welcome

[Guest guest]

HI Ian

Actually I've been a member for about a year.

Regards

Steve

On Sat, 18 Aug 2001 03:31:11 GMT Ian Sharpe (Ian@...)

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155 Forest Drive Pinelands

7405

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[Guest guest]

Steve,

Different Steve I'm afraid, my Welcome was aimed at the one that joined this

morning

Rgs

Ian S

Re: Welcome

HI Ian

Actually I've been a member for about a year.

Regards

Steve

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Hi and Welcome!

I think you will find a wealth of information and support here. I know I

have. Our is 14 yrs. old and was diagnosed with autism at age 6. We

have always thought that autism is 's primary disability rather than

the DS because of the associated behaviors and problems with communication.

started to say words at about age 1 and they were all gone by age 3.

At 14, he still doesn't have an effective system of communication, although

we are working with PECS and are hopeful. I know we will all appreciate your

feelings and welcome your contributions to the group!

Terry

[Guest guest]

<BARB> you have Spina Bifida?????? Why didn't I know that????? My beautiful neice has Spina Bifida..... Bulging disks???????? ME TOO!!!!!!!!! When are we going to do lunch and talk about all this???? WOW *HUGS* to both of us!! *hugs* to everyone!!!!!!!!!!! *HUGS* *HUGS* *HUGS* TO ALL

Love you Barb!

Chelle

(i really am getting into this font)

I have degenerative disk disease, bulging disks, & spina bifida...

[Guest guest]

hi barb... im sandra.. didn't know you have TM. I was diagnosed with TM and MS... small world

sandra

[Guest guest]

Hi, Barb - and thank you for the welcome!

Ow, that doesn't sound like fun at all. I work in a physical therapy

clinic, and I see people with those illnesses all the time. I am

a " survivor " of DDD, myself! I used to have it soooo bad. I will

never, EVER in a million years forget what that was like. I still

have it, of course, but now it's manageable (after sloughing over

150# off my poor, tired little bod!).

Best of luck to you... talk to you soon!

~lisa P.

[Guest guest]

Congratulations ! Has your back pain improved then? I have a friend

that lost a lot of weight, & said her back improved 100 %. I am

trying.....to lose weight that is....to see if it works...so far...2

pounds...Slow, but hopefully it's a start. Hope you are o.k. today! Take

care & hang in there!

Love,

Barb

Re: Welcome

Hi, Barb - and thank you for the welcome!

Ow, that doesn't sound like fun at all. I work in a physical therapy

clinic, and I see people with those illnesses all the time. I am

a " survivor " of DDD, myself! I used to have it soooo bad. I will

never, EVER in a million years forget what that was like. I still

have it, of course, but now it's manageable (after sloughing over

150# off my poor, tired little bod!).

Best of luck to you... talk to you soon!

~lisa P.

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Chelle, I would love to do lunch as long as I can have my chips & dip! LOL How are you? Take care!

Love,

Barb

Re: Welcome

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[Guest guest]

Pippa

Thanks for your information. Yes, one of my projects is " health needs

assessment of school age children in the context of the school health

advisory service " . I am in the process of collating information with a view

to completion in Nov. I would value any discussions or sharing information

on the process but am a little stuck on how to present the format for

report. I will be at the CPHVA conference in B'mouth, anyone interested in

meeting up?

Charlene

New Member

>

>

> > Hello all,

> > I have just signed up and wish to introduce myself.

> > I am a health visitor and have recently been appointed Health Needs

> > Assessment Co-ordinator for West Norfolk PCT. It is a one year

> secondement

> > and my remit is to facilitate health needs assessment and develop public

> > health capacity in primary care. I find this forum very useful to help

> > understand and maybe participate (if I am brave enough!) on current

issues

> > in health visiting. I also hope this forum will present opportunities

to

> > network and share experiences with anyone doing similar work elsewhere.

> >

> > Looking forward to some health debate.

> > Charlene

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Charlene,

Perhaps we can rendez-vous some time on Friday November 2nd in

Bournemouth ?

Good luck,

Woody.

> Pippa

> Thanks for your information. Yes, one of my projects is " health

needs

> assessment of school age children in the context of the school

health

> advisory service " . I am in the process of collating information

with a view

> to completion in Nov. I would value any discussions or sharing

information

> on the process but am a little stuck on how to present the format

for

> report. I will be at the CPHVA conference in B'mouth, anyone

interested in

> meeting up?

>

> Charlene

> New Member

> >

> >

> > > Hello all,

> > > I have just signed up and wish to introduce myself.

> > > I am a health visitor and have recently been appointed Health

Needs

> > > Assessment Co-ordinator for West Norfolk PCT. It is a one year

> > secondement

> > > and my remit is to facilitate health needs assessment and

develop public

> > > health capacity in primary care. I find this forum very useful

to help

> > > understand and maybe participate (if I am brave enough!) on

current

> issues

> > > in health visiting. I also hope this forum will present

opportunities

> to

> > > network and share experiences with anyone doing similar work

elsewhere.

> > >

> > > Looking forward to some health debate.

> > > Charlene

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Sure. However, there is a PH networking meeting at 3.30pm on Thurs. Would

this be appropriate?

Charlene

New Member

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hello all,

> > > > I have just signed up and wish to introduce myself.

> > > > I am a health visitor and have recently been appointed Health

> Needs

> > > > Assessment Co-ordinator for West Norfolk PCT. It is a one year

> > > secondement

> > > > and my remit is to facilitate health needs assessment and

> develop public

> > > > health capacity in primary care. I find this forum very useful

> to help

> > > > understand and maybe participate (if I am brave enough!) on

> current

> > issues

> > > > in health visiting. I also hope this forum will present

> opportunities

> > to

> > > > network and share experiences with anyone doing similar work

> elsewhere.

> > > >

> > > > Looking forward to some health debate.

> > > > Charlene

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi leslie, and welcome to our group. My name's ( I go by M because

there's two 's in ou group). I'm not that far from you. I live down in Ilion.

Maybe you've been down this way before. Do you have a store in Oneonta or do you

do totally internet sales? Forget answering that - I just went to your website and

browsed around. Very nice!! The name of my business is "Indulgences by "

and I'm new within the past year. I only do M & P soap right now. I love the

creativity of it. I love the soap, too. I also do bath salts, lotion bars, lip balms,

bath fizzies and hope to add more soon. I don't have a website - I'm concentrating

on local stores right now. I did two small craft shows but decided I don't really

want to do them. I found them to be too much work. But some day I may change

my mind.

I think you'll enjoy our group. We're very layed-back. We talk about anything

and it doesn't have to be soaps or business. So don't be afraid just to chat. Well,

my soaproom is calling me. Take care.

M

Ilion

new to the group

Good afternoon,I just joined CNY Soapmakers and wanted to introduce myself. I'm Craigmyle and based in Oneonta. I own Chapin House Soap Company with myfriend, Lesley Bidwell. (www.chapinhouse.com)We've been making soap for a couple years and are still very enthusiasticabout it. - We do a few craft fairs a year, but mostly sell in some localstores.I'm looking forward to getting to know other soap makers in Central NYS! CraigmyleOneontaOur members maphttp://.homestead.com/locations.htmlOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Check out these great Molds!!http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htmAll posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

[Guest guest]

hi ! I know what you mean about craft fairs being a lot of work- kinda how I feel! we do some lotion bars, lip balms, salt scrubs too, but so far only for special order or shows... not sure if we will really get into that as much!

sometimes I feel overwhelmed by all the possibilities!

-----Original Message-----From: Joe Murray [mailto:jmurray2@...]Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 2:18 PM Subject: Re: welcome

Hi leslie, and welcome to our group. My name's ( I go by M because

there's two 's in ou group). I'm not that far from you. I live down in Ilion.

Maybe you've been down this way before. Do you have a store in Oneonta or do you

do totally internet sales? Forget answering that - I just went to your website and

browsed around. Very nice!! The name of my business is "Indulgences by "

and I'm new within the past year. I only do M & P soap right now. I love the

creativity of it. I love the soap, too. I also do bath salts, lotion bars, lip balms,

bath fizzies and hope to add more soon. I don't have a website - I'm concentrating

on local stores right now. I did two small craft shows but decided I don't really

want to do them. I found them to be too much work. But some day I may change

my mind.

I think you'll enjoy our group. We're very layed-back. We talk about anything

and it doesn't have to be soaps or business. So don't be afraid just to chat. Well,

my soaproom is calling me. Take care.

M

Ilion

new to the group

Good afternoon,I just joined CNY Soapmakers and wanted to introduce myself. I'm Craigmyle and based in Oneonta. I own Chapin House Soap Company with myfriend, Lesley Bidwell. (www.chapinhouse.com)We've been making soap for a couple years and are still very enthusiasticabout it. - We do a few craft fairs a year, but mostly sell in some localstores.I'm looking forward to getting to know other soap makers in Central NYS! CraigmyleOneontaOur members maphttp://.homestead.com/locations.htmlOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Check out these great Molds!!http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htmAll posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

[Guest guest]

Boy, I agree with you about feeling overwhelmed with possibilities. I've

purchased so many supplies for things I want to try making and haven't

even gotten around to it yet. Some day......yeah, right.

Do you ever drive down to the Fly Creek Cider Mill? I was there yesterday.

I had a dr's. appointment at stown Clinic so I always make it a point

to stop in there. I LOVE THAT PLACE. I made the mistake of going in

there hungry yesterday. Boy, did I spend some money!! I love the things

in their gift shop, too.

Well, back to work....soaps to wrap.

M

RE: welcome

hi ! I know what you mean about craft fairs being a lot of work- kinda how I feel! we do some lotion bars, lip balms, salt scrubs too, but so far only for special order or shows... not sure if we will really get into that as much!

sometimes I feel overwhelmed by all the possibilities!

-----

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/12/2001 11:47:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Hi ,

Well so far we've done an endoscopy on him and discovered he had reflux and a rapid digestive system which we've been treating since 9/99, we've done yeast testing and have treated him for the yeast, we recently did our 4th test on him due to the news that chelation could cause yeast overgrowth and discovered some more that we've been treating for over 2 months. I know there's behavior problems with die off and he was exceedingly agressive for a couple of weeks but that abated. I don't know if the effects could still be ongoing after two months, do you? I too have been wondering if possibly his 2nd set of teeth are starting to come in since he'll be 8 in February and have made a dentist appt. How does one check for stones?

Thanks

zwack.peter@... writes:

Hi

Have you checked out the possibility that he has some medical problem that produces intermittent severe pain (gall stones, Kidney stones, toothache...etc). Research has shown that 50% of behavior problems in people who have difficulty communicating properly are due to medical problems (not food allergies, etc but normal medical problems).

A good functional behavioral analysis should also include medical investigations especially for people with limited communication skills.

[Guest guest]

Hi

Have you checked out the possibility that he has some medical problem

that produces intermittent severe pain (gall stones, Kidney stones,

toothache...etc). Research has shown that 50% of behavior problems in

people who have difficulty communicating properly are due to medical

problems (not food allergies, etc but normal medical problems).

A good functional behavioral analysis should also include medical

investigations especially for people with limited communication skills.

> Hi all, since I started this list, I guess I should be the first to write.

> I'm the mother of a 7 year old autistic boy, Nicky. He has a 5 year old

> brother and a 22 month old sister. His brother has been labeled

> communication impaired by the school district and receives speech therapy for

> minor speech problems but he and his sister are ok.

>

> Nicky was diagnosed at age 2.5 after much hasseling with his pediatrician

> (I'm sure all you parents know the " he's fine, just a little slow, he'll grow

> out of it..etc etc. story). He's been receiving services since then and is

> attending a specialized school in New Jersey plus I pay for a home therapist

> to come work with him 3 times per week. I've tried/been trying just about

> all educational, behavioral, and bio-medical approaches including .....ABA,

> Verbal Behavior Therapy, speech therapy, ot, pt, sensory integration,

> supplements, secretin, gf/cf, food allergie testing, homeopathy,

> neurofeedback, and chelation. Each has been successful in some way with the

> chelation and Verbal Behavior Therapy being the latest additions. Nicky's

> been to numerous doctors and had all sorts of tests and evaluations. And I'm

> always looking/investigating new ideas.

>

> That said, Nicky's made some major improvements and is constantly

> progressing. However he still has behaviors, which seem to increase and

> decrease at various degrees. He's usually a sweet, loving, friendly kid, then

> all of a sudden it's like a switch is turned on and he acts up. His current

> favorites: tantrumming, headbanging (broken 3 windows so far one at home and

> two at school), hitting, aggression towards others, screaming vs talking,

> weaving his head and getting this wild eye look.

>

> I know most if not all of you are experiencing similar things, hopefully

> sharing experiences/knowledge on this list will give us some new methods to

> use/things to try or at least the comfort of knowing we're not alone..

>

> Over the next few weeks I will be setting up files on behavior

> therapies/medical interventions I've tried and the success/failure I've had

> with them. If anyone has anything they'd like to add, please send to me and

> I will add to the files.

>

> Welcome again,

>

[Guest guest]

Hi and all,

I am Lois-Mom to AKA JJ who will be 14 on Monday. he is

small for his age- 75 pounds soaking wet. haha! He was always laid back

with his autism BUT when he hit 12 we went thru a rough year and a half

with anxiety, agression and crying for no known reason. I think it has

been pubeity that caused this. For the last 5 months or so he has been

doing a lot better and now has a great team at his school. I also have

a 29 year old son and a grandson age 6 who is fine. Thanks, Lois (JJsmom)

Lake260@... wrote:

Hi all,

since I started this list, I guess I should be the first to write.

I'm the mother of a 7 year old autistic boy, Nicky. He has a 5 year

old brother and a 22 month old sister. His brother has been labeled

communication impaired by the school district and receives speech therapy

for minor speech problems but he and his sister are ok.

Nicky was diagnosed at age

2.5 after much hasseling with his pediatrician (I'm sure all you parents

know the "he's fine, just a little slow, he'll grow out of it..etc etc.

story). He's been receiving services since then and is attending

a specialized school in New Jersey plus I pay for a home therapist to come

work with him 3 times per week. I've tried/been trying just

about all educational, behavioral, and bio-medical approaches including

......ABA, Verbal Behavior Therapy, speech therapy, ot, pt, sensory integration,

supplements, secretin, gf/cf, food allergie testing, homeopathy, neurofeedback,

and chelation. Each has been successful in some way with the

chelation and Verbal Behavior Therapy being the latest additions.

Nicky's been to numerous doctors and had all sorts of tests and evaluations.

And I'm always looking/investigating new ideas.

That said, Nicky's made some

major improvements and is constantly progressing. However he still

has behaviors, which seem to increase and decrease at various degrees.

He's usually a sweet, loving, friendly kid, then all of a sudden it's like

a switch is turned on and he acts up. His current favorites:

tantrumming, headbanging (broken 3 windows so far one at home and two at

school), hitting, aggression towards others, screaming vs talking, weaving

his head and getting this wild eye look.

I know most if not all of

you are experiencing similar things, hopefully sharing experiences/knowledge

on this list will give us some new methods to use/things to try or at least

the comfort of knowing we're not alone..

Over the next few weeks I

will be setting up files on behavior therapies/medical interventions I've

tried and the success/failure I've had with them. If anyone has anything

they'd like to add, please send to me and I will add to the files.

Welcome again,

[Guest guest]

, I have to say, your boy sounds like my 6 and 7 yr olds, especially my 6 yr old . With him, we have tried many things, and it works, but he's like a jekyl-hyde. He switches so quickly. He can be so loving, then he gets this look and boom, he goes off. My boys have put holes in our walls, broke several lamps, caused us plumbing bills when they stuffed stuff down our toilet. They have broken things, and the list goes on. They are better with all we are doing, but they still get wild at times. I look forward to seeing your files and gathering some new info. No matter how much we do or know, there is always something we haven't tried. We can all learn from each other. Thanks for starting this list, God bless, Sharon

[Guest guest]

Hi Kayte,

Nice to hear from you. It;so lovely to have someone who understands our

problems isn't it? I know quite a few people who have children with ds, but

it's a different kettle of fish altogether.

is a very loveable boy but also a very messy one. He wrecks the house

by tipping things up (especially water) and anything else he can get his

hands on , i.e. cereals - wet or dry, milk out of the fridge, cups of

coffee of tea. You name it, he will spill it. He never keeps his clothes

on and is often seen walking about outside. Imagine what everyone thinks.

Probably that we never dress him. He can say a few words but mostly food

orientated. He is obsessed with crisps and searches everyone's cupboards

whose houses we visit. He was doing very well with his toilet training but

has regressed lately and is having quite a few accidents, well maybe

accidents is not the word, I think he knows what he is doing he simply is

fascinated by it all.

-Lee has 3 brothers and 1 sister. 18, 16, 13,

and Katrina 21. As you can imagine, he's spoiled rotten.

How long have you known had autism? How's she doing? Fine I hope.

Look forward to hearing from you soon

Welcome

> Hello

> Just wanted to welcome you to the group. Look forward to hearing about

.

> Kayte, mum to nearly 6 ds/asd and Grace 20 mths in London

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am not an MD. However my stones were detected by an ultrasound.

My suggestion, however, was to really do a general medical workup.

In my case the gall bladder stones produced extreme pain after I ate

a meal with animal fats. It took up to 2 hours before the pain

occurred.

In a Functional Behavior Analysis, one should also write down what

and when the child eats to see if their is any relationship with a

food.

Another example: I developed migranes from time to time. By trying

to figure out what I did before the migrains, I discovered that they

were caused by a persvative, EDTA, in miracle whip and other

mayonaise type products. By avoiding foods with EDTA, I no longer

get migrains.

> How does one check for stones?

>Thanks

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi :

Welcome! I also have a 14-year-old son with OCD etc. although we

diagnosed him over four years ago. He also takes Celexa for his major

depressive disorder and it is working well. It seems to be helping to

drop his Paxil poundage - VBG!

We went to over a dozen docs before we found mental health

professionals who could help, and we already knew Steve has OCD, so

we weren't asking for a diagnosis! I would like to encourage you

to follow up to find E & RP treatment for your son. This has been so

important for our Steve. He still has symptoms, e.g. re-reading,

some tic-like gestures when he is O'ding (not ocding - VBG!) on the

computer, playing so many games.........On the other hand he has

gotten most of his life back from OCD and is making a surprisingly

smooth adjustment to high school as a freshman this last August.

Good luck,take care, aloha, kathy (h)

kathyh@...

> Yes, I am new.

> My son is 14 and was diagnosed a few months ago. I had suspected

for some time, but he finally asked for help. After an attempt at

therapy, he started Celexa and it has helped his anxiety a lot....now

until we can find a decent therapist, he is kind of on hold for now.

> Both the therapist and the psychiatrist (what a joke) we saw had

no clue as to what to do although they would certainly continue to

charge us while they figured it out.

>

> We live near Kearney and I have tried referrals, but the billing

laws in Nebraska have forced many therapists to move to other states.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Margaret,

Thank u for the answer. Tara is 6 years old and has DS she recently undergoing

nuero tests because I thought she had Autism features. The doctors think I am

correct and they are labeling it pdd. They also think think she may have Landau

Kleffner Syndrome which may be why she isn't speaking. I;m Not really sure

about the Landau but I am sure about the PDD. Tara is beautiful she is my world

my life besides my son who is 4. I sort of think about her future and worry

what is going to happen when I am not around?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/28/02 1:41:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ginageena@... writes:

> They also think think she may have Landau Kleffner Syndrome which may be why

> she isn't speaking.

Hi ,

It's my turn to ask what is Landau Kleffner Syndrome? Oh, and welcome to the

list. Isn't it great?

Diane

[Guest guest]

>>The original listowner here had a limit of 20 members to keep it small,

intimate, and safe for discussions. A poll of members recently showed they

wanted the list opened up with no limit. Since then we had a lot of members

signing up but not posting.<<

It's scary to jump in on a list where people obviously know each other and

have shared a bit.

This will probably sound completely nuts, but what gives me the hardest time

are " handles " . When I started using the computer people used their real

names. Well, at least things that *sounded like real names. It was much

easier to associate real people with those real names.

I have a hard time visualizing " ImSoBlond " or " MyDogHasFleas " as real

people. I also have a problem remembering names, and trying to associate

them through handles is nearly a lost cause!

> I'm 31, 2 kids, 2 parrots, a dog, a cat, 2 ferrets and a husband who drops

> by from time to time (he works a LOT).<<

Sounds as if you've got your hands full, especially with the kids an

ferrets. <<

The ferrets are easy. The parrots are a lot of work! I realized it was

time to make a change when I was feeding them better food than we were

eating. You know you're in trouble when you refuse your pets some of your

food because it's not healthy for them. <giggle>

>>My scale has been hovering between 250 - 256 for over a year now, no

matter

how low I drop calories or how much I increase exercise until I hurt myself

again. Yet I still plod on. At age 48 it's a lot harder to get rid of the

excess pounds, especially when they're been with me my entire life.<<

My big problem has been allergies. I lost 75 pounds nearly 10 years ago and

kept it off through MOST of that time, even after having another baby. Then

I started becoming allergic to...the earth. Nasal allergies made staying

inside during " fire season " (we have bad forest fires in the summer) almost

mandatory. Then I started developing exercise induced allergic reactions,

which limited my activity even more. I'd (and still do sometimes) break out

in hives just by washing a load of dishes or folding a load of laundry, and

the reactions got worse, not better. THEN I started developing food

allergies. Nuts are the scariest (peanuts AND tree nuts) so that cuts out a

lot of prepackaged foods.

ANYWAY, despite all of that I *still* need to lose the weight. My doctor

tried to shame me into it, which DOES NOT work. So I asked him what he

suggested, since he was so darned smart. " Eat less food. " <eyeroll> I was

down to one tiny meal a day. I could hardly eat *less*. I knew even then

that what I needed to do was to eat more.

>

> If I don't stop now I'll just go on forever.

Writing or gaining?<<

Yes<g>.

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> ANYWAY, despite all of that I *still* need to lose the weight. My doctor

tried to shame me into it, which DOES NOT work. So I asked him what he

suggested, since he was so darned smart. " Eat less food. " <eyeroll I was down

to one tiny meal a day. I could hardly eat *less*. I knew even then that what

I needed to do was to eat more.

> - Lemaster

>

Ya know... there's a reason that the only doctor I see unless I feel

like I'm about to die an ignomious death by drowning in snot is a

chiropractor. HRM. Could be because... most Doctors seem to come off

like idiots lately?

I think it has something to do with Insurance. They see the patient,

but never really get to know their quirks. What makes them different

from the 'norm' that would necessitate treating them with something

other than the 'standard' treatment :/

Then again, my gynecologist refered to naturopaths as 'quacks'. Funny,

but the herbal supplement I picked up at Whole Foods (after 3 months of

research, research, research, and recommendations from a friend whose

father sells his own herbal teas) did wonders, where every single OB/

GYN had failed.

I suppose that's also why I haven't bothered seeing a nutritionist,

either.

K.

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