Re: I'm new here, but not new to pain and fatigue I think from implants?

[Guest guest]

Hi Iggy,

I am so glad you joined us and shared with us what you are going through right now...and it does sound all implant related. There are some very classic signs, and the pain and fatigue are included in those.

I am also glad you are not afraid to be taking the steps to get these things removed from your body, but I do want to caution you about several things. You said you were going to call your plastic surgeon and make an appt to get them out....I assume that you have an excellent relationship with him/her...but please be aware that many plastic surgeons downplay the connection between implants and disease, or deny it outright, and then try to make you feel stupid for even wanting them out to begin with. They use tactics such as Debbye recently wrote about, which includes expressing skepticism that you will look good again, or ridicule, or even joking around, as mine did. These tactics area designed to create doubt in your mind about your decision, but the truth is that if you know your body and in your heart and soul feel that the implants have taken your health away, then EVERY doctor should respect that and accomodate you...it is, after all, your body.

The second area that most doctors become negligent in is when it comes to removal of the scar tissue around the implants. This is a necessity that CANNOT be overlooked. Many p/s's will just drain and yank out the implant, leaving the scar tissue because it adds expense, time and work to remove it. They also sometimes think they are doing the woman a favor because it adds volume to the breast when there isn't much tissue there. However, the big problem in all of this is that scar tissue acts as a reservoir of silicone breakdown products, bacterial colonies, and other gunk that can cause huge problems later on as the body responds to this, but more importantly, it can prevent complete healing from taking place. And that is the reason we get the implants out to begin with---we want healing, but if the scar tissue is not removed, the chances are greatly diminished for that.

Again, welcome to our group and please take a look around the website, where we have all kinds of information posted on explant procedures, photos, studies and links to help you sort out all of the information you will need as you begin taking care of yourself in new and positive ways.

God bless,

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: iggyrn2b

Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:45 PM

Subject: I'm new here, but not new to pain and fatigue I think from implants?

Hi everyone, I had read a post a while back that someone posted on a fibromyalgia board about this board. THis woman wanted us to be aware of our FM/CFS possibly coming from implants. I had saline implants about 4-5 yrs ago... I have disintegrated drastically in my health, I have been dx'd w/FM, Mycoplasma P (from a weak immune system) and possible CFS... I have horrible chronic pain, and all the usual symptoms of autoimmune disorders. I am calling my plastic surgeon Monday and getting an appt to have them removed. I believe this is what is causing my symptoms... they say major traumas start up these illnesses, well, I have had 2 major car wrecks, back in 82 and 85, childbirth in 1995 and implants 98 or 99. my pain started heavily after implants..... please help me with some info on how I should do this... I have a rheummy that tested me and he said that my sed rates were normal and ANA as well, but I had all the tender points of fibro and 70% of FM patients have mycos in their tissues and such... Is there any way to know for sure that my implants caused this? My head and heart tell me this is what it is... right after the implants I never felt the same... and the weight gain happened immediately, like my body just was never itself.... thank you for reading this... I need all the help I can get... I have excellent docs that can help me.... Iggy

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Iggy, its michelle, your case sounds classic to mine. I never had positive ANA or elevated sed rates until after my implants were taken out and I have definately FM and CFS. And the weight gain. When I put implants in I weighed 124 lbs, just better explant and when I was in the mental hospital with all the meds they had me on I was 208 lbs. I'm at a slimmer 181 now and went off all psychotrophic meds. How much did you gain? My FM hit me real hard about 3 years ago. I was still holding a thin weight of 130's then, now I've blimped out. Anyone else with the same problem? It's definately the implants. And the worse your symptoms the harder it is for you to move and keep from being depressed. Get the implants out before anything worse could happen. They may have already ruptured. Get an MRI it might tell you if they have. Mine were both ruptured for a long time. Mine were silicone, 15 years

old. You'll be so much happier being natural and knowing you're setting your body on an improved health regime. You're only fighting you're own immune system. Let me know, Love iggyrn2b <iggyrn2b@...> wrote:

Hi everyone, I had read a post a while back that someone posted on a fibromyalgia board about this board. THis woman wanted us to be aware of our FM/CFS possibly coming from implants. I had saline implants about 4-5 yrs ago... I have disintegrated drastically in my health, I have been dx'd w/FM, Mycoplasma P (from a weak immune system) and possible CFS... I have horrible chronic pain, and all the usual symptoms of autoimmune disorders. I am calling my plastic surgeon Monday and getting an appt to have them removed. I believe this is what is causing my symptoms... they say major traumas start up these illnesses, well, I have had 2 major car wrecks, back in 82 and 85, childbirth in 1995 and implants 98 or 99. my pain started heavily after implants..... please help me with some info on

how I should do this... I have a rheummy that tested me and he said that my sed rates were normal and ANA as well, but I had all the tender points of fibro and 70% of FM patients have mycos in their tissues and such... Is there any way to know for sure that my implants caused this? My head and heart tell me this is what it is... right after the implants I never felt the same... and the weight gain happened immediately, like my body just was never itself.... thank you for reading this... I need all the help I can get... I have excellent docs that can help me.... Iggy

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone, I had read a post a

while back that someone posted on a

> fibromyalgia board about this board. THis woman wanted us to be

> aware of our FM/CFS possibly coming from implants. I had saline

> implants about 4-5 yrs ago... I have disintegrated drastically in

my

> health, I have been dx'd w/FM, Mycoplasma P (from a weak immune

> system) and possible CFS... I have horrible chronic pain, and all

> the usual symptoms of autoimmune disorders. I am calling my

plastic

> surgeon Monday and getting an appt to have them removed. I believe

> this is what is causing my symptoms... they say major traumas

start

> up these illnesses, well, I have had 2 major car wrecks, back in 82

> and 85, childbirth in 1995 and implants 98 or 99. my pain started

> heavily after implants..... please help me with some info on how I

> should do this... I have a rheummy that tested me and he said that

my

> sed rates were normal and ANA as well, but I had all the tender

> points of fibro and 70% of FM patients have mycos in their tissues

> and such... Is there any way to know for sure that my implants

> caused this? My head and heart tell me this is what it is... right

> after the implants I never felt the same... and the weight gain

> happened immediately, like my body just was never itself.... thank

> you for reading this... I need all the help I can get... I have

> excellent docs that can help me.... Iggy

>

>

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