Re: Lupus and liver flushes

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Patty: do you know what he is using for the flush? I have done gallbladder flushes with grapefruit juice and olive oil which flushes out gallstones, but I have not heard of stones in the liver.

Vickie

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>Subject: Lupus and liver flushes >Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:09:26 -0800 > >I was doing some research on the net about liver cleanses, and I thought this was very interesting. I will be doing some more liver flushes. I really don't look forward to them, as they are a bear! But I really think I need to do this. Hubby too. >http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=73 & i=395 > Subject: Lupus and the Liver > From: Bruce | All Bruce's Messages | > Date: 23:13 Aug 27 2002 (15 mon ago) R Recommended Message! > > > I was diagnosed with Lupus about two years ago. I spent 3 weeks at Mayo Clinic. I had severe arthritic symptoms, edema, vasculitis and blood clots in the legs and one lung. My ANA titer was 1:1,200 and I had positive double stranded DNA test. Several other blood test were also indicative of Lupus/Polyarthritis, which was the official diagnosis from Mayo. Interesteringly, my liver panel was completely normal. > > I was given Prednisone 20 mg and Plaquinil 400 mg daily. I got better for a few days, then started to regress. I had several occurances of high fevers (104 degrees) that would eventually return to normal during the night and would wake up the next morning with greatly improved symptoms. However, the improvement would last only a few hours. > > I derived from this that there was an active biological agent involved in my disease process (even though Mayo Dr.'s said they knew of no specific bacteria or virus that caused Lupus). My wife did some research and I began taking raw, fresh garlic (disulfides!) several times per day. What a great improvement! Over the months I added Olive Leaf, Oregano Oil, Grapefruit Seed Extract, Colloidal Silver and numerous other herbals (too many to mention here). These lead to great improvement. > > But, I was also noticing increasing discomfort in the liver area. I began doing Dr. s flushes about Feb. 2001. I have just completed my 27th flush and have gotten out an estimated 5,000-6,000 "stones" along with lots of chafe. About 3 months ago I was enough better to eliminate all RX drugs ( including Thyroid medication that I have been on for many years!). My recent blood test showed my ANA titer was down to 1:40! An awesome improvement. > > I have not yet had a flush that was without "stones" (soft, green/tan, "waxy" balls). I can feel the area of the liver they are coming from. Almost all of the pressure/discomfort in the liver area is gone now. But the process is not over. Not until I get 2-3 flushes without "stones." > > When I complete a flush, and before the stones from the more remote areas of the liver start moving again, I am completely free of all symptoms. When the stones start moving, mild symptoms return until I flush again. I am doing flushes now about 2-4 per month. > > I am convinced of the following (from my own experience) > > 1) Plugging of the billiary tree has caused years of digestive upset (along with gallblader removal -at age 21) > 2) The plugged billiary tree provided an isolated area for incubation of some biologic agent (mycobacterium?) that grew to a point that my body finally reacted to the infection (antibodies or toxin...I think the former). > 3) My Lupus and arthritis symptoms were the direct result of the plugged billiary tree and infection. > 4) The herbals mentioned above have been effective in mitigating the infection. > 5) My liver panel (blood tests) were never effective in diagnosing what was going on in the liver. > 6) Dr. s flushes are removing the "stones" (cholesterol/bile) and allowing the billiary tree to flush clear and free. > > So, this is still a work in progress. The "end" will come when I am able to get several flushes with no "stones" or "chafe." When that happens, I will redo the blood tests. I will see if everything is back to normal. I will report here when that happens...could be weeks or months. > > That's it for now. Great to have this site to share my experience with others who also know and are interested in Dr. s wonderful method. I don't think I would be here today if it were not for her. > > Sincerely, > > Bruce Buchanan > > > > Crave some Miles or Grateful Dead? Your old favorites are always playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free!

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Vickie,

The liver flush and gallbladder flush are basically the same thing. Check out this page:

http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/default.asp

There's pictures too.

I am not sure which recipe this guy used, but I would guess it is the olive oil/grapefruit juice, as he makes reference to Dr. 's liver flush, and that is the one I have posted in our archives, and the one I have done.

It is 1/2 cup of olive oil, 3/4 cup grapefruit juice, and then the epsom salts (4 doses from evening before to morning after), along with a short fast beforehand. Needless to say, drinking a half cup of olive oil mixed with grapefruit juice is just plain gross, but it works to flush these vital organs.

How did you feel after doing it?

Patty

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From: Vickie

Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:56 AM

Subject: Re: Lupus and liver flushes

Patty: do you know what he is using for the flush? I have done gallbladder flushes with grapefruit juice and olive oil which flushes out gallstones, but I have not heard of stones in the liver.

Vickie

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Patty, perhaps I have dabbled in this flush thing and didnt didnt know it. Dr mercola has had me on about 1/4 cup of olive oil per day in water, (drink it like a shot) and also 2 tbls of fish oil. Used to gross me out, now not anymore. The live cell guy and Mercola talk about how to increase raw fats as they act as lubricants to flush toxins out of organs. I said cool, Ill try it, seeing that I had alot of toxins. In a few years, I can go down to just my fish oil, and cocunt of course.

Hey: The live cell gut Jim, hes like 45, looks like 25! He drinks 1/4 of a bottle of olive oil per day. Like 10 ounces! Oh my Lord! But if you saw him, he looks great. Used to be a lawyer, now does this after combatting Chronic Fatigue Syndrome that he had for over 6 years, and now is healthy! Must be on to something with the good fats!. Amazing!

>From: "*~Patty~*"

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>Subject: Re: Lupus and liver flushes >Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:34:49 -0800 > >Vickie, >The liver flush and gallbladder flush are basically the same thing. Check out this page: >http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/default.asp > >There's pictures too. > >I am not sure which recipe this guy used, but I would guess it is the olive oil/grapefruit juice, as he makes reference to Dr. 's liver flush, and that is the one I have posted in our archives, and the one I have done. > >It is 1/2 cup of olive oil, 3/4 cup grapefruit juice, and then the epsom salts (4 doses from evening before to morning after), along with a short fast beforehand. Needless to say, drinking a half cup of olive oil mixed with grapefruit juice is just plain gross, but it works to flush these vital organs. > >How did you feel after doing it? >Patty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Vickie > > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:56 AM > Subject: Re: Lupus and liver flushes > > > Patty: do you know what he is using for the flush? I have done gallbladder flushes with grapefruit juice and olive oil which flushes out gallstones, but I have not heard of stones in the liver. > > Vickie > > From Beethoven to the Rolling Stones, your favorite music is always playing on MSN Radio Plus. No ads, no talk. Trial month FREE!

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Patty: Honestly, I felt like throwing up! It was gross going down, but I didnt notice any difference or any stones...guess I did something wrong. I did not use epsom salts maybe that is the difference. I will try it this weekend.

Thanks!

Vickie

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>Subject: Re: Lupus and liver flushes >Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:34:49 -0800 > >Vickie, >The liver flush and gallbladder flush are basically the same thing. Check out this page: >http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/default.asp > >There's pictures too. > >I am not sure which recipe this guy used, but I would guess it is the olive oil/grapefruit juice, as he makes reference to Dr. 's liver flush, and that is the one I have posted in our archives, and the one I have done. > >It is 1/2 cup of olive oil, 3/4 cup grapefruit juice, and then the epsom salts (4 doses from evening before to morning after), along with a short fast beforehand. Needless to say, drinking a half cup of olive oil mixed with grapefruit juice is just plain gross, but it works to flush these vital organs. > >How did you feel after doing it? >Patty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Vickie > > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:56 AM > Subject: Re: Lupus and liver flushes > > > Patty: do you know what he is using for the flush? I have done gallbladder flushes with grapefruit juice and olive oil which flushes out gallstones, but I have not heard of stones in the liver. > > Vickie > > Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95.* * Prices may vary by service area

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Now that's interesting! I wish we could hear his testimony! Will you ask him to write it, see what all he did to combat his CFS? I was wondering about all that olive oil, and if it maybe did bad things if we got too much of it, (you know, like age us, with all that science out there about oils going rancid and creating free radicals and all,) but I guess not, huh?

Patty

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From: JOSEPH PALANCA

Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:49 AM

Subject: Re: Lupus and liver flushes

Patty, perhaps I have dabbled in this flush thing and didnt didnt know it. Dr mercola has had me on about 1/4 cup of olive oil per day in water, (drink it like a shot) and also 2 tbls of fish oil. Used to gross me out, now not anymore. The live cell guy and Mercola talk about how to increase raw fats as they act as lubricants to flush toxins out of organs. I said cool, Ill try it, seeing that I had alot of toxins. In a few years, I can go down to just my fish oil, and cocunt of course.

Hey: The live cell gut Jim, hes like 45, looks like 25! He drinks 1/4 of a bottle of olive oil per day. Like 10 ounces! Oh my Lord! But if you saw him, he looks great. Used to be a lawyer, now does this after combatting Chronic Fatigue Syndrome that he had for over 6 years, and now is healthy! Must be on to something with the good fats!. Amazing!

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I don’t know Patty, I should ask Dr Mercola about the oils turning rancid. I know they have to be organic , and at room temp though. Ill ask Jim, but in the meantime Ill see if I can find his story Love

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From: *~Patty~*

Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:19 PM

Subject: Re: Lupus and liver flushes

Now that's interesting! I wish we could hear his testimony! Will you ask him to write it, see what all he did to combat his CFS? I was wondering about all that olive oil, and if it maybe did bad things if we got too much of it, (you know, like age us, with all that science out there about oils going rancid and creating free radicals and all,) but I guess not, huh?

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: JOSEPH PALANCA

Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:49 AM

Subject: Re: Lupus and liver flushes

Patty, perhaps I have dabbled in this flush thing and didnt didnt know it. Dr mercola has had me on about 1/4 cup of olive oil per day in water, (drink it like a shot) and also 2 tbls of fish oil. Used to gross me out, now not anymore. The live cell guy and Mercola talk about how to increase raw fats as they act as lubricants to flush toxins out of organs. I said cool, Ill try it, seeing that I had alot of toxins. In a few years, I can go down to just my fish oil, and cocunt of course.

Hey: The live cell gut Jim, hes like 45, looks like 25! He drinks 1/4 of a bottle of olive oil per day. Like 10 ounces! Oh my Lord! But if you saw him, he looks great. Used to be a lawyer, now does this after combatting Chronic Fatigue Syndrome that he had for over 6 years, and now is healthy! Must be on to something with the good fats!. Amazing!