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But your still working out allot compared to what most people

do. I totally disagree with the idea that you should not work out

period. I have never ever read anywhere either holistic or otherwise

that anyone should totally stop working out. Maybe not to excess, oh

sure that I agree with, but it is a HUGE mistake to not do anything,

really huge and I don't think we can ever get totally well without

exercise, i know I would not be where I am today without it. I

believe there needs to modifications for people with chronic illness,

but just laying in bed almost always will make the illness

worse.Sometimes I get so frustrated because I want so badly to help

others.I guess I just know that I was as sick as they come and how

far I have gotten. It was the exericse I know it was, that got me

well, esp the blood work, I am 100% convinved the blood work returned

to normal due to the exercise. I guess I can only tell my story and

hope that others will at least try to take some of my advice.

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are you angry at me for something or is anger at the whole

thing that I hear in your post? I am not trying to make you angry so

I hope I did not do something to upset you. I am only guessing it was

working out that helped make my blood work get normal, I just cannot

think of what else it was that helped since I never did any of this

antibitoic stuff or much of anything else serious every day other

than exercise. I tried allot of different detox stuff but I never

stuck with it like I did with working out. Anyhow I just know the

blood work got better. I think that you had implants allot longer

than I did so maybe that is part of it. I hope you continue to

improve.

take care

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I actually should clarify this, I am more convinced that the explant

is what helped the bloodwork return to normal, but if I had to say

what else I did the most to help it would be working out on a steady

basis. I did not have implants very long, only 18 months, and i

reacted right away to them, so I don't know if that has anything to

do with anything, but I did get so ill so fast, within 3 months.

One of the faster ones to react to the implants for sure, that I have

met. My ana's were very high prior to explant and for about 6 months

after, then they started going down and have remained down for the

last 2 or so years.

I cannot believe it has already been almost 3 years now that I was

explanted! It will be 3 years on December 8th.

In , " naturalbeauty38 "

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> are you angry at me for something or is anger at the whole

> thing that I hear in your post? I am not trying to make you angry

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> I hope I did not do something to upset you. I am only guessing it

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> working out that helped make my blood work get normal, I just

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> think of what else it was that helped since I never did any of this

> antibitoic stuff or much of anything else serious every day other

> than exercise. I tried allot of different detox stuff but I never

> stuck with it like I did with working out. Anyhow I just know the

> blood work got better. I think that you had implants allot longer

> than I did so maybe that is part of it. I hope you continue to

> improve.

> take care

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> In , " JOSEPH PALANCA "

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I just want to say that you are absolutely correct in that you must

keep moving. For many reasons--strength, flexibility, cardiac

function, blood flow etc. I think we can all do something. Even if

it is just walking around the block. Even at my worst, I tried to

do something. People with active fms and cfs just can't exercise

vigorously. Gentle stretching and very low impact

exercise may be all they can do and they shouldn't feel guilty

because the other kind is actually detrimental in certain

conditions. Like you pointed out people with fms get microscopic

muscle tears ---though no one knows why.

I hope someday to be able to get back to normal exercise levels!

Things for your input on how different people can heal in different

ways.

kathy

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Actually i wanted to point out that all people get muscle tears when

lifting weights, it is the healing part that causes muscle growth,

hence why muscles get bigger after time of lifting weights, in people

with fms and cfs these tears may not heal, which is why wieghtlifting

can be detrimental to these people, and I think that it is because

the people with FMS and CFS often do not get the right kind of sleep,

where the body is able to heal, thus it is almost impossible when you

have these conditions chronically and are flaring, to be able to do

strenuous lifting, I was there once so I know how that hurt, it was

horrible! I never thought I would lift wieghts again either, ever!

That was only 2 years ago. When I first got my gym membership here in

Idaho I told my husband I would probably never be able to lift, only

to do the cardio stuff, but it changed rapidly for me. I just kept on

giving it a try and seeing howing I reacted and eventually I just

kept at it because it was feeling good. I agree that NO ONE should

ever feel guilty for not working out, but I also hate to see people

give up or not try, on a daily basis to do something ! I know for me

I never gave up and I have gotten great benefits from that. The worse

thing anyone can do is lay around, the muscle will waste away and

turn flabby and weak. No one should let that happen, but no one

should take in more than they can, however when it comes to

exercising it is really important to push yourself to do something.

hugs

C

In , " mikat828 " <mikat828@y...> wrote:

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> I just want to say that you are absolutely correct in that you must

> keep moving. For many reasons--strength, flexibility, cardiac

> function, blood flow etc. I think we can all do something. Even

if

> it is just walking around the block. Even at my worst, I tried to

> do something. People with active fms and cfs just can't exercise

> vigorously. Gentle stretching and very low impact

> exercise may be all they can do and they shouldn't feel guilty

> because the other kind is actually detrimental in certain

> conditions. Like you pointed out people with fms get microscopic

> muscle tears ---though no one knows why.

> I hope someday to be able to get back to normal exercise levels!

> Things for your input on how different people can heal in different

> ways.

> kathy

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