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What BS that is!!!

e> " From Fatigued to FLEECED "

e> Rich K.s review of Teitelbaums AACFS presentation - and my

e> response.  -

>>He (Dr Teitelbaum) said that certain types of behavior can lead to

e> this dysfunction, including " having low self-esteem as a child,

e> overachieving, trying to get approval from somebody who wasn't

e> going to give it, trying to be all things to all people, and taking

e> care of everybody but yourself. " He used the analogy of a fuse in

e> an electrical circuit in one's house. If the circuit is overloaded,

e> the fuse blows. The fuse is there to protect the circuit and the

e> house. He likened the hypothalamus to the fuse. It protects a

e> person against what is perceived as an overwhelming stress. In

e> the electrical analogy, it is not enough simply to turn the circuit

e> back on. It is also necessary to determine what caused the fuse

e> to blow and to correct it, or the fuse will simply blow again. He

e> emphasized that the same is true of hypothalamic dysfunction.

e> Resuming the same behavior will cause the problem to reoccur.<

e> What kind of nonsense is this?

e> The theory must fit the facts.

e> The theory must fit the facts.

e> The theory must fit the facts.

e> The facts are that this " Drop Dead Flu " raged through a girls

e> basketball team.  Did they all have simultaneous " low self esteem "

e> from a losing streak?

e> The facts are that this " Drop Dead Flu " raged through a group of

e> teachers all using the same room.  Did they all suddenly blow a fuse

e> from being " all things to all people " ?

e> " RESUMING THIS BEHAVIOR WILL CAUSE THE PROBLEM TO REOCCUR " ????????

e> There you have it, you miserable, maladjusted, maladapted,

e> misbehaving, misfits!

e> Your behavior caused it.  Your behavior will cause the problem to

e> reoccur!

e> So Wessely got to Teitelbaum too.

e> The statistical improbability of the simultaneous " low self esteem "

e> induced drop dead flu is so contrary to the facts that it is clear

e> that Teitelbaum is mentally manipulating the evidence to fit his

e> theory that, " You caused it yourself and your behavior can cause it

e> to happen again " .

e> THE THEORY MUST FIT THE FACTS!

e> That one doesn't!

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What BS that is!!!

e> " From Fatigued to FLEECED "

e> Rich K.s review of Teitelbaums AACFS presentation - and my

e> response.  -

>>He (Dr Teitelbaum) said that certain types of behavior can lead to

e> this dysfunction, including " having low self-esteem as a child,

e> overachieving, trying to get approval from somebody who wasn't

e> going to give it, trying to be all things to all people, and taking

e> care of everybody but yourself. " He used the analogy of a fuse in

e> an electrical circuit in one's house. If the circuit is overloaded,

e> the fuse blows. The fuse is there to protect the circuit and the

e> house. He likened the hypothalamus to the fuse. It protects a

e> person against what is perceived as an overwhelming stress. In

e> the electrical analogy, it is not enough simply to turn the circuit

e> back on. It is also necessary to determine what caused the fuse

e> to blow and to correct it, or the fuse will simply blow again. He

e> emphasized that the same is true of hypothalamic dysfunction.

e> Resuming the same behavior will cause the problem to reoccur.<

e> What kind of nonsense is this?

e> The theory must fit the facts.

e> The theory must fit the facts.

e> The theory must fit the facts.

e> The facts are that this " Drop Dead Flu " raged through a girls

e> basketball team.  Did they all have simultaneous " low self esteem "

e> from a losing streak?

e> The facts are that this " Drop Dead Flu " raged through a group of

e> teachers all using the same room.  Did they all suddenly blow a fuse

e> from being " all things to all people " ?

e> " RESUMING THIS BEHAVIOR WILL CAUSE THE PROBLEM TO REOCCUR " ????????

e> There you have it, you miserable, maladjusted, maladapted,

e> misbehaving, misfits!

e> Your behavior caused it.  Your behavior will cause the problem to

e> reoccur!

e> So Wessely got to Teitelbaum too.

e> The statistical improbability of the simultaneous " low self esteem "

e> induced drop dead flu is so contrary to the facts that it is clear

e> that Teitelbaum is mentally manipulating the evidence to fit his

e> theory that, " You caused it yourself and your behavior can cause it

e> to happen again " .

e> THE THEORY MUST FIT THE FACTS!

e> That one doesn't!

e> -

e> FAIR USE NOTICE:

e> This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been

specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material

available in our efforts to advance

e> understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy,

scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair

use' of any such copyrighted material

e> as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with

Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without

profit to those who have expressed a prior

e> interest in receiving the included information for research and educational

purposes. For more information go to:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted

e> material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use',

you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.

e>

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In a message dated 12/4/2004 10:14:01 AM Pacific Standard Time,

erikj6@... writes:

You caused it yourself and your behavior can cause it

to happen again " .

This is the kind of nonsense that one sees in court cases - the defense uses

it to blame the victim for the illness. Very good points, ! What I like

about Dr. Shoemaker's scientific approach is that he uses physical evidence

following the scientific method in all things - these other " doctors " contrive

a ridiculous, unsupported theory and suck in those who will pay exhorbitant

prices. Please do not be taken in by the " mold quacks " - look for sound

science.

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In a message dated 12/4/2004 10:14:01 AM Pacific Standard Time,

erikj6@... writes:

You caused it yourself and your behavior can cause it

to happen again " .

This is the kind of nonsense that one sees in court cases - the defense uses

it to blame the victim for the illness. Very good points, ! What I like

about Dr. Shoemaker's scientific approach is that he uses physical evidence

following the scientific method in all things - these other " doctors " contrive

a ridiculous, unsupported theory and suck in those who will pay exhorbitant

prices. Please do not be taken in by the " mold quacks " - look for sound

science.

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