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Hi Ladies, I got my implants in August of 1999. Does anyone know if

they were FDA approved then? They were smooth saline made by

Mentor.

Do we have any legal recourse? I'm sure I signed some sort of

release, but I don't think they told me anything about all the auto-

immune illnesses. I thought it was just about having to have more

surgery for capsular contracture and stuff like that.

Anybody know?

Pam...counting down to explant!!!

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Pam,

Saline implants didn't receive formal approval by the FDA until May of 2000. I was one who testified against the use of saline implants in March 2000 at the FDA Advisory panel, which was a meeting much like the one that was just held in October for approval of silicone gel implants. It was a devastating blow when the FDA went ahead and approved saline implants--the first time in history any breast implant had received the FDA "stamp of approval." I believe it was this landmark approval that gave the manufacturer's the desire to push for approval of silicone gel. Almost everyone agrees that silicone gel implants are much more natural feeling than salines, and I do believe that plastic surgeons are eager to use gels again, even though they've been doing it underhandedly for years, regardless of the ban against them.

Before the FDA approval of salines, implants were "grandfathered" in, meaning that they were already in use before the FDA had the authority to regulate medical devices, so they didn't have to jump through any formal procedure hoops. Then in 1992, the big controversy really hit when the FDA actually banned silicone gel for general cosmetic use when hundreds of thousands of women filed suit against Dow, blaming their silicone gel implants for various autoimmune type illnesses. Since that time, the controversy over the safety of implants has been a raging battle, but mostly behind the scenes, as the media seems to favor just showing the glamour and glitz associated with them, and researchers, mostly funded by Dow and other implant manufacturers, have skewed the studies in their favor to help them win their legal battles. We have Dr. Zuckerman to thank for helping to shed the light on just how these studies have been flawed, and how in fact, more recent unbiased studies have shown increases in certain cancers and fibromyalgia as well as suicide among implant recipients.

Those of us who have been harmed have been trying to let the truth be known, but it has been a hard uphill climb, because of the interests of those with huge financial interests in keeping implants on the market. They want nothing more than for us to go away. They've done a good job of keeping medical professionals from giving our illnesses any credibility, and I am sure there are huge numbers of sick women out there that have no idea it is their implants making their life hell.

As for our legal options, we really don't have any legal recourse at all. (Those implanted before June 1993 may still have some legal options.) Doctors are very careful to have every implanted woman sign her rights away when she gets implants. Basically you state that you understand that implants are experimental in nature and that you will not hold the doctor responsible or the manufacturer responsible for anything......something along those lines....but at any rate, it covers them, and leaves you hanging if you should get sick. Not only that, lawyers now know that the manufacturers have found out how to win in court (with all the studies supposedly clearing implants of any implication in disease), and are unwilling to take on any cases. Just finding a lawyer is hard enough. Bottom line is that the manufacturers and doctors win, and we lose all the way around. It's a gross injustice, incredible in this day of lawsuits and medical malpractice. Implants are one of the biggest crap products of the century, and yet common sense has flown out the window with them. (It's because it's boobs we're dealing with, and men making the decisions....!)

Let us know when you are set for your surgery!

Patty

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From: Pam

Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 1:58 PM

Subject: Were Saline Implants FDA approved in 1999? Can we litigate?

Hi Ladies, I got my implants in August of 1999. Does anyone know if they were FDA approved then? They were smooth saline made by Mentor. Do we have any legal recourse? I'm sure I signed some sort of release, but I don't think they told me anything about all the auto-immune illnesses. I thought it was just about having to have more surgery for capsular contracture and stuff like that.Anybody know? Pam...counting down to explant!!!

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Patty, I had no idea my implants weren't FDA approved! I'm going to

ask for a copy of my file to include the " release " I signed. I

didn't keep any of it. I remember saying " what do I need that stuff

for, it's not like I can take them back! "

I know that there's got to be so many women out there that just don't

know that it's their implants making them sick. I was one of them

just a short time ago. I got sick 3 months after getting them and it

took me another 4 years to figure it out. I consider myself or I

should say considered myself a pretty intelligent person before all

this. I should have realized it back then. O well, there's a reason

for everything, right?

I'd like to write my personal story, how can I do that and get it

posted?

Thanks Patty, you're the best!

Pam

> Pam,

> Saline implants didn't receive formal approval by the FDA until May

of 2000. I was one who testified against the use of saline implants

in March 2000 at the FDA Advisory panel, which was a meeting much

like the one that was just held in October for approval of silicone

gel implants. It was a devastating blow when the FDA went ahead and

approved saline implants--the first time in history any breast

implant had received the FDA " stamp of approval. " I believe it was

this landmark approval that gave the manufacturer's the desire to

push for approval of silicone gel. Almost everyone agrees that

silicone gel implants are much more natural feeling than salines, and

I do believe that plastic surgeons are eager to use gels again, even

though they've been doing it underhandedly for years, regardless of

the ban against them.

>

> Before the FDA approval of salines, implants were " grandfathered "

in, meaning that they were already in use before the FDA had the

authority to regulate medical devices, so they didn't have to jump

through any formal procedure hoops. Then in 1992, the big

controversy really hit when the FDA actually banned silicone gel for

general cosmetic use when hundreds of thousands of women filed suit

against Dow, blaming their silicone gel implants for various

autoimmune type illnesses. Since that time, the controversy over

the safety of implants has been a raging battle, but mostly behind

the scenes, as the media seems to favor just showing the glamour and

glitz associated with them, and researchers, mostly funded by Dow and

other implant manufacturers, have skewed the studies in their favor

to help them win their legal battles. We have Dr. Zuckerman to thank

for helping to shed the light on just how these studies have been

flawed, and how in fact, more recent unbiased studies have shown

increases in certain cancers and fibromyalgia as well as suicide

among implant recipients.

>

> Those of us who have been harmed have been trying to let the truth

be known, but it has been a hard uphill climb, because of the

interests of those with huge financial interests in keeping implants

on the market. They want nothing more than for us to go away.

They've done a good job of keeping medical professionals from giving

our illnesses any credibility, and I am sure there are huge numbers

of sick women out there that have no idea it is their implants making

their life hell.

>

> As for our legal options, we really don't have any legal recourse

at all. (Those implanted before June 1993 may still have some legal

options.) Doctors are very careful to have every implanted woman

sign her rights away when she gets implants. Basically you state

that you understand that implants are experimental in nature and that

you will not hold the doctor responsible or the manufacturer

responsible for anything......something along those lines....but at

any rate, it covers them, and leaves you hanging if you should get

sick. Not only that, lawyers now know that the manufacturers have

found out how to win in court (with all the studies supposedly

clearing implants of any implication in disease), and are unwilling

to take on any cases. Just finding a lawyer is hard enough. Bottom

line is that the manufacturers and doctors win, and we lose all the

way around. It's a gross injustice, incredible in this day of

lawsuits and medical malpractice. Implants are one of the biggest

crap products of the century, and yet common sense has flown out the

window with them. (It's because it's boobs we're dealing with, and

men making the decisions....!)

>

> Let us know when you are set for your surgery!

>

> Patty

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Pam

>

> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 1:58 PM

> Subject: Were Saline Implants FDA approved in

1999? Can we litigate?

>

>

> Hi Ladies, I got my implants in August of 1999. Does anyone know

if

> they were FDA approved then? They were smooth saline made by

> Mentor.

>

> Do we have any legal recourse? I'm sure I signed some sort of

> release, but I don't think they told me anything about all the

auto-

> immune illnesses. I thought it was just about having to have

more

> surgery for capsular contracture and stuff like that.

>

> Anybody know?

>

> Pam...counting down to explant!!!

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Hi Pam,

I had my Mentor smooth salines put in in July of 2001. At this

time, I did know that they were FDA approved...and thus, I thought

they were absolutely " safe " . I signed a waiver along with everyone

else. However, the whole " waiver " thing is just to deter people

from sueing...it does not in any way legally prevent ANYONE from

sueing. I had learned this in college, but it was confirmed through

talking with my lawyer. As for all of the legal matters, I'm not

going to give up....probably ever. The issue is too important and

women's lives are continuously being ruined. I have a personal

attorney who is helping me locate a firm who would be willing to

take on the case. The issue with our breast implant case is that it

will be extremely costly to try. So law firms are wanting us to get

a group of women together (so far the numbers have been between 15

and 50) and try the case like that. I am still doing my research,

but this will be the first place I go if a lawyer gives me the task

of finding other women who are willing to litigate.

So, there's always hope,

Kacey

> > Pam,

> > Saline implants didn't receive formal approval by the FDA until

May

> of 2000. I was one who testified against the use of saline

implants

> in March 2000 at the FDA Advisory panel, which was a meeting much

> like the one that was just held in October for approval of

silicone

> gel implants. It was a devastating blow when the FDA went ahead

and

> approved saline implants--the first time in history any breast

> implant had received the FDA " stamp of approval. " I believe it

was

> this landmark approval that gave the manufacturer's the desire to

> push for approval of silicone gel. Almost everyone agrees that

> silicone gel implants are much more natural feeling than salines,

and

> I do believe that plastic surgeons are eager to use gels again,

even

> though they've been doing it underhandedly for years, regardless

of

> the ban against them.

> >

> > Before the FDA approval of salines, implants

were " grandfathered "

> in, meaning that they were already in use before the FDA had the

> authority to regulate medical devices, so they didn't have to jump

> through any formal procedure hoops. Then in 1992, the big

> controversy really hit when the FDA actually banned silicone gel

for

> general cosmetic use when hundreds of thousands of women filed

suit

> against Dow, blaming their silicone gel implants for various

> autoimmune type illnesses. Since that time, the controversy over

> the safety of implants has been a raging battle, but mostly behind

> the scenes, as the media seems to favor just showing the glamour

and

> glitz associated with them, and researchers, mostly funded by Dow

and

> other implant manufacturers, have skewed the studies in their

favor

> to help them win their legal battles. We have Dr. Zuckerman to

thank

> for helping to shed the light on just how these studies have been

> flawed, and how in fact, more recent unbiased studies have shown

> increases in certain cancers and fibromyalgia as well as suicide

> among implant recipients.

> >

> > Those of us who have been harmed have been trying to let the

truth

> be known, but it has been a hard uphill climb, because of the

> interests of those with huge financial interests in keeping

implants

> on the market. They want nothing more than for us to go away.

> They've done a good job of keeping medical professionals from

giving

> our illnesses any credibility, and I am sure there are huge

numbers

> of sick women out there that have no idea it is their implants

making

> their life hell.

> >

> > As for our legal options, we really don't have any legal

recourse

> at all. (Those implanted before June 1993 may still have some

legal

> options.) Doctors are very careful to have every implanted woman

> sign her rights away when she gets implants. Basically you state

> that you understand that implants are experimental in nature and

that

> you will not hold the doctor responsible or the manufacturer

> responsible for anything......something along those lines....but

at

> any rate, it covers them, and leaves you hanging if you should get

> sick. Not only that, lawyers now know that the manufacturers have

> found out how to win in court (with all the studies supposedly

> clearing implants of any implication in disease), and are

unwilling

> to take on any cases. Just finding a lawyer is hard enough.

Bottom

> line is that the manufacturers and doctors win, and we lose all

the

> way around. It's a gross injustice, incredible in this day of

> lawsuits and medical malpractice. Implants are one of the biggest

> crap products of the century, and yet common sense has flown out

the

> window with them. (It's because it's boobs we're dealing with,

and

> men making the decisions....!)

> >

> > Let us know when you are set for your surgery!

> >

> > Patty

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: Pam

> >

> > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 1:58 PM

> > Subject: Were Saline Implants FDA approved in

> 1999? Can we litigate?

> >

> >

> > Hi Ladies, I got my implants in August of 1999. Does anyone

know

> if

> > they were FDA approved then? They were smooth saline made by

> > Mentor.

> >

> > Do we have any legal recourse? I'm sure I signed some sort of

> > release, but I don't think they told me anything about all the

> auto-

> > immune illnesses. I thought it was just about having to have

> more

> > surgery for capsular contracture and stuff like that.

> >

> > Anybody know?

> >

> > Pam...counting down to explant!!!

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