Re: For thinking of implants

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Great post girl!

It would be great if you could post your test results over time that showed your ANA going up and then down again. Would you? We could probably put it permanently over in the files section or something...think about it! I think we need to see some concrete proof in the blood results posted on this group. It helps to see undeniable proof like that!

, how bout you too? Can you post how the numbers fell and things changed for you over time? I'm not sure what would be the best way to do it, but let's just get it up there and try, if you feel open to this suggestion.

Patty

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From: naturalbeauty38

Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 10:08 AM

Subject: For thinking of implants

,Girl you came to the right place to help you in your decision. Gosh I wonder what my life might have been like if I had only found a site like this when I was thinking of implants, but I guess there had to be some of us to go through this so that we could warn others of the HUGE MISTAKE implants are. I think most of us here that had saline were all of the same misunderstanding, that these were SAFE! Ha, we all seemed pretty aware of the risks with Silicone gel, and none of us wanted those, I know I did not want gel, I never would have done it had they been gel, to me the lawsuits and the stuff that I had heard about all seemed like it had to have been true, even though the PS's all told me it was hype I still felt that no way these women were making this up, and to me it made sense, seemed very logical, that gel leaking into your body would and could have the potential to make you sick. So anyhow, my point is that I felt gel was not safe. I understood that the envelope of saline implants was made of the same stuff the gel was, but I felt that since there was nothing to leak out they had to be safe. I mean salt water is very safe if it gets in your system and I never ever thought about the fact that the shell could be bad for you. So I went ahead and got the implants, to fix my saggy, deflated post weight loss, child bearing breasts. I was not happy with the job the PS did, I felt that one breast looked much different than the other, but in clothes they did look really nice. I mean they were a bit big to me, for my petite frame, but I liked the way I fit in tops and strapless dresses and esp summer clothes, bikinis etc. TOO bad that i began getting ill less than 3 months after implantation! I felt crappy all the time, like I was getting the flu or something. I was dizzy, spaced out, achy all over, esp my hands and my feet. I began thinking I was getting MS, or had a brain tumor. I mean it just got worse and worse. It turned my life upside down, I ended up addicted to pain pills to survive the day. It made a total mess out of my relationship with my kid, I was always too sick to pay attention to her, she ended up spending most of her time at her dads house, and I was alone in bed crying when I was not dragging my sick ass to work to try to hang on to my house and what was left of my pathetic existence. I almost lost everything I had. My plans to go back to school and my fitness goals went down the drain and it was hard enough just to hold onto my job. I was only 35 years old but I felt 100! I had big boobs and nothing else. WHat a price to pay to have breasts. It took me awhile while i sorted through my emotions and my denial of what was causing my illness. My family was supportive but they were growing weary and tired of hearing my complaints. My Dr's did not believe anything I said and thought I had emotional problems, they put me on anti depressants, but they just made it worse. Then my labs started showing abnormalities, finally something concrete to show the Dr's. They sent me to a rhuematologist who diagnosed me with undifferentiated mixed connective tissue disease, a long word for "we don't know what you have".They put me on pain meds and said "learn to live with it" I honestly tried to do just that, but after 18 months of suffereing I decided to try to get the implants out and maybe get better! I did it, and within a year I was almost normal again, within 2 years my life was back, it took time for me, I did not get well overnight, but it did happen! Does this sound like something you would want to risk for bigger breasts? I mean of course no one can say if it will or won't happen to you, but again, it is possible. So why risk it? learn to love yourself for you, and accept your body the way it is, your just fine the way you are! If you want to improve your physical self work out more, get a new fitness routine, lift weights, hire a personal trainer. You can do more to look better in the gym than in the ps office!Buy yourself some new clothes and nice bras, take a nice trip somewhere exotic, use that money you would have used to get implants, to spoil yourself. Go to a spa. Anything but implants. Trust me, I wish I had gone to Hawaii instead of getting implants. It would have been a better investment.At least i would have nice memories and some photographs from my trip rather than scars left from implant/explant surgery. Not to mention the emotional scars which are far more prominent than the physical ones.Good luck to you in your choices, i would say your very smart to cancel the appt you had, and I would hope that you will just forget about implants.Hugs

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That is awesome and a great idea. I could look up and send copies over my thyroid antibodies, and ana's. Let me find them, and email them over by scanner to you personally Patty. Give me a few days, Ill get working on it. Great idea! Love

>From: "*~Patty~*"

>Reply- >

>Subject: Re: For thinking of implants >Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:57:33 -0700 > >, >Great post girl! >It would be great if you could post your test results over time that showed your ANA going up and then down again. Would you? We could probably put it permanently over in the files section or something...think about it! I think we need to see some concrete proof in the blood results posted on this group. It helps to see undeniable proof like that! > >, how bout you too? Can you post how the numbers fell and things changed for you over time? I'm not sure what would be the best way to do it, but let's just get it up there and try, if you feel open to this suggestion. >Patty >----- Original Message ----- > From: naturalbeauty38 > > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 10:08 AM > Subject: For thinking of implants > > > , > > Girl you came to the right place to help you in your decision. Gosh I > wonder what my life might have been like if I had only found a site > like this when I was thinking of implants, but I guess there had to > be some of us to go through this so that we could warn others of the > HUGE MISTAKE implants are. I think most of us here that had saline > were all of the same misunderstanding, that these were SAFE! Ha, we > all seemed pretty aware of the risks with Silicone gel, and none of > us wanted those, I know I did not want gel, I never would have done > it had they been gel, to me the lawsuits and the stuff that I had > heard about all seemed like it had to have been true, even though the > PS's all told me it was hype I still felt that no way these women > were making this up, and to me it made sense, seemed very logical, > that gel leaking into your body would and could have the potential to > make you sick. So anyhow, my point is that I felt gel was not safe. I > understood that the envelope of saline implants was made of the same > stuff the gel was, but I felt that since there was nothing to leak > out they had to be safe. I mean salt water is very safe if it gets in > your system and I never ever thought about the fact that the shell > could be bad for you. So I went ahead and got the implants, to fix my > saggy, deflated post weight loss, child bearing breasts. I was not > happy with the job the PS did, I felt that one breast looked much > different than the other, but in clothes they did look really nice. I > mean they were a bit big to me, for my petite frame, but I liked the > way I fit in tops and strapless dresses and esp summer clothes, > bikinis etc. TOO bad that i began getting ill less than 3 months > after implantation! I felt crappy all the time, like I was getting > the flu or something. I was dizzy, spaced out, achy all over, esp my > hands and my feet. I began thinking I was getting MS, or had a brain > tumor. I mean it just got worse and worse. It turned my life upside > down, I ended up addicted to pain pills to survive the day. It made a > total mess out of my relationship with my kid, I was always too sick > to pay attention to her, she ended up spending most of her time at > her dads house, and I was alone in bed crying when I was not dragging > my sick ass to work to try to hang on to my house and what was left > of my pathetic existence. I almost lost everything I had. My plans to > go back to school and my fitness goals went down the drain and it > was hard enough just to hold onto my job. I was only 35 years old but > I felt 100! I had big boobs and nothing else. WHat a price to pay to > have breasts. It took me awhile while i sorted through my emotions > and my denial of what was causing my illness. My family was > supportive but they were growing weary and tired of hearing my > complaints. My Dr's did not believe anything I said and thought I had > emotional problems, they put me on anti depressants, but they just > made it worse. Then my labs started showing abnormalities, finally > something concrete to show the Dr's. They sent me to a rhuematologist > who diagnosed me with undifferentiated mixed connective tissue > disease, a long word for "we don't know what you have".They put me on > pain meds and said "learn to live with it" I honestly tried to do > just that, but after 18 months of suffereing I decided to try to get > the implants out and maybe get better! I did it, and within a year I > was almost normal again, within 2 years my life was back, it took > time for me, I did not get well overnight, but it did happen! > Does this sound like something you would want to risk for bigger > breasts? I mean of course no one can say if it will or won't happen > to you, but again, it is possible. So why risk it? learn to love > yourself for you, and accept your body the way it is, your just fine > the way you are! If you want to improve your physical self work out > more, get a new fitness routine, lift weights, hire a personal > trainer. You can do more to look better in the gym than in the ps > office! > Buy yourself some new clothes and nice bras, take a nice trip > somewhere exotic, use that money you would have used to get implants, > to spoil yourself. Go to a spa. Anything but implants. Trust me, I > wish I had gone to Hawaii instead of getting implants. It would have > been a better investment.At least i would have nice memories and some > photographs from my trip rather than scars left from implant/explant > surgery. Not to mention the emotional scars which are far more > prominent than the physical ones.Good luck to you in your choices, i > would say your very smart to cancel the appt you had, and I would > hope that you will just forget about implants. > > Hugs > > Try MSN Messenger 6.0 with integrated webcam functionality!

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Great post, especially about the Hawaii thing. I wish I would have taken a trip like that, instead of a fun fiilled 15 hour trip 9 years later to my explanting doc, last year where I recooperated from a long surgery to get them our as I was so sick. So , for those wanting implants: either you can spend the money on yourself and get a great vacation instead, or get the implants and save morer money for your future trip- to get them out, as it is expensive, and won't there wont be any tiki torches. That's for sure

>From: "naturalbeauty38"

>Reply- > >Subject: For thinking of implants >Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:08:08 -0000 > >, > >Girl you came to the right place to help you in your decision. Gosh I >wonder what my life might have been like if I had only found a site >like this when I was thinking of implants, but I guess there had to >be some of us to go through this so that we could warn others of the >HUGE MISTAKE implants are. I think most of us here that had saline >were all of the same misunderstanding, that these were SAFE! Ha, we >all seemed pretty aware of the risks with Silicone gel, and none of >us wanted those, I know I did not want gel, I never would have done >it had they been gel, to me the lawsuits and the stuff that I had >heard about all seemed like it had to have been true, even though the >PS's all told me it was hype I still felt that no way these women >were making this up, and to me it made sense, seemed very logical, >that gel leaking into your body would and could have the potential to >make you sick. So anyhow, my point is that I felt gel was not safe. I >understood that the envelope of saline implants was made of the same >stuff the gel was, but I felt that since there was nothing to leak >out they had to be safe. I mean salt water is very safe if it gets in >your system and I never ever thought about the fact that the shell >could be bad for you. So I went ahead and got the implants, to fix my >saggy, deflated post weight loss, child bearing breasts. I was not >happy with the job the PS did, I felt that one breast looked much >different than the other, but in clothes they did look really nice. I >mean they were a bit big to me, for my petite frame, but I liked the >way I fit in tops and strapless dresses and esp summer clothes, >bikinis etc. TOO bad that i began getting ill less than 3 months >after implantation! I felt crappy all the time, like I was getting >the flu or something. I was dizzy, spaced out, achy all over, esp my >hands and my feet. I began thinking I was getting MS, or had a brain >tumor. I mean it just got worse and worse. It turned my life upside >down, I ended up addicted to pain pills to survive the day. It made a >total mess out of my relationship with my kid, I was always too sick >to pay attention to her, she ended up spending most of her time at >her dads house, and I was alone in bed crying when I was not dragging >my sick ass to work to try to hang on to my house and what was left >of my pathetic existence. I almost lost everything I had. My plans to >go back to school and my fitness goals went down the drain and it >was hard enough just to hold onto my job. I was only 35 years old but >I felt 100! I had big boobs and nothing else. WHat a price to pay to >have breasts. It took me awhile while i sorted through my emotions >and my denial of what was causing my illness. My family was >supportive but they were growing weary and tired of hearing my >complaints. My Dr's did not believe anything I said and thought I had >emotional problems, they put me on anti depressants, but they just >made it worse. Then my labs started showing abnormalities, finally >something concrete to show the Dr's. They sent me to a rhuematologist >who diagnosed me with undifferentiated mixed connective tissue >disease, a long word for "we don't know what you have".They put me on >pain meds and said "learn to live with it" I honestly tried to do >just that, but after 18 months of suffereing I decided to try to get >the implants out and maybe get better! I did it, and within a year I >was almost normal again, within 2 years my life was back, it took >time for me, I did not get well overnight, but it did happen! >Does this sound like something you would want to risk for bigger >breasts? I mean of course no one can say if it will or won't happen >to you, but again, it is possible. So why risk it? learn to love >yourself for you, and accept your body the way it is, your just fine >the way you are! If you want to improve your physical self work out >more, get a new fitness routine, lift weights, hire a personal >trainer. You can do more to look better in the gym than in the ps >office! >Buy yourself some new clothes and nice bras, take a nice trip >somewhere exotic, use that money you would have used to get implants, >to spoil yourself. Go to a spa. Anything but implants. Trust me, I >wish I had gone to Hawaii instead of getting implants. It would have >been a better investment.At least i would have nice memories and some >photographs from my trip rather than scars left from implant/explant >surgery. Not to mention the emotional scars which are far more >prominent than the physical ones.Good luck to you in your choices, i >would say your very smart to cancel the appt you had, and I would >hope that you will just forget about implants. > >Hugs > > > >