Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Nice, I posted my two cents there as well. In reality, it should be the companies, but also the state regulatory agencies who should bear the financial burden, the courts and quite possibly even the companies that require the testing (less so). Government agencies should be held to a standard of proof that the tests they are using are actually reliable. The running joke with healthcare is if you like the way the government runs DMV then you'll love government run healthcare. The same applies to these tests. Brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "Tis better to be p***ed off, than to be p***sed on"! Someone should be held responsible for making the decision in the first place, and maybe even more importantly continuing to mandate and use the test in the face of overwhelming evidence that they are not reliable and based upon bad science. I don't believe they should be allowed to get away with OOPS on this one. An investigation should also be launched into the 501©(3) status of many of the organizations perpetrating this fraud as well. It irritates me even further that they are avoiding taxes while ruining people's lives. ChrisLorie <saclorie@...> wrote: http://phillips.blogs.com/goc/2006/10/offensive.html#comment-25147759 "I believe that a business test, applied under Federal regulations, that has falsely accused innocent people of drinking alcohol, should be a crime. All people who got a positive EtG test result should get a $1 million payment from the Federal government immediately as partial restitution and anyone who can show actual damages should get 25 times the actual damages." Everyone is raving about the all-new beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 my tests are given thru HHS ..that is the unbrella over SAMHSA (government) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 His response to my question of why he thinks government should be held accountable instead of the big businesses that market the test is that it is the federal government that forces companies to give drug tests. True for most drug testing programs, but not for any of us. EtG isn't used in federal testing programs. My feelings were that, up until SAMHSA issued their advisory, I believed that those using the test were exempt from litigation b/c they were victims of an overly aggressive marketing campaign based upon erroneous information. Now, as I sit here and see little change since Sept. 30th when the advisory was issued, I wonder what the next step is. I know these are govt. entities and are regulated by other govt. entities, but I'm hitting walls in trying to figure this one out. Conlan <christopherconlan@...> wrote: Nice, I posted my two cents there as well. In reality, it should be the companies, but also the state regulatory agencies who should bear the financial burden, the courts and quite possibly even the companies that require the testing (less so). Government agencies should be held to a standard of proof that the tests they are using are actually reliable. The running joke with healthcare is if you like the way the government runs DMV then you'll love government run healthcare. The same applies to these tests. Brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "Tis better to be p***ed off, than to be p***sed on"! Someone should be held responsible for making the decision in the first place, and maybe even more importantly continuing to mandate and use the test in the face of overwhelming evidence that they are not reliable and based upon bad science. I don't believe they should be allowed to get away with OOPS on this one. An investigation should also be launched into the 501©(3) status of many of the organizations perpetrating this fraud as well. It irritates me even further that they are avoiding taxes while ruining people's lives. ChrisLorie <saclorie > wrote: http://phillips.blogs.com/goc/2006/10/offensive.html#comment-25147759 "I believe that a business test, applied under Federal regulations, that has falsely accused innocent people of drinking alcohol, should be a crime. All people who got a positive EtG test result should get a $1 million payment from the Federal government immediately as partial restitution and anyone who can show actual damages should get 25 times the actual damages." Everyone is raving about the all-new beta. Check out the all-new - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Right, but it's not regulated by SAMHSA's workplace drug testing or DOT programs. > > my tests are given thru HHS ..that is the unbrella over SAMHSA (government) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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