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She doesn't

seem to be doing very much exercise. She probably needs to increase frequency,

intensity, and duration, as well as start weight lifting to build up muscle -

more metabolic tissue.

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Re: plateau

I have a lap-band patient who has hit a plateau for

the past 5 months. She is eating 1000-1200 cals per day, adequate protein of at

least 60g most days, exercising about 20-30 minutes 3 times per week. What do

some of you do to get weight loss started again? My surgeon suggested the

pre-op liquid diet to jumpstart the process but I'm not sure that's

appropriate. Any advice?

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Greig

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used Glutapak R inpatient but it is quite expensive and wanted to find

something easier to find and more economical. I appreciate your help and i'll

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get her metabolism tested to see if it is normal!

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I should also mention that this patient has hypothyroidism that has been difficult to treat. What test are you thinking of to test her metabolism?? I do not have a metabolic cart. Thanks againSent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. CellularFrom: "Laschkwitsch, :LPH Weight Management Institute" Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:31:23 -0700< >Subject: RE: Re: plateau get her metabolism tested to see if it is normal! probiotic supplements> > > > > > > > I generally use probiotics during the pre and post, and was wondering if anyone is aware of a otc powder or liquid (not food source) that is easy to find. Thanks in advance.> > Angus, MSRDLDN> Vanderbilt Surgical Weight Loss Center> > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________> Rediscover Hotmail®: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry> http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile2_042009>

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A metabolic cart, maybe there is one at a medical center near by.....we have one and have recently been doing more and more testing and frankly I was shocked at how many people have low (65-70% of predicted) metabolism

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Hi ,

How were you predicting resting metabolic

wt?

Which formula, which wt?

Thanks

Sue

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A metabolic cart, maybe there is one at a medical center near

by.....we have one and have recently been doing more and more testing and

frankly I was shocked at how many people have low (65-70% of predicted)

metabolism

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Honestly, I have stopped calculating it as I am so used to it being available from the metabolic cart study, I think for your calculations you should use Ireton as I am undert the impression that it is the most accurate in morbidly obese...maybe a thing to ask the rest of the group, for that I would use their current weight and for overall needs factor in the activity.

I am sure this is not helpful but again I am not longer doing this so I don't have the answers.

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We don't have a cart either but either ways 1000 kcals daily should result in wt

loss.

This pt may be under reporting her intake. I would ask for a detailed food

record and recommend increasing her exercise to daily.

20 min 3x per wk is not enough. The 2005 USDA guidelines are 60 min daily for

wt loss.

I hope this helps,

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Thanks , I agree. I have asked her for detailed food records and we have discussed the exercise. On a different note, do any of you use Robard's products for VLCD or for pre-op diets? Any input on their products?ThanksSent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. CellularFrom: "" Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 20:24:35 -0000< >Subject: Re: plateau We don't have a cart either but either ways 1000 kcals daily should result in wt loss. This pt may be under reporting her intake. I would ask for a detailed food record and recommend increasing her exercise to daily. 20 min 3x per wk is not enough. The 2005 USDA guidelines are 60 min daily for wt loss. I hope this helps, BIDMC Boston, MA > > > > > > , > > > > Solgar makes a powdered acidophilus product. > > > > > > > > BariatricNutritionD <mailto:%40> ietitians > > From: jenniferangus76@ > > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:50:03 +0000 > > Subject: probiotic supplements > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I generally use probiotics during the pre and post, and was wondering if anyone is aware of a otc powder or liquid (not food source) that is easy to find. Thanks in advance. > > > > Angus, MSRDLDN > > Vanderbilt Surgical Weight Loss Center > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________ > > Rediscover Hotmail®: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry > > http://windowslive. <http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile2_042009> com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile2_042009 > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.7/2085 - Release Date: 04/28/09 18:02:00 >

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is Robards the same at Smart Forme? If so then yes. Many patients like their

supplements.

If this is for the same pt I too would be hesistant to recommend a liquid diet

to a band pt. Liquids can be so unsatisfying for them. I always push SOLID pro

and veg.

good luck!

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Hi Danae,

Oh I just have to say this! WE TOLD YOU SO. LOL. We have all been down your road and some of us just at different times. So if you hit another stall place in your weight loss. Keep doing what you are doing. Stuff like this happens.

And I am THRILLED for you! Yea. Keep going and don't give up, you are going to be a success story, and one day you will write and tell someone about your experiences.

Hugs,

Suzanne

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Well I'm happy to say I lost 1.5 pounds yesterday. My weight was just hanging

on but I seem to have broken through with my apple day two days ago. Also I

traveled last week to Washington DC to do a symposium with Ralph Nader and was

severly dehydrated when I got home. Now it appears I'm losing again.

I understand that I did not have alot of weight to lose but at 5' 5 " tall

getting down to 125 is certainly not that thin. It's completely average. I've

always been fastidious about my weight but now that I'm on television as a

consumer advocate all the time and my suits don't fit it was getting expensive

trying to keep up with my weight gain. My problem is that once I hit menopause

I began gaining weight even on a 1100 calorie a day diet. I was fit to be tied.

Just less one month ago I weighed 127.5 and today I'm at 128.5 and now my pants

are beginning to fit again.

I appreciate your support and hope that you all understand that I'm not that

thin. I can post photos if there are any questions!

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> > how tall are you and what is your bmi, maybe your body is at a healthy wt

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> > i was you i'd want to tell me to shut up and mind my own business, but the

> > closer you are to your goal the harder it is, i am starting a round of

> > injections this coming week,  i am 54 years old, up until i started my

current

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> > job i weighed 96 pounds and maintained around that area for approx 3 yrs,

now

> > before you freak, i am 4'7 " , so that is within my normal, then i went into

> > menopause and started working nightshift and i put on 20-25 pounds and did

it

> > quickly within 4 months, i started my 1st round at 118, i am currently at

108

> > and am pretty much holding steady, i am in phase 4, i only did 15 days due

to

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but

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> > little over 25 which i do not like, so  i am doing a short round to finish

it

> > off, when i start feeling my body tell me it's enough i'll up my calories,

and

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what

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> > that's ok, do it, good luck and hang in there, i have a feeling it will

start

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> > go back down in a short time, good luck.

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Hi Everyone, I have hit the biggest stall in my weight loss. I have lost just

over 100lbs since Sept 28/10 and I am starting to get frustrated. I do Zumba

twice a week and a muscle sculpt class once a week. I have been monitoring what

I eat on daily plate and I am under 800 calories a day but then when you add in

my exercise on those days that I am workign out my calorie intake is much less.

If anyone has any suggestions I would love to hear them. I am wanting to lose

15lbs before April 29 when we go to Florida to visit Walt Disney World. It has

been my goal for so long and I am just afraid I won't make it.

Thanks

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You might want to add more calories. Also if your still relying on Protein shakes, I would cut them out and replace with lean protein.Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: "" <movie_mommy@...>Sender: Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 02:58:20 -0000< >Reply Subject: Plateau Hi Everyone, I have hit the biggest stall in my weight loss. I have lost just over 100lbs since Sept 28/10 and I am starting to get frustrated. I do Zumba twice a week and a muscle sculpt class once a week. I have been monitoring what I eat on daily plate and I am under 800 calories a day but then when you add in my exercise on those days that I am workign out my calorie intake is much less. If anyone has any suggestions I would love to hear them. I am wanting to lose 15lbs before April 29 when we go to Florida to visit Walt Disney World. It has been my goal for so long and I am just afraid I won't make it. Thanks

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I just have a protein shake for breakday. So I should drop the shakes? What do prole eat for breakfasts lunch and dinner. I would love some ideas on menus to help get that protein in and keep the carbs low. Thanks Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheldFrom: " " <begoldin247@...>Sender: Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 04:05:52 +0000< >Reply Subject: Re: Plateau

You might want to add more calories. Also if your still relying on Protein shakes, I would cut them out and replace with lean protein.Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: "" <movie_mommy@...>Sender: Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 02:58:20 -0000< >Reply Subject: Plateau Hi Everyone, I have hit the biggest stall in my weight loss. I have lost just over 100lbs since Sept 28/10 and I am starting to get frustrated. I do Zumba twice a week and a muscle sculpt class once a week. I have been monitoring what I eat on daily plate and I am under 800 calories a day but then when you add in my exercise on those days that I am workign out my calorie intake is much less. If anyone has any suggestions I would love to hear them. I am wanting to lose 15lbs before April 29 when we go to Florida to visit Walt Disney World. It has been my goal for so long and I am just afraid I won't make it. Thanks

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Re: Plateau

How long of a stall are you talking about? Is it weeks or months? You do not

mention how much more weight you need to lose. Are these the last 15 lbs you

need to lose?

It sounds to me like you have changed both your eating habits and your exercise

habits too. This is an awesome awesome accomplishment that will get you to

where you want to be sooner or later. That is the key in my eyes and you have

done it for over 6 months, a BIG pat on the back, clap and hugs for that.

100lbs is a lot of weight ( I know I do not have to tell you) I bet you feel

wonderful! I know I really loved it when I hit that 100 mark and the

difference of not having them on me made was incredible. Just keep doing what

you are doing and you will get there! You cannot not do it. Try changing

things a bit but if you continue to stick to the 800 cal a day and exercising

you will continue to lose. Keep focused I know stalls like this one is what got

me sidetracked when I was dieting ithout the

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Hi,

I agree, sometimes we just need to change things around. Try tracking what you are eating. You might find out by witting it down that you are over the 800 calories each day. And the closer you get to your goal the harder it is to drop those pounds. So you have to bump up the exercise sometime.

Hang in there I had my times in my weight loss that I would stall. I think my longest was 9 days.

Hugs,

Suzanne

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Re: PlateauHow long of a stall are you talking about? Is it weeks or months? You do not mention how much more weight you need to lose. Are these the last 15 lbs you need to lose? It sounds to me like you have changed both your eating habits and your exercise habits too. This is an awesome awesome accomplishment that will get you to where you want to be sooner or later. That is the key in my eyes and you have done it for over 6 months, a BIG pat on the back, clap and hugs for that. 100lbs is a lot of weight ( I know I do not have to tell you) I bet you feel wonderful! I know I really loved it when I hit that 100 mark and the difference of not having them on me made was incredible. Just keep doing what you are doing and you will get there! You cannot not do it. Try changing things a bit but if you continue to stick to the 800 cal a day and exercising you will continue to lose. Keep focused I know stalls like this one is what got me sidetracked when I was dieting ithout the

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