magnets

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Lyndell, can you direct me to or Tom to acquire a magnet, please?

Hickman.

On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:22:25 -0800 Lyndell <lyn@...> writes:

>From: Lyndell <lyn@...>

>

>Tom has magnets for sale, by the way, and they are inexpensive and

>>high quality.

>>

>>

>>God Bless,

>>

>>

>++++

>

>Magnets are something I've not gotten into - have been swamped!

>However, I

>know they are used on tumor sites. I'm very conservative " far-out " --

>in

>other words, not far-out in MY opinion - only other people's!

>I'm

>interested in the magnetic theories but have not yet begun the

>journey.

>Perhaps now is the time? Lyn

>

>

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Dear Tom:

I'm jumping in on the discussion between you and as I am interested in

magnets, and I understand if improperly used can prove dangerous. Do you have

a newsletter or pamphlet that tells how to use them, what sizes needed for

example. My wife is paralyzed from a stroke and I've heard magnets might

prove helpful. Any info appreciated. Thanks manson

[Guest guest]

Dear , I just posted to Tom for more info and would like to also know the

cost of the magnets as well as how to use them Manson

[Guest guest]

If you don't find magnets anywhere, perhaps I can help.

reply only to the address below.

bobratliff@...

> [OxyPLUS] Re: Magnets

>

>

> From: " H. Hickman " <ghreport@...>

>

> Lyndell, can you direct me to or Tom to acquire a magnet, please?

> Hickman.

>

>

> On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:22:25 -0800 Lyndell <lyn@...> writes:

> >From: Lyndell <lyn@...>

> >

> >Tom has magnets for sale, by the way, and they are inexpensive and

> >>high quality.

> >>

> >>

> >>God Bless,

> >>

> >>

> >++++

> >

> >Magnets are something I've not gotten into - have been swamped!

> >However, I

> >know they are used on tumor sites. I'm very conservative " far-out " --

> >in

> >other words, not far-out in MY opinion - only other people's!

> >I'm

> >interested in the magnetic theories but have not yet begun the

> >journey.

> >Perhaps now is the time? Lyn

> >

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

This post is to all the list members interested in magnets.

About 5 years ago, I used some magnetic products from a company called

Nikken. Their products are very specific in design. This is how they

work.

Imagine looking at a bullseye target. Then imagine the alternating

rings to be alternating poles + - + - + - + - and so forth. When

these magnets were placed over an injury or afflicted area, the blood

flow was affected so as to INCREASE the flow INTO the affected area.

This is how it worked: The positive and negative ions in the blood,

when crossing the alternating polarities, would work in a zig-zag

effect, basically bouncing back and forth off the walls of the blood

vessel, causing the blood vessel to actually enlarge itself and allow

more blood to be carried farther into the area. By increasing the blood

flow AND the oxygen into the affected area, one was able to better

cleanse the blood and remove the toxins while promoting healing.

I know this may sound " hokey " to some of the list members, but I can

vouch for the effectiveness of these particular magnets. I even bought

a matress pad for my bed. The pad has several hundred magnets in a huge

T-shape. After only a few nights sleep I could tell a significant

difference in both the quality of my sleep and the relief of pain in my

lower back and legs.

This company has magnetic products of ALL sizes.......from the size of a

silver dollar to mattress pads of all sizes. They also have veterinary

and equine products. The small ones can be attached to your skin with

Band-Aids or medical tape. If you are truly interested in magnetic

therapy, you owe it to yourself to check this out. It is a company that

originated in Japan and has had GREAT success here in America

http://www.nikken.com

I truly hope this information helps someone.

Warmly,

Teal

[Guest guest]

At 21:13 12.02.99 -0500, you wrote:

>From: Teal <luxurylady@...>

>

>This post is to all the list members interested in magnets.

>

I have also heard a lot of positive stories about NIKKEN.

The only problem is price. That is negative.

Dusan Stojkovic

Norway

[Guest guest]

<<< are magnets for pain or fatigue. remember mezmer? >>>

i think they're for pain. what's mezmer?

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debbie s. - dlsherman@...

[Guest guest]

Mesmer was ( and I am sure I did not spell his name right in the previous

message) a18 th century french alienist (shrink) who thought he could cure

mental illness may waving magnets around the

afflicted. Hence the term mesmerize.

" Debbie S. " wrote:

> From: dlsherman@... (Debbie S.)

>

> <<< are magnets for pain or fatigue. remember mezmer? >>>

>

> i think they're for pain. what's mezmer?

>

> @}{~{<<~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> debbie s. - dlsherman@...

>

> > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

[Guest guest]

<<< are magnets for pain or fatigue. remember mezmer? >>>

Well, actually I get both. I get relief from aches and agonies, but I

also use the sleep system to get into a good, deep sleep and this helps with

exhaustion as well. I still get tired eventually, but I think a lot of us

would rejoice in being able to go for 16 or 18 hours at a time before

needing to lie down. Most days that's what I do. Occaisionally I will take a

mid-day nap of 1 or 2 hours, but not often. This is a major improvement over

the way my life used to be.

>Mesmer was ( and I am sure I did not spell his name right in the previous

message) a18 th century french alienist (shrink) who thought he could cure

mental illness may waving magnets around the

>afflicted. Hence the term mesmerize.

>

Many people are skeptical about the magnets and think it must be " all in

your head " . I was no different to start. Even if it was only placebo, if it

got me moving and feeling better, I'd still do it. However, aside from my

own and many others' experiences, these products help babies and animals,

and that just can't be a placebo.

Happy Holidays,

Theresa

[Guest guest]

> A friend of mine loaned me a magnetic

> mattress pad because he said it helped him sleep. I

> only lay on it

> for an hour or so to test it out and got a huge

> reaction. Very hyper

> and wired for a few hours, then crashed. Surprised

> the hell out of

> me as I thought it might help a little or do

> nothing. I had to give

> it back as it was much too strong for me.

Same thing happened to me, made me much worse.

Magnets sound 'hokey', but there is science behind why

they work for pain (inflammatory type pain).

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[Guest guest]

I tried the Japanese magnet mattress and it disturbed my

sleep even more. I was told it would IMPROVE my sleep.

Well it didn't....it made it worse. I gave up after a month.

Lucky for me it was on loan from my sister.

M. Louis

Re: Re: Magnets

>

> > A friend of mine loaned me a magnetic

> > mattress pad because he said it helped him sleep. I

> > only lay on it

> > for an hour or so to test it out and got a huge

> > reaction. Very hyper

> > and wired for a few hours, then crashed. Surprised

> > the hell out of

> > me as I thought it might help a little or do

> > nothing. I had to give

> > it back as it was much too strong for me.

>

> Same thing happened to me, made me much worse.

> Magnets sound 'hokey', but there is science behind why

> they work for pain (inflammatory type pain).

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Hi.

<< > A friend of mine loaned me a magnetic

> mattress pad because he said it helped him sleep. I

> only lay on it

> for an hour or so to test it out and got a huge

> reaction. Very hyper

> and wired for a few hours, then crashed. Surprised

> the hell out of

> me as I thought it might help a little or do

> nothing. I had to give

> it back as it was much too strong for me. >>

I had the opportunity to try out a magnetic mattress pad and pillow. The pad

was a little wider than a lounger pad and I figured I'd by rolling off it all

night because I move around alot. Well, to my surprise, not only did I stay

on it, but I had the best sleep I'd had in years. The first week was great.

The second not so good and then it just quit working.

I also noticed that a couple hours after getting up it seemed the energy

drained out of me. Good thing I didn't have to pay the $900+ and keep it!

From what I've heard, magnets do have effects, but not long lasting.

Take care.......Sue

[Guest guest]

HI all -

My chiropractor had me wear a magnetic pad around my

back after my lumbar injury. It helped the pain but

made me nauseous and gave me a metallic taste in my

mouth. I had to stop using it.

Best, Jennie

--- honda4fun@... wrote:

> Hi.

>

> << > A friend of mine loaned me a magnetic

> > mattress pad because he said it helped him sleep.

> I

> > only lay on it

> > for an hour or so to test it out and got a huge

> > reaction. Very hyper

> > and wired for a few hours, then crashed.

> Surprised

> > the hell out of

> > me as I thought it might help a little or do

> > nothing. I had to give

> > it back as it was much too strong for me. >>

>

> I had the opportunity to try out a magnetic mattress

> pad and pillow. The pad

> was a little wider than a lounger pad and I figured

> I'd by rolling off it all

> night because I move around alot. Well, to my

> surprise, not only did I stay

> on it, but I had the best sleep I'd had in years.

> The first week was great.

> The second not so good and then it just quit

> working.

>

> I also noticed that a couple hours after getting up

> it seemed the energy

> drained out of me. Good thing I didn't have to pay

> the $900+ and keep it!

> From what I've heard, magnets do have effects, but

> not long lasting.

>

> Take care.......Sue

>

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[Guest guest]

It is important to use a Magnetico mattress which has only a negative

charge. The positive charged ones are stimulating and best only for healing

small sites on the body. I stabilized my sleep cycle when I hand none--no

schedule, just random long naps. Worked immediately. Still could use more

sleep, but I'm not crazy now.

At 11:50 PM 5/30/00 -0700, you wrote:

>I tried the Japanese magnet mattress and it disturbed my

>sleep even more. I was told it would IMPROVE my sleep.

>Well it didn't....it made it worse. I gave up after a month.

>Lucky for me it was on loan from my sister.

>

>M. Louis

>

>

> Re: Re: Magnets

>

>

>>

>> > A friend of mine loaned me a magnetic

>> > mattress pad because he said it helped him sleep. I

>> > only lay on it

>> > for an hour or so to test it out and got a huge

>> > reaction. Very hyper

>> > and wired for a few hours, then crashed. Surprised

>> > the hell out of

>> > me as I thought it might help a little or do

>> > nothing. I had to give

>> > it back as it was much too strong for me.

>>

>> Same thing happened to me, made me much worse.

>> Magnets sound 'hokey', but there is science behind why

>> they work for pain (inflammatory type pain).

>>

>>

>>

>> __________________________________________________

>>

[Guest guest]

Where did you find this info? What is a Magnetico mattress?

Phil

Hess wrote:

> It is important to use a Magnetico mattress which has only a negative

> charge. The positive charged ones are stimulating and best only for healing

> small sites on the body. I stabilized my sleep cycle when I hand none--no

> schedule, just random long naps. Worked immediately. Still could use more

> sleep, but I'm not crazy now.

>

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

> >>

> >>erested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

[Guest guest]

Phil,

Try looking it up, I don't have the info now.

At 12:12 PM 6/8/00 -0400, you wrote:

>

>

>Where did you find this info? What is a Magnetico mattress?

>

>Phil

>

> Hess wrote:

>

>> It is important to use a Magnetico mattress which has only a negative

>> charge. The positive charged ones are stimulating and best only for healing

>> small sites on the body. I stabilized my sleep cycle when I hand none--no

>> schedule, just random long naps. Worked immediately. Still could use more

>> sleep, but I'm not crazy now.

>>

>>

>>

>> --------------------------------------------------------------------

>> >>

>> >>erested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hello Phil,

I deal in Nikkon too and it worked wonders for my fibromyalgia when I

had a sleep system and I went on to study n=magnets in depth as I

readh Phillpots work but also some of Rawls and and it seems

that their bi-polar design when all is said and done may be superior

to negative pole alone as the body is not unipolar we have a positive

and negative polarity,

I also have loved the far-infrared comforters. But I have a half

dozen books from differen authors on magnets, and I am gaining a

great deal of understanding of how they work Nikkens stuff is just

fine'

Barb

Wednesday, January 24, 2001, 22:49:28, you wrote:

PC> thanks so much for this post. I am using magnets for back pain and am

PC> reading up on the subject. I would like to buy a magnetic sleeping

PC> system but am not sure whose to use. Also tried a magnetic water system

PC> actually the Pi system and it did help me feel better with my CFS. While

PC> I am a Nikken distributor(so I can buy at wholesale) I am stil not

PC> convinced of the superiority of their design and wonder about their

PC> multipolar design when Dr Philpott I believe recommends unipolar. These

PC> links are great. Thanks again

PC> Phil

PC> Message: 17

PC> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 01:23:51 -0500

PC> From: Bill Kingsbury <kingsbry@...>

PC> Subject: Re: magnet sources?

PC> wendy wrote:

>> I am wondering where I would go to obtain magnets? I have

>> noticed that alot of you use them as part of your healing.

PC> Biomagnetics Laboratories

PC> http://www.magnetizer.com

PC> Inexpensive rare earth magnets

PC> http://www.wondermagnet.com/dev/index.html

PC> Tools for Exploration

PC> http://www.tools4explore.com/

PC> Magnet Sales and Manufacturing

PC> http://www.magnetsales.com/

PC> Magnet Therapy -- Coghill Research Laboratories Ltd

PC> http://www.cogreslab.co.uk/mag_therapy.htm

PC> Buryl Payne - healing with magnets

PC> http://www.buryl.com

PC> Magnetic sleep pads -- 6 month money-back quarantee.

PC> http://www.magneticosleep.com

PC> Magnetico Sleep Pad - Science

PC> http://www.magneticosleep.com/science.htm

PC> Magnetic therapy for sleep

PC> http://sleepdisorders.about.com/library/weekly/aa052100a.htm

PC> Magnetic therapy for Immortality

PC> http://www.alexchiu.com/

PC> Magnetic Field Therapy

PC> http://library.advanced.org/24206/magnetic-field-therapy.html

PC> Magnetics and Far Infrared Page...

PC> http://www.health-today.net/magnets.htm

PC> Academy of Magnetic Therapy 5th Annual Convention

PC> http://www.drlawrence.com/toc.htm

PC> Magnetic therapy

PC> http://healingtools.tripod.com/magnet.html

PC> Bio-Magnetic Stimulators

PC> http://healingtools.tripod.com/BMS.html

PC> Magnet therapy URLs

PC> http://www.quackwatch.com/04ConsumerEducation/QA/magnet.html

PC> Geophysical Data Center -- This site has a remarkable program called

PC> GEOMAG that calculates the earth's magnetic field at your geographic

PC> location. Run it online and input your latitude and longitude.

PC> If you don't know these, then there is a link that will tell you.

PC> GEOMAG can also calculate the magnetic field values for past years.

PC> (The field values are given in nano telsa = 10^-5 gauss.

PC> Thus 500 milli gauss = 0.5 gauss = 50,000 nt.)

PC> http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/seg/potfld/geomag.html

PC> Geomagnetic Field Synthesis Program Input Form

PC> http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/seg/gmag/fldsnth1.pl

PC> ph Kirschvink -- Magnetogeobiologist,

PC> geomagnetic sensitivity in animals

PC> http://www.gps.caltech.edu/faculty/kirschvink/

PC> ELECTROMAGNETISM & LIFE, by O. Becker and A. Marino

PC> http://www.ortho.lsumc.edu/faculty/Marino/EL/ELTOC.html

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[Guest guest]

I, personally, would avoid a " sleep system " as I would avoid treating burns

with fire.

I know of a couple, in England, distributors both, who slept on such a

system - the woman is now dead, from cancer, and her husband just turned to

have the same type of cancer, too...

Ronen.

Re: magnet sources?

wendy wrote:

> I am wondering where I would go to obtain magnets? I have

> noticed that alot of you use them as part of your healing.

Biomagnetics Laboratories

http://www.magnetizer.com

Inexpensive rare earth magnets

http://www.wondermagnet.com/dev/index.html

Tools for Exploration

http://www.tools4explore.com/

Magnet Sales and Manufacturing

http://www.magnetsales.com/

Magnet Therapy -- Coghill Research Laboratories Ltd

http://www.cogreslab.co.uk/mag_therapy.htm

Buryl Payne - healing with magnets

http://www.buryl.com

Magnetic sleep pads -- 6 month money-back quarantee.

http://www.magneticosleep.com

Magnetico Sleep Pad - Science

http://www.magneticosleep.com/science.htm

Magnetic therapy for sleep

http://sleepdisorders.about.com/library/weekly/aa052100a.htm

Magnetic therapy for Immortality

http://www.alexchiu.com/

Magnetic Field Therapy

http://library.advanced.org/24206/magnetic-field-therapy.html

Magnetics and Far Infrared Page...

http://www.health-today.net/magnets.htm

Academy of Magnetic Therapy 5th Annual Convention

http://www.drlawrence.com/toc.htm

Magnetic therapy

http://healingtools.tripod.com/magnet.html

Bio-Magnetic Stimulators

http://healingtools.tripod.com/BMS.html

Magnet therapy URLs

http://www.quackwatch.com/04ConsumerEducation/QA/magnet.html

Geophysical Data Center -- This site has a remarkable program called

GEOMAG that calculates the earth's magnetic field at your geographic

location. Run it online and input your latitude and longitude.

If you don't know these, then there is a link that will tell you.

GEOMAG can also calculate the magnetic field values for past years.

(The field values are given in nano telsa = 10^-5 gauss.

Thus 500 milli gauss = 0.5 gauss = 50,000 nt.)

http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/seg/potfld/geomag.html

Geomagnetic Field Synthesis Program Input Form

http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/seg/gmag/fldsnth1.pl

ph Kirschvink -- Magnetogeobiologist,

geomagnetic sensitivity in animals

http://www.gps.caltech.edu/faculty/kirschvink/

ELECTROMAGNETISM & LIFE, by O. Becker and A. Marino

http://www.ortho.lsumc.edu/faculty/Marino/EL/ELTOC.html

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Hello Mike,

Well i did not have an easy way of doing it and at the time I was very

confused about south vs north pole and all. But I have worn a number

of neck collars with magnets in them, my first one I made using my

cervical collar and radio shack magnets but I used on the negative

side. I also did homeopathics, and was seeing a chiropractor at that

time who was a kinesiologist and several other specialties but he was

not in to magnets. I had neck x-rays taken then and have slept on the

negative magnetic pillow pad I have off and on for 2 years, more off

than not as it is a piece of crap, some generic brand I bought and it

is flimsy and slides all over the place or wads up into a rumpled

uncomfortable mess. I can only say my neck feels better, but have no

x-rays since 5 years ago almost six. I have to say I do have more

neck movement now and less pain, a lot more movement actually it is

still pretty stiff. but that seems to be backing off. I hope to try

alternating magentic fields to along with high doses of magnesium to

get the discs to regrow. I swear my body needs more maintenance than

a used car.... I need more time and freedom and a larger budget to

pursue these things for myself and others to fund research and so on.

But hey...we are all working on it. I will put updates out here for

you as they occur.

barb

Monday, January 29, 2001, 14:31:45, you wrote:

MEC> Barb

MEC> Can you tell us the results of magnet therapy for your cervical disc

MEC> problems. If magnets can actually regenerate this tissue, then, in

MEC> combination with Prolotherapy to rebuild and strengthen the supportive

MEC> ligaments and tendons, we can keep the whole length of our spines (and

MEC> all other bones and joints) strong and robust forever!

MEC> Corny

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Ronen wrote:

>

> Ohhh... barb - NOW you allowed me to venture on a path I love so much to

> tread...

> I'd love to, but I would like to make sure such a discussion shall not

> bother others on the list. Shall we take it off - list?

No way, I don't want to miss this!

But if I'm outnumbered, how about putting it on the oxy-off topic list?

Oxyplus_OffTopicegroups

Hm-m-m, looks like that will now have to be found at .

Count me in wherever this goes!

Sharon

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Ronen.

[Guest guest]

To make it short, and without too much details - I've seen tissue re-grow,

old scars disappear (including old fractures scars on bones), cartilage

re-growth (eliminating need of surgery), tendon heal, disks heal, hair

re-growth, prostate restored to health (including functioning), and even

nerve re-generation.

Magnet therapy (as I think about it, which may differ from other's opinions)

can be very effective, especially together with water, oxygen, supplement

and dietary treatments. Sometimes, it's sufficient to assist the body in

becoming basic (chemistry - the reverse of acidic) and to sleep well, and

better health follows immediately.

Ronen.

Oh, another thing, Barb:

You said:

....I swear my body needs more maintenance than a used car....

I really, really don't want to pounce on the issue, as I got quite fond of

you (not to mention appreciating) during our fight(?), but I WOULD take that

remark as a sign that there is an issue of reduced vitality at work here.

Why not try something else? Or in addition?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/30/01 1:47:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jmedlen@... writes:

<< In one of hte many junkie catalogs I have I found a can of magnetized

paint. I also learned that the magnetic poetry people (magnetipoet.com?)

sell this too. >>

Joan'

Can you try this again? I can't get there. :-( Thanks,

Gail

[Guest guest]

I've looked at medical journal abstracts on PubMed, and not found any

study that suggested magnets were of any value for CFS/FM or chronic

pain. One of the studies looked at magnet effects on circulation. Poor

circulation is one of the causes of pain. The article is at:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\

s=11568935 & dopt=Abstract

I suggest that any magnetic device you buy should come with a money back

guarantee if it does not help you. I've heard some folks say magnets

helped some, but it does not seem to be documented in trials.

Larry

s Johan Saugstad wrote:

>

> I have heard that some CFS patients have been treated with magnets. Some

> of them have become remarkably better. Do any of you know anything about

> this? Any articles online about this you could recommend?

>

> Yours,

> s

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

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Here is another study of magnets for Fibro...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\

s=11246937 & dopt=Abstract

Larry

s Johan Saugstad wrote:

>

> I have heard that some CFS patients have been treated with magnets. Some

> of them have become remarkably better. Do any of you know anything about

> this? Any articles online about this you could recommend?