damn thing to start

with! If there were absolutely no frustrations, heartaches, irritations, and the like along this great journey we are walking, how would we know when to celebrate the joys? You are NOT a failure. None of us are failures. We are strong and we have numerous reasons in which to celebrate!

Go, ingest some clear liquids, give your esophagus a break, and keep in touch!

Peace,

Jenni Currie

DOB 2/23/06

247/145/133

5 fills

3 unfills

Forever Portless

From: Tonja <tandtf@...>Subject: Poor rule follower Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 10:01 AM

I need some other opinions. I got the band May 23rd. I am still onfull liquids. I occasionally will like have a severe hiccup. Nothingcomes up . Would that be considered PB'ing? I ate something not on mylist (I know how horrible I am)and felt lots of discomfort, and wentto bed. When I woke up the next morning my throat was real scratchyand now I am coughing up green stuff. No real nasal drainage like abad cold or sinus infection. I also take a sleeping pill. Could I havePB'd and not known it and then aspirated? I am very ashamed to writethat I have cheated some but am looking for another opinion beside myown. I have the feeling that no one else that writes on the group hasever cheated. May not be true but I still feel like a failure at thispoint. Thanks for any thoughts you can give me.Tonja

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In a message dated 6/10/2008 2:19:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, giftedtch@... writes:

Well, here I am 2 years out of surgery and I can handle 2 Oreos MAX! . . . . We are strong and we have numerous reasons in which to celebrate!

Juxtapose these two ideas and a bundle of mixed ideas and mixed feelings arise. One side of me says this is all so ludicrous, and then the other side says this is all so necessary.

Yesterday I ate an entire box of Oriole cookies and drank over a quart of non-fat milk, knowing that I was going to take a host of pills just to survive another day. And yes, I was as happy and satisfied as a nursing puppy dipping my Orioles in ice cold milk and enjoying them. And I will do this again and again before my day of reckoning, July 1.

So if I am going to have any shot at living to 70, I must do something extremely radical, something that will give me control by removing the means of going out-of-control.

I don't know why I am predisposed to over eating, but I do enjoy it so. What I can do to a gallon of ice cream is indecent. Ah, and then there's Marie Calenders cream cheese pie with my morning tea. I love the way the cream melts in my mouth as the sugar and cream melt from the tea's heat. And the crumb's disintegration as I chew and swallow has no comparison. (Maybe tomorrow morning?).

And now it's almost time to change my life forever and reach the maximum 2 Orioles and learn to be satisfied with it, like it or not! And then it will be time to wear those real, American made levis that I stored some 30 years ago because I was starting to "gain weight" and sea-saw back and forth for decades.

I can hardly imagine myself with a decent sized waist again, paints hanging from my waist, a more than half the size of today's blob. I am looking forward to the new appetite, the new me.

I can celebrate this future for just a few more days and enjoy it all, the old and the new until July 1. This isn't cheating, it's doing the inevitable (for me).

Just thinking out loud.

Thanks for these insightful, powerful posts!

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