Re: explant date set for Dec. 11th...

[Guest guest]

iggyrn,

Just curious, have you ever had a blood test to see if you have Helicobacter Pylori (a bacteria). I thought I was dying about 2 years ago. I tested positive and took Helidac for 14 days. It's a regimen of several antibotics taken together. I feel better, but I think I keep getting it because of my implants. I've had three separate treatments of antibotics. Normally just one treatment eradicates the bacteria. It didn't for me. I want the implants out, but I'm having a hard time making the final decision to do so.

Jeanine

>From: "iggyrn2b"

>Reply- > >Subject: explant date set for Dec. 11th... >Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 04:35:15 -0000 > >Hi everyone, the date is set, I put the deposit money down, and >hoping for someone else to cancel so I could be explanted sooner... >I went to my Rheummy yesterday along w/physical therapy, I asked my >doc what he thought and he said, "definitely remove them, it can only >help you," Im surprised he admitted that much... THis pain is so >horrible, all over my body, every joint, especially elbows and knees, >head and neck and back... I am so tired... The rheummy put me on >Provigal.(narcoleptic med)so I can reduce some of the crushing >fatigue... I feel so sick, I take every supplement and vitamin, I >still feel like Im dying... I pray that some of this subsides after >the explant, I cannot go on w/this pain and fatigue and headaches and >sickness... Im on antibiotic therapy for the mycos, they say that >your symptoms get worse before you get better, I just need a break >from this pain.... Please say a prayer for me, I will keep all of >you in my prayers, I know you are all brave women as well.... I just >needed to vent.... God bless, Iggy > > >

[Guest guest]

Iggy, I know how that pain is, and I feel for you right now. I was explanted last year, and also had mycos (still do) and since explant, and on the ab therapy, as well as some progesterone, my joint pain has decreases greatly (like 75%) and my fatigue is gone. AS well as many other scary symptoms. Even blood work has dramatically improved, so I know its not in my head.

Hang in there, know that there are sisters here for you, who have went through what you are going through. We are surviving, and feeling better each and every day. It has taken some time, a year now- for me, but slowly and surely, I am getting back to my old self again. I had terrible joint pain in my hands, fingers and feet for almost 2 years, and that is almost gone now. My neck hurt so bad, I cant even describe it. Now, its fine, normal again. As well as many other symptoms that have left my life. I cant even tell you the peace I feel knowing I am getting better every day. Just get them out, like planned, and detox, you will recover, and be amazed at how wonderful our bodies are made. To jump back, and repair damage. And Pray! That is the tool to regained health, Only God can fully heal you, and He will, if you ask.

Love Always,

----- Original Message -----

From: iggyrn2b

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 11:35 PM

Subject: explant date set for Dec. 11th...

Hi everyone, the date is set, I put the deposit money down, and hoping for someone else to cancel so I could be explanted sooner... I went to my Rheummy yesterday along w/physical therapy, I asked my doc what he thought and he said, "definitely remove them, it can only help you," Im surprised he admitted that much... THis pain is so horrible, all over my body, every joint, especially elbows and knees, head and neck and back... I am so tired... The rheummy put me on Provigal.(narcoleptic med)so I can reduce some of the crushing fatigue... I feel so sick, I take every supplement and vitamin, I still feel like Im dying... I pray that some of this subsides after the explant, I cannot go on w/this pain and fatigue and headaches and sickness... Im on antibiotic therapy for the mycos, they say that your symptoms get worse before you get better, I just need a break from this pain.... Please say a prayer for me, I will keep all of you in my prayers, I know you are all brave women as well.... I just needed to vent.... God bless, Iggy

[Guest guest]

Thanks , I need to pray more... It is reassuring to hear that

you feel better... Im just so close to giving up on my job and

whatever else demands too much of me... I feel scared... But in

prayer I donot. I always get a good cry and once I let out all this

stuff deep inside it helps abit to handle it again... sounds strange

but it does help... Its so frustrating to feel like someone w/a third

eye when you walk in the docs office or rheummys office... I am

actually getting such extreme fatigue I dont even care anymore!!!

Thanks again for your post... God bless, Iggy

-- In , " JOSEPH PALANCA "

<juliejp61@m...> wrote:

> Iggy, I know how that pain is, and I feel for you right now. I was

explanted last year, and also had mycos (still do) and since explant,

and on the ab therapy, as well as some progesterone, my joint pain

has decreases greatly (like 75%) and my fatigue is gone. AS well as

many other scary symptoms. Even blood work has dramatically improved,

so I know its not in my head.

> Hang in there, know that there are sisters here for you, who have

went through what you are going through. We are surviving, and

feeling better each and every day. It has taken some time, a year now-

for me, but slowly and surely, I am getting back to my old self

again. I had terrible joint pain in my hands, fingers and feet for

almost 2 years, and that is almost gone now. My neck hurt so bad, I

cant even describe it. Now, its fine, normal again. As well as many

other symptoms that have left my life. I cant even tell you the peace

I feel knowing I am getting better every day. Just get them out, like

planned, and detox, you will recover, and be amazed at how wonderful

our bodies are made. To jump back, and repair damage. And Pray! That

is the tool to regained health, Only God can fully heal you, and He

will, if you ask.

> Love Always,

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: iggyrn2b

>

> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 11:35 PM

> Subject: explant date set for Dec. 11th...

>

>

> Hi everyone, the date is set, I put the deposit money down, and

> hoping for someone else to cancel so I could be explanted

sooner...

> I went to my Rheummy yesterday along w/physical therapy, I asked

my

> doc what he thought and he said, " definitely remove them, it can

only

> help you, " Im surprised he admitted that much... THis pain is

so

> horrible, all over my body, every joint, especially elbows and

knees,

> head and neck and back... I am so tired... The rheummy put me on

> Provigal.(narcoleptic med)so I can reduce some of the crushing

> fatigue... I feel so sick, I take every supplement and vitamin,

I

> still feel like Im dying... I pray that some of this subsides

after

> the explant, I cannot go on w/this pain and fatigue and headaches

and

> sickness... Im on antibiotic therapy for the mycos, they say

that

> your symptoms get worse before you get better, I just need a

break

> from this pain.... Please say a prayer for me, I will keep all

of

> you in my prayers, I know you are all brave women as well.... I

just

> needed to vent.... God bless, Iggy

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

:

What a good post to Igge. It was filled with hope which is what

I needed to hear this morning. I saw two ps's last week and both

are very capable but they didn't give me much hope that my symptoms

would improve after explant. It gives me courage to hear from one who

has truly "been there". You sister's are just about all right now that is

keeping me going. Thanks....

DebbyeJOSEPH PALANCA <juliejp61@...> wrote:

Iggy, I know how that pain is, and I feel for you right now. I was explanted last year, and also had mycos (still do) and since explant, and on the ab therapy, as well as some progesterone, my joint pain has decreases greatly (like 75%) and my fatigue is gone. AS well as many other scary symptoms. Even blood work has dramatically improved, so I know its not in my head.

Hang in there, know that there are sisters here for you, who have went through what you are going through. We are surviving, and feeling better each and every day. It has taken some time, a year now- for me, but slowly and surely, I am getting back to my old self again. I had terrible joint pain in my hands, fingers and feet for almost 2 years, and that is almost gone now. My neck hurt so bad, I cant even describe it. Now, its fine, normal again. As well as many other symptoms that have left my life. I cant even tell you the peace I feel knowing I am getting better every day. Just get them out, like planned, and detox, you will recover, and be amazed at how wonderful our bodies are made. To jump back, and repair damage. And Pray! That is the tool to regained health, Only God can fully heal you, and He will, if you ask.

Love Always,

----- Original Message -----

From: iggyrn2b

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 11:35 PM

Subject: explant date set for Dec. 11th...

Hi everyone, the date is set, I put the deposit money down, and hoping for someone else to cancel so I could be explanted sooner... I went to my Rheummy yesterday along w/physical therapy, I asked my doc what he thought and he said, "definitely remove them, it can only help you," Im surprised he admitted that much... THis pain is so horrible, all over my body, every joint, especially elbows and knees, head and neck and back... I am so tired... The rheummy put me on Provigal.(narcoleptic med)so I can reduce some of the crushing fatigue... I feel so sick, I take every supplement and vitamin, I still feel like Im dying... I pray that some of this subsides after the explant, I cannot go on w/this pain and fatigue and headaches and sickness... Im on antibiotic therapy for the mycos, they say that your symptoms get worse before you get better, I just need a break from this

pain.... Please say a prayer for me, I will keep all of you in my prayers, I know you are all brave women as well.... I just needed to vent.... God bless, Iggy

[Guest guest]

Debbye, thank you for your sweet post! Don't listen to them! I went to over 10 doctors, trying to prove my case to get medical letters of necessity so my ins would cover explant. I was turned down, told I was crazy, told I wouldn’t get better, and that surgery may be more dangerous! Unitl I found my neurologist, and she wrote me a letter immediately. My blood work, and symptoms were very alarming to her.

The symptoms that did go away right from the start was the brain fog, the neck pain, the headaches, the cramps, the weird muscle twitches! Never again have I has them. I am getting better, some faster than others, some slowly alleviating. Some girls do right away! Ah- how I wished that were the case. But I go by the knowledge, that I had them for almost 9 yrs, and its not going to happen for me overnight. My God, give my body a few years to find its way back. I have been scared, worried even explant, but at peace that I have done all I can. I have given it my best shot to recover (my immunity) and it has paid off. Never forget that. Explanting is the best shot to health, of course with prayer. Lots of it. Hang in there! Love, ---- Original Message -----

From: Deborah S Levy

Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 11:00 AM

Subject: Re: explant date set for Dec. 11th...

:

What a good post to Igge. It was filled with hope which is what

I needed to hear this morning. I saw two ps's last week and both

are very capable but they didn't give me much hope that my symptoms

would improve after explant. It gives me courage to hear from one who

has truly "been there". You sister's are just about all right now that is

keeping me going. Thanks....

DebbyeJOSEPH PALANCA <juliejp61@...> wrote:

Iggy, I know how that pain is, and I feel for you right now. I was explanted last year, and also had mycos (still do) and since explant, and on the ab therapy, as well as some progesterone, my joint pain has decreases greatly (like 75%) and my fatigue is gone. AS well as many other scary symptoms. Even blood work has dramatically improved, so I know its not in my head.

Hang in there, know that there are sisters here for you, who have went through what you are going through. We are surviving, and feeling better each and every day. It has taken some time, a year now- for me, but slowly and surely, I am getting back to my old self again. I had terrible joint pain in my hands, fingers and feet for almost 2 years, and that is almost gone now. My neck hurt so bad, I cant even describe it. Now, its fine, normal again. As well as many other symptoms that have left my life. I cant even tell you the peace I feel knowing I am getting better every day. Just get them out, like planned, and detox, you will recover, and be amazed at how wonderful our bodies are made. To jump back, and repair damage. And Pray! That is the tool to regained health, Only God can fully heal you, and He will, if you ask.

Love Always,

----- Original Message -----

From: iggyrn2b

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 11:35 PM

Subject: explant date set for Dec. 11th...

Hi everyone, the date is set, I put the deposit money down, and hoping for someone else to cancel so I could be explanted sooner... I went to my Rheummy yesterday along w/physical therapy, I asked my doc what he thought and he said, "definitely remove them, it can only help you," Im surprised he admitted that much... THis pain is so horrible, all over my body, every joint, especially elbows and knees, head and neck and back... I am so tired... The rheummy put me on Provigal.(narcoleptic med)so I can reduce some of the crushing fatigue... I feel so sick, I take every supplement and vitamin, I still feel like Im dying... I pray that some of this subsides after the explant, I cannot go on w/this pain and fatigue and headaches and sickness... Im on antibiotic therapy for the mycos, they say that your symptoms get worse before you get better, I just need a break from this pain.... Please say a prayer for me, I will keep all of you in my prayers, I know you are all brave women as well.... I just needed to vent.... God bless, Iggy

[Guest guest]

God bless you Iggy,

I pray that your surgery date can be soon and that you have a successful explant and on your way to healing! I am really happy to hear you have the support of your doctor for removal. That is wonderful, so rare in fact!

Be patient, this all takes time. I remember how sick I was and how badly I wanted to get better...the thought of improvement taking years was almost more than I could bear, but it does happen. You've seen the posts from all of our shining stars here who have healed greatly.., , Dimonds, and others through the years. Stay hopeful and just do what you can for healing as your surgery date approaches. It will be over soon, and then you really will be on your way to better health and healing. Venting is a good thing, so vent away!

Hugs,

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: iggyrn2b

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 9:35 PM

Subject: explant date set for Dec. 11th...

Hi everyone, the date is set, I put the deposit money down, and hoping for someone else to cancel so I could be explanted sooner... I went to my Rheummy yesterday along w/physical therapy, I asked my doc what he thought and he said, "definitely remove them, it can only help you," Im surprised he admitted that much... THis pain is so horrible, all over my body, every joint, especially elbows and knees, head and neck and back... I am so tired... The rheummy put me on Provigal.(narcoleptic med)so I can reduce some of the crushing fatigue... I feel so sick, I take every supplement and vitamin, I still feel like Im dying... I pray that some of this subsides after the explant, I cannot go on w/this pain and fatigue and headaches and sickness... Im on antibiotic therapy for the mycos, they say that your symptoms get worse before you get better, I just need a break from this pain.... Please say a prayer for me, I will keep all of you in my prayers, I know you are all brave women as well.... I just needed to vent.... God bless, Iggy

[Guest guest]

Iggy, you will get better, and you are in prayers! I cant believe how great I am feeling, and am on my way back to being me. It has been a little over a year now, and I have to admit, in some areas, a very slow process.

It will take time ,so hang in there.

However want to tell you that I have been on Primal Defense by Garden of Life for about 3 months now, after taking the prep fungal defense, and ( read the book "Patient heal thyself") and it has helped immensley with the myco's. I also am on the antibiotic protocol, and this stuff works as good or better in my opinion! It has been proven in studies to kill of all bad bacterias, yeast, andesp hard to fight mycoplasma infections. My joint pain is almost gone. Hurray!

I attribute that to explant, detox, progesterone (as I was estrogen dominant) and also this primal defense. It is full of live healthy microorganisms form pure soil that eat up and fight all sorts of things. And it has the probiotics, enzymes, and minerals as well. At first I thought, yeah right, but do you know most antibiotics are found from the soil, and then reproduced for our use? So this is powerful stuff. Scientists have known about it a long time.

I also just did a 14 day cleanse by enzymatic therapy, it cleans out your lymph, blood, liver and colon, and am very suprised how well it worked. I felt very ill, and had very bad (not to gross you out) stools I have never had before. Yuck! After off of it, I feel great! Hang in there, with Gods help, all of gals, and explant, you are on your way! Kudos to you!

----- Original Message -----

From: *~Patty~*

Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:07 PM

Subject: Re: explant date set for Dec. 11th...

God bless you Iggy,

I pray that your surgery date can be soon and that you have a successful explant and on your way to healing! I am really happy to hear you have the support of your doctor for removal. That is wonderful, so rare in fact!

Be patient, this all takes time. I remember how sick I was and how badly I wanted to get better...the thought of improvement taking years was almost more than I could bear, but it does happen. You've seen the posts from all of our shining stars here who have healed greatly.., , Dimonds, and others through the years. Stay hopeful and just do what you can for healing as your surgery date approaches. It will be over soon, and then you really will be on your way to better health and healing. Venting is a good thing, so vent away!

Hugs,

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: iggyrn2b

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 9:35 PM

Subject: explant date set for Dec. 11th...

Hi everyone, the date is set, I put the deposit money down, and hoping for someone else to cancel so I could be explanted sooner... I went to my Rheummy yesterday along w/physical therapy, I asked my doc what he thought and he said, "definitely remove them, it can only help you," Im surprised he admitted that much... THis pain is so horrible, all over my body, every joint, especially elbows and knees, head and neck and back... I am so tired... The rheummy put me on Provigal.(narcoleptic med)so I can reduce some of the crushing fatigue... I feel so sick, I take every supplement and vitamin, I still feel like Im dying... I pray that some of this subsides after the explant, I cannot go on w/this pain and fatigue and headaches and sickness... Im on antibiotic therapy for the mycos, they say that your symptoms get worse before you get better, I just need a break from this pain.... Please say a prayer for me, I will keep all of you in my prayers, I know you are all brave women as well.... I just needed to vent.... God bless, Iggy

[Guest guest]

,

It is great to hear about your improvements!

Can you tell us more about the Enzymatic Therapy? Is it a product that you used? I couldn't find anything on the net related to it...

I'm ready for another fast myself. Let me know more about the fast you did.

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: JOSEPH PALANCA

Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 9:03 AM

Subject: Re: explant date set for Dec. 11th...

Rogene, I know itn't it amazing? I had to read the book though to fully understand how HSO's organisms work. I am very skeptical. I have been on it for 3 months and cannot believe the difference with all my symptoms. Ya know, I think that for all of us, it may take some fine tuning, with different approaches. I was messed up really bad, I know alot like you, with all the myco's, thyroid issues, joint pain, swollen lymph nodes, viral issues (shingles,bells palsy) I actually had a doc tell me he was suprised I wasnt HIV positve with all the issues. And mine is defintly progesterone replacement, and the primal defense, as the main things that have dramaticaly helped me, as well as the anitbitoic therapy, b12 sublinguals, and probiotics.

Patty has helped alot with detoxing tips, and articles....and I also just did a 14 fast by enzyamatic therapy that really helped! I feel like I coming back to normal again. How are you feeling? I will be seeing Dr mercola in 2 weeks to request another test to see how my myco levels are, as well as my thyroid antibodies.Should be interesting, to see the proof , and I am having another live cell done to see my blood.

Rogene, it is always great to hear from you, fill me in on your progress! Love

(I am taking right now the enzyamatic therapy enzymes, until I run out, and then I will want to take the Garden of Life's brand. Are you on it?)

[Guest guest]

Rogene,

This is incredible that your massage therapist has said that your tissue feels normal enough to quit treating you as a fibromyalgia patient...you are the first person I've ever heard of that has been able to get away from having that diagnosis, once it has been made. You've given alot of hope here that it can be overcome!

Do you think the infrared sauna is the one thing that has made a huge difference, or is it a combination of things? (Didn't you just recently get your sauna?)

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: Rogene S

Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 9:40 AM

Subject: Re: explant date set for Dec. 11th...

,

Please keep us posted on your visit with Mercola . . . I'm definitely interested in the enzyme therapy. Can one purchase Mercola's enzyme product without seeing him?

I'm doing great right now though . . . just had my tests and physical . . . all previous symptoms are gone . . . Doctor asked me what I was there for! . . . My fingernails have started growing strong, and I'm growing hair on my legs and under my arms again. The ear that has been hurting frequently for years is fine . . . My shoulder that hurt for at least 20 years is fine. Thighs are feeling smoother and more solid rather than bumpy and mushy. My massage therapist says my tissue feels almost normal and that she has quit treating me as a fibromyalgia client. - I believe the infrared sauna is helping too!

The doc and I had an interesting conversation . .. She finds it difficult to tell someone that they have a systemic candida problem, because most people think she's off the wall when she does . . . and very few will follow up with natural methods. She's a D.O., a fairly recent graduate. She says the candida issue is generally dismissed in medical school. She hadn't heard about the spit test! I've had a hard time connecting with her until now . . . I think when she saw that I was willing to follow her suggestion for natural methods, she relaxed! She seemed so frustrated with me before! Now I'd like to have a few hours to spend talking with her!

She's very interested in infrared sauna. One of her other patients who has a very bad neck and back has started coming over regularly to use the sauna. She said that if he helped him, she'd be a believer!

She was the one who suggested that I see a naturopath when she figure out why I was having so many problems. . . He offices in a building with a health food store. I got as far as the store, when I was given a copy of Patient Heal Thyself.

The only downside is that I'm have some shortness of breath . . . EKG and x-ray are fine, so I'm going to gradually step up my exercise before pursuing it further. (I'm trying to convince my hubby that the doctor wants someone to walk with me for my safety! He's trying to figure that one out! . . . He hates exercising!)

I feel as though being completely well is just on the other side of something I can't define. I don't know if the day will ever come when I can live without considering the health consequences of everything I do . .. but when that day comes, I'll know I'm completely well! . . . It's probably something simple that I'm trying to avoid doing!

Hugs to all,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Kay,

Were you contacted about going to testify in Washington next week? I am sure you have sent in your story....just curious if you were at all considering going.

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: kay varni

Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 3:27 PM

Subject: Re: explant date set for Dec. 11th...

Dear Iggy,

I am so sorry,I know how you are feeling. It is good to vent,scream,cry. I know how it feels to wait,knowing that the implants are still in the body making you sick. yuk ! I remember having such bad dreams of removing them myself at home, waking up in the middle of the nightmare.....scarry...the head aches,the fire inside, the joint pain, the loss of will to live. Mine were removed Sept 17, 2003. I am new in the recovery field, it takes time. The immediate neck aches, fire in the head is GONE immediately...I had Silicone Textured for 14 years. Oh Yes! I will pray for you. You are in my thoughts...I wanted to let you know, I am thinking about you.

K L Varni