Re: Babara: Dr Mercola's Comments on MS

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I just had my thyroid tested yesterday so I will know in 3 weeks when I go to the Dr. I also did a saliva progesterone test and my progesterone is low and my estrogen is normal. I havent had a period since I stopped the pill 7 months ago. One dr. told me that I'm not getting my period because I am way too skinny. I was thinking about using the natural progesterone cream before I take any other pills they want to give me to briing my cycle on. I try to cut back on the grains but since I have done that I lost all this weighs, and also the stress and stopping the pill made me lose the weight too. I try to limit the grains to brown rice, spelt, millet and ezekial bread.

Barbara

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I've also had some MS like symptoms early in my illness that frightened me, and even though they are gone now, I can bring them back with large amounts of green juices and sometimes eating too much of a certain food. This idea that symptoms can be a sign that the myelin sheaths are repairing themselves is an interesting one. Mostly my most frustrating symptom that will return is the stupid brain fog. Oh, if I could get rid of that forever!

I also wanted to make a comment about the dairy, which I agree with him totally about. I have only bought raw milk cheese for years now. I wish I could find a source for raw milk, but there's nobody here in Vegas that I know about. For others who are interested in the idea of getting full value of nutrients from dairy, I would suggest this website:

http://www.realmilk.org/

and here is a link for sources for raw milk products:

http://www.realmilk.com/where2.html

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: JOSEPH PALANCA

Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:53 PM

Subject: Babara: Dr Mercola's Comments on MS

At the end here he discusses progesterone repairing myelin sheaths, the very nerve conductive pathways that are destroyed with this disease. I know when I went on progesterone -I had all these MS like symptoms, (that’s when I was tested again) that have now resolved themselves. Dr Mercola doesn’t know if it was because I became hyperthyroid (as progesterone helps your thyroid to function, and I had to cut back on my meds-which was great) or if it was my myelin sheaths repairing themselves, and so I would notice some symptoms worsening as they were healing. Hmm, who knows for sure. But it has helped a great deal in all other areas.. Just a thought. Love julie

MS is a very challenging problem to treat. There are no simple solutions. However this study suggests that lowering your food intake may help.

I suspect this may be largely related to normalization of insulin levels, and it is likely that the elimination of grains and sugars from the diet was the reason why investigators noted improvements in the above study.

Following a healthy diet is, of course, also key, along with eating right for your Metabolic Type.

Optimization of your vitamin D levels is also of primary importance as many studies suggest. You should NOT guess at your vitamin D levels; I highly recommend serial blood tests to help you maintain your vitamin D level around 50.

In my experience with MS patients there is nearly always a precipitating traumatic emotional event that causes the immune system to crash. Clearly, issues related to this event need to be addressed.

Fortunately, there are many tools to help you do that. Many of you know that I use EFT, personally and in my practice, for this purpose. Because MS is such a serious challenge I would not advise using EFT for MS by yourself, but rather only as a supplement to a trained EFT practitioner. Dr. Carrington has compiled some guidelines on selecting an EFT therapist, followed by a list of EFT practitioners throughout the U.S. and world. Many of these therapists even offer a free 15-minute phone session in which you can ask them questions to see if you connect.

Also consider these other helpful approaches for MS:

1. Elimination of pasteurized milk and dairy is important for most people. Studies have shown that cow's milk consumption is correlated with MS prevalence. Many people will tolerate RAW dairy, however.

2. Calcium AEP--Although I don't know of any good studies on it, the late Dr. Nieper in Germany used it extensively in his clinic, and Dr. Atkins in New York City claims that 85 percent of his patients get positive results from it. Although there is an oral form available, most physicians use an IV administration. I have not tried it yet but might enter a clinical investigation with it in the near future.

3. Electromagnetic Stimulation of the Pineal Gland--There is a Dr. Reuven Sandyk in the NYC area who uses AC pulsed electromagnetic fields to stimulate the pineal gland, and he seems to get some very good results. The treatment is very expensive and must be done long-term, however, and due to the prohibitively expensive equipment, Dr. Sandyk's clinic is probably the only place that offers this treatment.

4. Alpha Lipoic Acid--A study from the Netherlands showed that Lipoic acid is a non-specific scavenger of Reactive Oxygen Species and has decreased the phagocytosis of myelin by macrophages. Free radicals appear to play a regulatory role in the destruction of myelin (Journal of Neuroimmunology 1998 Dec 1;92:67-75).

5. Progesterone--Progesterone has been shown in animal studies to promote the formation of new myelin sheaths (Human Reproduction 2000 Jun;15 Suppl 1:1-13, J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol 1999 Apr-Jun;69:97-107, Mult Scler 1997 Apr;3:105-12). I am not aware of any clinicians using progesterone the treat MS patients.

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can you send me the name of Dr. lees book

thanks,

barbara

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Barbara, I would def go on the progesterone cream fist. It makes alot of women go off their thyroid hormone, or cut it back. Get Dr Lees book, and go according to his direstions for your issues, and I would retest in 4 cycles. It usually takes that long to balance defecient progesterone lelels. It would be by that time, you would see if your thyroid needs have changed( Ialmost guarantee they will, my did as well as both my friends on it) It has really worked for me in that area. Another thing, my periods are great now. Immediatly after the 1st month, I have had normal cycles every 27 days I used to have very sporatic cycles since getting sick. It works like the pill, in that regard. I have also stopped losing hair, and it has gotten alot of shine, fullness and grown two inches this month! (I know this as I have highlights, and need a touch up like now, I have so much roots, usually it akes about 2 to 3 months to touch up- my hairstylist cant believe it! ) Joint pain almost gone, clearer thinking too. Give it a try first, and then retest in 4 months to see if you will need thyroid then. I wished I would have at 4 months, as I was extremely hyper thyroid after 7 months on it, and was in danger for permanent damage. I have went to half my dosage now that I was taking over for 2 years. Amazing stuff. Get his book though, it helps alot for every question. I have referred to it on a weekly basis for the last 6 months.Love

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Patty . .

Have you tried goat's milk instead of cow's milk? . . . When I started the Garden of Life products, I found cow's milk was upsetting my stomach . . . Walmart carries goat's milk . . .kinda $$$ but, I think, it's delicious!

Rogene*~Patty~* <fdp@...> wrote:

,

I've also had some MS like symptoms early in my illness that frightened me, and even though they are gone now, I can bring them back with large amounts of green juices and sometimes eating too much of a certain food. This idea that symptoms can be a sign that the myelin sheaths are repairing themselves is an interesting one. Mostly my most frustrating symptom that will return is the stupid brain fog. Oh, if I could get rid of that forever!

I also wanted to make a comment about the dairy, which I agree with him totally about. I have only bought raw milk cheese for years now. I wish I could find a source for raw milk, but there's nobody here in Vegas that I know about. For others who are interested in the idea of getting full value of nutrients from dairy, I would suggest this website:

http://www.realmilk.org/

and here is a link for sources for raw milk products:

http://www.realmilk.com/where2.html

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: JOSEPH PALANCA

Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:53 PM

Subject: Babara: Dr Mercola's Comments on MS

At the end here he discusses progesterone repairing myelin sheaths, the very nerve conductive pathways that are destroyed with this disease. I know when I went on progesterone -I had all these MS like symptoms, (that’s when I was tested again) that have now resolved themselves. Dr Mercola doesn’t know if it was because I became hyperthyroid (as progesterone helps your thyroid to function, and I had to cut back on my meds-which was great) or if it was my myelin sheaths repairing themselves, and so I would notice some symptoms worsening as they were healing. Hmm, who knows for sure. But it has helped a great deal in all other areas.. Just a thought. Love julie

MS is a very challenging problem to treat. There are no simple solutions. However this study suggests that lowering your food intake may help.

I suspect this may be largely related to normalization of insulin levels, and it is likely that the elimination of grains and sugars from the diet was the reason why investigators noted improvements in the above study.

Following a healthy diet is, of course, also key, along with eating right for your Metabolic Type.

Optimization of your vitamin D levels is also of primary importance as many studies suggest. You should NOT guess at your vitamin D levels; I highly recommend serial blood tests to help you maintain your vitamin D level around 50.

In my experience with MS patients there is nearly always a precipitating traumatic emotional event that causes the immune system to crash. Clearly, issues related to this event need to be addressed.

Fortunately, there are many tools to help you do that. Many of you know that I use EFT, personally and in my practice, for this purpose. Because MS is such a serious challenge I would not advise using EFT for MS by yourself, but rather only as a supplement to a trained EFT practitioner. Dr. Carrington has compiled some guidelines on selecting an EFT therapist, followed by a list of EFT practitioners throughout the U.S. and world. Many of these therapists even offer a free 15-minute phone session in which you can ask them questions to see if you connect.

Also consider these other helpful approaches for MS:

1. Elimination of pasteurized milk and dairy is important for most people. Studies have shown that cow's milk consumption is correlated with MS prevalence. Many people will tolerate RAW dairy, however.

2. Calcium AEP--Although I don't know of any good studies on it, the late Dr. Nieper in Germany used it extensively in his clinic, and Dr. Atkins in New York City claims that 85 percent of his patients get positive results from it. Although there is an oral form available, most physicians use an IV administration. I have not tried it yet but might enter a clinical investigation with it in the near future.

3. Electromagnetic Stimulation of the Pineal Gland--There is a Dr. Reuven Sandyk in the NYC area who uses AC pulsed electromagnetic fields to stimulate the pineal gland, and he seems to get some very good results. The treatment is very expensive and must be done long-term, however, and due to the prohibitively expensive equipment, Dr. Sandyk's clinic is probably the only place that offers this treatment.

4. Alpha Lipoic Acid--A study from the Netherlands showed that Lipoic acid is a non-specific scavenger of Reactive Oxygen Species and has decreased the phagocytosis of myelin by macrophages. Free radicals appear to play a regulatory role in the destruction of myelin (Journal of Neuroimmunology 1998 Dec 1;92:67-75).

5. Progesterone--Progesterone has been shown in animal studies to promote the formation of new myelin sheaths (Human Reproduction 2000 Jun;15 Suppl 1:1-13, J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol 1999 Apr-Jun;69:97-107, Mult Scler 1997 Apr;3:105-12). I am not aware of any clinicians using progesterone the treat MS patients.

Related Articles:.mercola.com/2003/feb/12/starvation_diet.htm

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Rogene,

I've read that goat's milk is much better and easier for us to digest than cows milk. I think I may have bought a carton or two from the store, but I haven't found organic yet, and I don't want it homogenized or pasteurized either. I guess the best thing would be to find someone with goats who sells raw goat milk! (Not very likely here in Vegas, huh?) At least I can find raw milk cheese, which is really about the only dairy products I eat anyway, in very small amounts. I was raised in dairy country, but to tell you the truth, I can hardly stand to drink milk or eat ice cream anymore. Yogurt and cheese, rarely, and that is about it.

I've been reading the book "Nourishing Traditions" by Sally Fallon, and she has really piqued my interest in cultured and fermented foods, including cultured dairy. It is the culturing that breaks down the casein (the milk protein and culprit in many allergies to dairy), making the nutrients in milk products more available and beneficial to us, including all the probiotics. I'd love to make some of my own kefir with raw milk!

Great book....really gets back to basics and discusses what has happened to our food supply. And chock full of great recipes!

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: Rogene S

Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 8:23 PM

Subject: Re: Babara: Dr Mercola's Comments on MS

Patty . .

Have you tried goat's milk instead of cow's milk? . . . When I started the Garden of Life products, I found cow's milk was upsetting my stomach . . . Walmart carries goat's milk . . .kinda $$$ but, I think, it's delicious!

Rogene

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I drink this wonderful milk that we get from the dairy across the

street from where we live, it is al hormone free, but it is not raw,

I love it, their skim milk is thick too, not watery like most and I

cannot recall what they do to it to keep it that way, I feel so

blessed to live near this dairy, though we can really smell the cows

on some days hee hee

In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote:

> Patty . .

>

> Have you tried goat's milk instead of cow's milk? . . . When I

started the Garden of Life products, I found cow's milk was upsetting

my stomach . . . Walmart carries goat's milk . . .kinda $$$ but, I

think, it's delicious!

>

> Rogene

>

> *~Patty~* <fdp@l...> wrote:

> ,

> I've also had some MS like symptoms early in my illness that

frightened me, and even though they are gone now, I can bring them

back with large amounts of green juices and sometimes eating too much

of a certain food. This idea that symptoms can be a sign that the

myelin sheaths are repairing themselves is an interesting one.

Mostly my most frustrating symptom that will return is the stupid

brain fog. Oh, if I could get rid of that forever!

>

> I also wanted to make a comment about the dairy, which I agree with

him totally about. I have only bought raw milk cheese for years

now. I wish I could find a source for raw milk, but there's nobody

here in Vegas that I know about. For others who are interested in

the idea of getting full value of nutrients from dairy, I would

suggest this website:

> http://www.realmilk.org/

>

> and here is a link for sources for raw milk products:

>

> http://www.realmilk.com/where2.html

>

> Patty

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: JOSEPH PALANCA

>

> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:53 PM

> Subject: Babara: Dr Mercola's Comments on MS

>

>

> At the end here he discusses progesterone repairing myelin

sheaths, the very nerve conductive pathways that are destroyed with

this disease. I know when I went on progesterone -I had all these MS

like symptoms, (that's when I was tested again) that have now

resolved themselves. Dr Mercola doesn't know if it was because I

became hyperthyroid (as progesterone helps your thyroid to function,

and I had to cut back on my meds-which was great) or if it was my

myelin sheaths repairing themselves, and so I would notice some

symptoms worsening as they were healing. Hmm, who knows for sure. But

it has helped a great deal in all other areas.. Just a thought. Love

julie

>

> MS is a very challenging problem to treat. There are no simple

solutions. However this study suggests that lowering your food intake

may help.

>

> I suspect this may be largely related to normalization of insulin

levels, and it is likely that the elimination of grains and sugars

from the diet was the reason why investigators noted improvements in

the above study.

>

> Following a healthy diet is, of course, also key, along with eating

right for your Metabolic Type.

>

> Optimization of your vitamin D levels is also of primary importance

as many studies suggest. You should NOT guess at your vitamin D

levels; I highly recommend serial blood tests to help you maintain

your vitamin D level around 50.

>

> In my experience with MS patients there is nearly always a

precipitating traumatic emotional event that causes the immune system

to crash. Clearly, issues related to this event need to be addressed.

>

> Fortunately, there are many tools to help you do that. Many of you

know that I use EFT, personally and in my practice, for this purpose.

Because MS is such a serious challenge I would not advise using EFT

for MS by yourself, but rather only as a supplement to a trained EFT

practitioner. Dr. Carrington has compiled some guidelines on

selecting an EFT therapist, followed by a list of EFT practitioners

throughout the U.S. and world. Many of these therapists even offer a

free 15-minute phone session in which you can ask them questions to

see if you connect.

>

>

>

> Also consider these other helpful approaches for MS:

>

> 1. Elimination of pasteurized milk and dairy is important for most

people. Studies have shown that cow's milk consumption is correlated

with MS prevalence. Many people will tolerate RAW dairy, however.

>

> 2. Calcium AEP--Although I don't know of any good studies on it,

the late Dr. Nieper in Germany used it extensively in his clinic, and

Dr. Atkins in New York City claims that 85 percent of his

patients get positive results from it. Although there is an oral form

available, most physicians use an IV administration. I have not tried

it yet but might enter a clinical investigation with it in the near

future.

>

> 3. Electromagnetic Stimulation of the Pineal Gland--There is a Dr.

Reuven Sandyk in the NYC area who uses AC pulsed electromagnetic

fields to stimulate the pineal gland, and he seems to get some very

good results. The treatment is very expensive and must be done long-

term, however, and due to the prohibitively expensive equipment, Dr.

Sandyk's clinic is probably the only place that offers this treatment.

>

> 4. Alpha Lipoic Acid--A study from the Netherlands showed that

Lipoic acid is a non-specific scavenger of Reactive Oxygen Species

and has decreased the phagocytosis of myelin by macrophages. Free

radicals appear to play a regulatory role in the destruction of

myelin (Journal of Neuroimmunology 1998 Dec 1;92:67-75).

>

> 5. Progesterone--Progesterone has been shown in animal studies to

promote the formation of new myelin sheaths (Human Reproduction 2000

Jun;15 Suppl 1:1-13, J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol 1999 Apr-Jun;69:97-

107, Mult Scler 1997 Apr;3:105-12). I am not aware of any clinicians

using progesterone the treat MS patients.

>

> Related Articles:

> .mercola.com/2003/feb/12/starvation_diet.htm

>

>