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Hey Molly!

Keep up the good work - but do try to atleast snack on an apple or something!

lol

I want to tell everyone - I am SO proud of myself! lol

My MOST favorite thing in the WORLD is Pizza and Nachos.

A guy in our church ordered Pizza for the kids in our Christian school, and I

sat there, like a good litttle girl - and did not eat ONE bite! I only ate my

salad!!!!!

I promised myself that I was going to go 90 days with NOTHING but fruits,

veggies, raw nuts & seeds, and 3 oz of cheese a day, and every Tuesday we eat at

Applebees (kids eat fr,.ee! lol)

and so I can have a shrimp spinach salad there. That is ALL - no other meats at

all, and just that once a week. I started April 1, so I am at 30 days today :)

But I have NEVER had the willpower to do that - I have ALWAYS said - well, just

this once - I mean - it was GIVEN to me, etc - whatever excuse~ lol

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I actually had most of an apple last night .

Molly : O )

>

> Hey Molly!

>

> Keep up the good work - but do try to atleast snack on an apple or

something! lol

>

> I want to tell everyone - I am SO proud of myself! lol

> My MOST favorite thing in the WORLD is Pizza and Nachos.

> A guy in our church ordered Pizza for the kids in our Christian

school, and I sat there, like a good litttle girl - and did not eat

ONE bite! I only ate my salad!!!!!

>

> I promised myself that I was going to go 90 days with NOTHING but

fruits, veggies, raw nuts & seeds, and 3 oz of cheese a day, and

every Tuesday we eat at Applebees (kids eat fr,.ee! lol)

> and so I can have a shrimp spinach salad there. That is ALL - no

other meats at all, and just that once a week. I started April 1, so

I am at 30 days today :)

>

> But I have NEVER had the willpower to do that - I have ALWAYS

said - well, just this once - I mean - it was GIVEN to me, etc -

whatever excuse~ lol

>

>

>

> Laurie Delk

> (931) 380-8811

> http://www.bestreferralsystemonline.com/1999 - Triple Your

Business In 2007!

> Attend A Free Live Online Seminar That Teaches You A Keep-In-Touch-

System for customers, clients, patients and prospects...

> http://BMDEnterprises.net - Web, Postcard, Business Card Design

> http://Arbonne.com - Arbonne (email me for 35% off) - ID 16221373 -

(healthy makeup)

> http://CandleOfTheMonth.net - Scent Sations Mia Bella Candles -

(healthy candles)

> http://AHealthyHouse.net (email me for 35% off)- FreeLife/Dr.

Mindell (Author: The Vitamin Bible) - (healthy body, pets and home)

> http://ILoveCards.net (send 10 cards for $10 including stamp!)-

Send Out Cards - (healthy relationships)

> http://OrderJerkyDirect.com - Jerky Direct - (healthy jerky)

> http://JoinTheSolution.com/bmd - Switch to Solar - save $25k in 25

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steph, i may be wrong but i think the mms is only supposed to be good for a few

hrs after mixing... if it's working though..what can i say but that's great!

wes

WOW

A great report on MMS concerning my white dove!!!

I have a white dove I rescued about a year ago. She was very sick when

I took her home, full of an incurable form of e-coli which was diagnosed

by the state lab. (bird e-coli specific to birds). I have been keeping

her alive with various things over the year or more that I have had her

using biotic silver, ozone water, and other alternatives. She is all

puffed up in the rear end and in all the 30 years I have been caring for

doves and pigeons I have NEVER been able to save a bird in this

condition with this much infection for very long.

Well, yesterday late in the afternoon I gave her a first TINY dose of

MMS. I mixed six drops and put it into 8 ounces of water. OF that

water mix, I gave her only 1 cc. The next morning her droppings looked

really awful. So this morning I gave her another 1 cc of the same mix

and again two hours later 1 cc of the same mix and no plans to give her

any more until tomorrow. Well it is just noon and she has already had

her first NORMAL looking dropping that is well formed and nice and

golden brown instead of nasty green. This is impressive. She is

showing no signs of being sick from the MMS and is looking more

energetic and alert. Will keep you bird owners posted on how she does

over the long haul. I am concerned about giving her the lemon juice

but hopefully it will not do her any harm. Maybe switching to vinigar

now and then might help. Anyway, I am seeing results already after

just three tiny tiny doses!!!

YAY!

Steph

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Yes I was aware of that Wes, and so I used it within two hours of mixing

it. However, what I still do not understand is that the pigeon supply

company that sells the chlorine dioxide by the gallon, says to just mix

it in the birds water and let them have the same water to drink

throughout the day. Also it does not have to be activated. So what

do you think about that? Steph

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I totally understand your fears here. My first

reaction was to think the worst. I guess I was lucky

in the fact that from the time I first had symptoms,

to when I could not swallow anything, to finding a

great doctor, to getting a Heller's Myotomy, took less

than a year. I swallow real well now, sometimes I

need the help of a big glass of water. It is normal

to have fears of the worst, but there are a lot of

options out there short of having your esophogus

removed. Let me know if you have any questions.

Vinnie

--- kare4266 <guerralkml@...> wrote:

> Although I may have had Achalasia since 2002, I was

> just

> diagnosed " unofficially " based upon my 2002

> monometry test and

> symptoms. I am really worried after reading all the

> posts over the

> last couple of weeks. Did all of you start with just

> pain in your

> back and chest from spasms and then it progressively

> develop into

> the severe swallowing problems a lot of you are

> having. I am having

> mild swallowing problems now along with the pain in

> back and chest.

> I feel sometimes like there is a something in the

> middle of my

> throat. But I can still eat most foods, some with a

> little

> difficulty. I am so afraid that I too will end up

> progressing to the

> point all of you have. I know we are all different

> and our symptoms

> are all different. But it is frightening to think of

> what lies

> before me. Can this just progress until you get to

> the point that

> you have to have the esophagus removed, is that what

> the ectomy is

> that you are speaking of? How do you eat after that?

> I have always

> been a very active, fit and pretty healthy person. I

> have two young

> daughters. I can't stand the thought that the rest

> of my life will

> be spent everyday suffering and being consumed by

> this. I want to be

> there for my girls, be active and be the best mom I

> can and live a

> normal healthy life like everyone else. This is

> really depressing.

>

>

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Hi, I have just read you email, and having just been through an oesophagectomy successfully for achalasia, and being now able to eat and drink normally there are a few things i think you should be aware of. I think you are jumping the gun a little here. You may end up having an oesophagectomy at some time in the future, but in the meantime you have a lot of living to do. Yes, you will be the best mum to your girls, and you will live your life to the best of your ability, but in the meantime there may be some hiccups along the way. The thing with achalasia is that it gradually gets worse - so that you don't notice it so much - your body is gradually able to eat fewer foods. But there is hope. You may have a myotomy (which really helps some people for a long time), or after that there is always Botox (which got me through another 6 years) before you get to

the oesophagectomy stage. So in the meantime enjoy your life for what you have now. Don't let this disease get the better of you because then it has won. Don't dwell on the what might happens and concentrate on enjoying what you have - not what you don't have. Believe me it would be a lot worse to find out you have cancer of the oesophagus than achalasia. So, go and cuddle your girls and give your husband a good cuddle as well - and appreciate that you can do that and will be able to do that for a long time to come. All the best Deb from Melbourne Australiakare4266 <guerralkml@...> wrote: Although I may have had Achalasia since 2002, I was just diagnosed "unofficially" based upon my 2002 monometry test and symptoms. I am really worried after reading all the posts over the last couple of weeks. Did all of you start with just pain in your back and chest from spasms and then it progressively develop into the severe swallowing problems a lot of you are having. I am having mild swallowing problems now along with the pain in back and chest. I feel sometimes like there is a something in the middle of my throat. But I can still eat most foods, some with a little difficulty. I am so afraid that I too will end up progressing to the point all of you have. I know we are all different and our symptoms are all different. But it is frightening to think of what lies

before me. Can this just progress until you get to the point that you have to have the esophagus removed, is that what the ectomy is that you are speaking of? How do you eat after that? I have always been a very active, fit and pretty healthy person. I have two young daughters. I can't stand the thought that the rest of my life will be spent everyday suffering and being consumed by this. I want to be there for my girls, be active and be the best mom I can and live a normal healthy life like everyone else. This is really depressing.

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Hi Kare - first the basics, what's your name and where do you live?

Don't be freaked out by everything you read here. I'm one of those

scheduled for an -ectomy but understand that I've had A since 1980-

ish and had a myotomy with fundo in 1989. I've had about 18 good

years from my first surgery and honestly, if the internet had been

around then, I'd probably still be good. One advantage you have is

that you have the internet to research and us to learn from so you

can get the best treatment from the best doctors. I didn't know any

better in 1989 and had the wrong kind of fundo from a doctor that had

only done a handful at best. Not that I'm complaining - I've had a

pretty good 18 years.

10, 15 or 20 years from now, who knows? Maybe they'll develop enough

stem cell research where we'll just grow all new shiny E's and then

no one will have A anymore~~

Let us know where you are and what treatments you are looking at - we

can help guide you to the best treatments at the best hospitals so

that you can get the best results.

I also have 2 girls, both pregnancies with A but it really doesn't

affect me much in the day to day. they don't even know that I have

anything wrong.

We're here to help so please use us. Sorry you have A but glad you

found this site.

Happy Swallowing!

- in NC

-soon to no longer have Achalasia

>

> Although I may have had Achalasia since 2002, I was just

> diagnosed " unofficially " based upon my 2002 monometry test and

> symptoms. I am really worried after reading all the posts over the

> last couple of weeks. Did all of you start with just pain in your

> back and chest from spasms and then it progressively develop into

> the severe swallowing problems a lot of you are having. I am having

> mild swallowing problems now along with the pain in back and chest.

> I feel sometimes like there is a something in the middle of my

> throat. But I can still eat most foods, some with a little

> difficulty. I am so afraid that I too will end up progressing to

the

> point all of you have. I know we are all different and our symptoms

> are all different. But it is frightening to think of what lies

> before me. Can this just progress until you get to the point that

> you have to have the esophagus removed, is that what the ectomy is

> that you are speaking of? How do you eat after that? I have always

> been a very active, fit and pretty healthy person. I have two young

> daughters. I can't stand the thought that the rest of my life will

> be spent everyday suffering and being consumed by this. I want to

be

> there for my girls, be active and be the best mom I can and live a

> normal healthy life like everyone else. This is really depressing.

>

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,

Thank you for the information and encouragement. I really do

appreciate it. I have gotten a lot of insight just from joining this

support group. I have been trying to research insurance as quickly

as possible and trying to check into doctors before I have any tests

done or treatment.

> >

> > Although I may have had Achalasia since 2002, I was just

> > diagnosed " unofficially " based upon my 2002 monometry test and

> > symptoms. I am really worried after reading all the posts over

the

> > last couple of weeks. Did all of you start with just pain in

your

> > back and chest from spasms and then it progressively develop

into

> > the severe swallowing problems a lot of you are having. I am

having

> > mild swallowing problems now along with the pain in back and

chest.

> > I feel sometimes like there is a something in the middle of my

> > throat. But I can still eat most foods, some with a little

> > difficulty. I am so afraid that I too will end up progressing to

> the

> > point all of you have. I know we are all different and our

symptoms

> > are all different. But it is frightening to think of what lies

> > before me. Can this just progress until you get to the point

that

> > you have to have the esophagus removed, is that what the ectomy

is

> > that you are speaking of? How do you eat after that? I have

always

> > been a very active, fit and pretty healthy person. I have two

young

> > daughters. I can't stand the thought that the rest of my life

will

> > be spent everyday suffering and being consumed by this. I want

to

> be

> > there for my girls, be active and be the best mom I can and live

a

> > normal healthy life like everyone else. This is really

depressing.

> >

>

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what are the laws in Ohio...does anyone know?

<kimberlyire@...> wrote: Parents Of

Teens Lacking Immunizations Called To Court

http://www.myfoxdc.com/myfox/

More than 2,000 Prince 's County students have not gotten their

state-mandated shots. Tonight, an ultimatum to some of those parents:

Come to court, get the shots, or else.

Some students have missed as much as a month and a half of school

because they haven't gotten the required immunizations-- for

chickenpox and hepatitis B. So now the school system says it's time

to get tough and take those parents to court. Free clinics, free

shots, door-to-door visits, and countless letters. Still more than

2,300 Prince 's county students don't have their required

immunizations. This Saturday, more than 1600 students and their

parents have been ordered to appear in circuit court for the children

to be immunized.

Health workers will be on hand to give the shots immediately. The

problem is a new law that took effect last year requiring students in

the fifth through 10th grade to also have the chicken pox and

hepatitis b vaccine. Parents who don't show up or fail to comply--

could be fined up to $50 and get up to 10 days in jail. Although

getting students vaccinated by " court order " may seem unusual, the

law is on the school district's side.

Kivlighan with the University of land's School of Public

Health says-- the Supreme Court weighed in on this very issue more

than 100 years ago with Smallpox. The school district does grant

exemptions for religious purposes or other medical reasons but only

if parents apply. Going to court-- was a last resort.

Hepatitis b vaccine requires three shots over six months. One of the

problems has been that students will get one shot but don't get the

others. Therefore, the school district states they're not in

compliance.

COMMENT: The push to vaccinate is completely out of control. Mandates

and requirements are passed by uninformed and under-educated State

legislators who are sold a bill of goods by smiling pharmaceutical

lobbyists being well-paid to pedal their poisons. Parents do not have

an opportunity to vote on the necessity of mandates; they are shoved

down their throats. They pay taxes to get their children into

schools. Then they are required to inject substances their children

with substances that could maim or kill them in order to be

in " compliance. "

The vaccines that are being required in Prince 's County -- for

chickenpox, a totally benign disease and for hepatitis b, a disease

of drug-users & promiscuous adults -- are not necessary for the

health of these children. Do parents know what is in these vaccines?

The chickenpox vaccine is made from aborted fetal cells and contains

sucrose, hydrolyzed gelatin, salt, MSG (0.5 mg), sodium phosphate

dibasic, potassium phosphate monobasic, potassium chloride, trace

EDTA, neomycin and serum from cows. The hepatitis b vaccine contains

aluminum and yeast.

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I belive Ohio allows all 3 exemptions. There's a map on this site:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?

fuseaction=user.viewprofile & friendid=168544200

Hope this helps, K

Parents Of Teens Lacking Immunizations Called To Court

>

> http://www.myfoxdc.com/myfox/

>

> More than 2,000 Prince 's County students have not gotten

their

> state-mandated shots. Tonight, an ultimatum to some of those

parents:

> Come to court, get the shots, or else.

>

> Some students have missed as much as a month and a half of school

> because they haven't gotten the required immunizations-- for

> chickenpox and hepatitis B. So now the school system says it's

time

> to get tough and take those parents to court. Free clinics, free

> shots, door-to-door visits, and countless letters. Still more than

> 2,300 Prince 's county students don't have their required

> immunizations. This Saturday, more than 1600 students and their

> parents have been ordered to appear in circuit court for the

children

> to be immunized.

>

> Health workers will be on hand to give the shots immediately. The

> problem is a new law that took effect last year requiring students

in

> the fifth through 10th grade to also have the chicken pox and

> hepatitis b vaccine. Parents who don't show up or fail to comply--

> could be fined up to $50 and get up to 10 days in jail. Although

> getting students vaccinated by " court order " may seem unusual, the

> law is on the school district's side.

>

> Kivlighan with the University of land's School of Public

> Health says-- the Supreme Court weighed in on this very issue more

> than 100 years ago with Smallpox. The school district does grant

> exemptions for religious purposes or other medical reasons but

only

> if parents apply. Going to court-- was a last resort.

>

> Hepatitis b vaccine requires three shots over six months. One of

the

> problems has been that students will get one shot but don't get

the

> others. Therefore, the school district states they're not in

> compliance.

>

> COMMENT: The push to vaccinate is completely out of control.

Mandates

> and requirements are passed by uninformed and under-educated State

> legislators who are sold a bill of goods by smiling pharmaceutical

> lobbyists being well-paid to pedal their poisons. Parents do not

have

> an opportunity to vote on the necessity of mandates; they are

shoved

> down their throats. They pay taxes to get their children into

> schools. Then they are required to inject substances their

children

> with substances that could maim or kill them in order to be

> in " compliance. "

>

> The vaccines that are being required in Prince 's County --

for

> chickenpox, a totally benign disease and for hepatitis b, a

disease

> of drug-users & promiscuous adults -- are not necessary for the

> health of these children. Do parents know what is in these

vaccines?

> The chickenpox vaccine is made from aborted fetal cells and

contains

> sucrose, hydrolyzed gelatin, salt, MSG (0.5 mg), sodium phosphate

> dibasic, potassium phosphate monobasic, potassium chloride, trace

> EDTA, neomycin and serum from cows. The hepatitis b vaccine

contains

> aluminum and yeast.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

>

>

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I live in land and everyday I thank my lucky stars that my babies are grown

and I don't have to be part of this stupidity. I have to close my eyes and

harden my heart when it comes to my grandchildren and nieces and nephews. No

one listens to " dumb ol' Bev " .

Bev

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Oh, Bev. Bless your heart. My children would be graced with a Grandmother

such as yourself – I have a mother-in-law that gasped when I happened to

mention my second baby would not be vaccinated…imagine what she’ll say when

I mention that we’re considering homeschooling as well (she happens to be an

Elementary school principle). Oh my.

Chris

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Behalf Of BEVERLE SWEITZER

Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 1:53 PM

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Subject: Re: WOW

I live in land and everyday I thank my lucky stars that my babies are

grown and I don't have to be part of this stupidity. I have to close my eyes

and harden my heart when it comes to my grandchildren and nieces and

nephews. No one listens to " dumb ol' Bev " .

Bev

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At 01:40 PM 11/14/2007 -0800, you wrote:

>what are the laws in Ohio...does anyone know?

Follow links from my webpage

http://www.wellwithin1.com/exemptions.htm

Sheri

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Hi Camille :)

Don't worry, all of this stuff can make the best of us go nuts at

times! As far as Ondra/Koski's office accepting Humana - according

to Northwestern's website, they DO accept several different Humana

plans. I don't know if yours falls into that category. Your best

bet likely is to wait for your insurance company's customer service

to check specifically if Northwestern and/or Ondra is considered in-

network.

Good luck with your continued doctor hunting :)

>

> Okey-dokey! Okay, I know I feel like I'm going nuts at times, but

>

> Thank you , for the sane suggestion. So far, the only

doctor's

> office that accepts Humana/Medicare is LaGrone. The offices of

> Boachie and Rand are supposed to be checking into it for me.

Talked

> with Ondra's office today, the response being, " I don't see that

one

> on our list. " I called the wrong # for Bridwell's office today,

got

> distracted and forgot to look up the correct #, but I will.

>

> I called my insurance co. and they were extremely helpful, in

> saying " my computer won't let me pull up that info right now. " So,

I

> went on line to their site, registered, clicked on Specialists and

I

> get " this page is unaccessible " .

>

> Thank goodness for my 4-legged furry canine children. They are the

> light of my life.

>

> Thanx again for listnin'.

>

> peace out,

> camille

>

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Ah, yes, Camille, 'tis oh-so-sad but oh-so-true: We are ALL nuts!

Zoned out, off the charts, off in space, clinically insane, etc.,

etc. Unobservant person that I am, I myself did not actually realize

this until today, when I read the news in an authoritative post to

this forum. I was actually rather surprised and intrigued. I am

sorry that the estimable Dr. Prior Lurker, otherwise known as Dr.

Lem E. Outtahere, did not choose to elaborate on his astute

diagnosis.

Please give your pups an affectionate " Arf! " from me. Unless they

are, like my own dearly departed canine, Alaskan malemutes or other

pooches of the howling-voice variety, in which case you can give

them an admiring " Wooooooo--OOOOOOOO! "

Guess I'd better cut short my own time on the computer, as it seems

to further exacerbate my nuttiness. I only want to add that if you

can keep your marvelous sense of humor through all this pre-op

tribulation, you will come through just fine. Hang in there,

Camille, and thanks for the much-needed guffaws. (No, contrary to

learned professional opinion, it is actually NOT true that Feisty

members, when amused, emit only the most bizarre and maniacal

variety of deranged laughter!)

Ten-four,

-- In , " thiscamille "

<camille014@...> wrote:

>

> Okey-dokey! Okay, I know I feel like I'm going nuts at times, but

> what I didn't realize is that ALL of you were nuts too!! I'm so

glad

> to have this reliable info on hand....... Sorry, am I too new to

> this group to be such a smart***?!!! Thank " the powers that be "

for

> humor!!

>

> Thank you , for the sane suggestion. So far, the only

doctor's

> office that accepts Humana/Medicare is LaGrone. The offices of

> Boachie and Rand are supposed to be checking into it for me.

Talked

> with Ondra's office today, the response being, " I don't see that

one

> on our list. " I called the wrong # for Bridwell's office today,

got

> distracted and forgot to look up the correct #, but I will.

>

> I called my insurance co. and they were extremely helpful, in

> saying " my computer won't let me pull up that info right now. "

So, I

> went on line to their site, registered, clicked on Specialists and

I

> get " this page is unaccessible " .

> I know you are all familiar with the pleasures of insurance

> dealings. The big selling point for me on choosing Humana (as one

of

> the Medicare options) was that the guy said, " you can go to any

> specialist you want, everybody accepts Humana. "

>

> I will follow up on all this again on Monday. Here's what I

> know....that if I keep doing my part, the rest will fall into

place.

> Personally, I would like to have all of this set up and the

surgery

> scheduled in a few weeks, BUT guess what Camille, that's not gonna

> happen. I'm trying to trust the freakin' process!

>

> I have to limit my time on the computer, cuz it seems to suck the

> energy right outta me......Of course, I'm sure that pain has

nothing

> to do with it. I am very grateful that I get a lot of relief from

> lying down.....most of the time.

>

> Thank goodness for my 4-legged furry canine children. They are

the

> light of my life.

>

> Thanx again for listnin'.

>

> peace out,

> camille

>

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Welcome to our forum!

The whole vaccine issue IS very much overwhelming, especially with all the

garbage and untruth that our government, pharmaceutacal companies and

medical communities (CDC, AAP, etc.) are touting as truth and brainwashing

the public to believe. I commend you for taking the first step in becoming

truly educated. This is a BUSY form, and there is a lot of good information

and advice to be had here.

If you're new to vaccine research, here are a few links to get you started.

Knowledge is power. As you study and learn more and more, you will come to

the point where you feel empowered rather than overwhelmed, and you'll

be able to make your own decisions and come to your own conclusions on this

topic.

I would absolutely start by watching this video:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/02/14/why-vaccines-aren-\

t-safe.aspx

It's a little long, but you can watch it in chapters. It's very well put

together and has a lot of information that is easy to understand.

Tocco, the speaker, also references a lot of material that you can refer to

for more information.

National Vaccine Information Center: http://www.nvic.org/

This is a " staple " site that you should bookmark. I refer to it almost

daily. It contains a plethora of information on vaccines and indivitual

state laws for school vaccine exemptions.

http://www.whale.to/vaccines.html Tons of information here.

Sheri's site (our list moderator): http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

There are also some good books out on the subject. Here are a few good ones

for starters:

Vaccine Safety Manual for Concerned Families and Health Practitioners:

Guide to Immunization Risks and Protection by Neil Z.

Evidence of Harm: Mercury in Vaccines and the Autism Epidemic: A Medical

Controversy by Kirby

The Vaccine Guide, by Randall Neustaedter, OMD

A Shot in the Dark by L. Coulter and Barbara Loe Fisher

How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of Your Doctor by S.

Mendelsohn, M.D.

Again, welcome aboard! I hope this information helps you feel a little

less overwhelmed. :)

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:03 AM, ecarlson873 <ecarlson873@...> wrote:

> i don't even know where to start with this stuff. i feel very

> overwhelmed.

>

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Too many Thanksgiving dinners this week for me to be online. I ate

dinner Thanksgiving day with my grandmother and some other relatives.

Then my brother, his wife, and two children came over Saturday, Sunday

I went to church, and today, Monday, I've finally made it back online

to read messages.

I also noticed there wasn't much said the past few days, I hope that

means everyone has had a wonderful Thanksgiving.

I'm exhausted from the past week. We've been having cold wet weather

here in Kentucky and that with all the visiting during Thanksgiving has

increased my pain level. Hopefully resting this week will get the pain

under control. I love for my niece and nephew to visit but playing in

the floor with a two yr. old isn't easy with RSD in my right leg. My

sister-in-law worries that my niece is going to hurt me, but I'm very

careful to keep the right leg out of the way of my 2yr old niece.

I hope everyone else had a great, low-pain Thanksgiving. Although

Thanksgiving has left me exhausted I'm now looking forward to spending

Christmas with my family.

>

> Seems it got quiet in here? How is everyone? I hope good it would

be

> nice if everyone check in mike group owner

>

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