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Welcome to the group. Unfortunately, I have to answer yes to both of

your surgery inquiries. I had both, but neither seems to have helped

in the long run. I also had the frontal sinus ablation procedure,

where fat is transplanted into the frontal sinus cavity. This

procedure was probably the most barbaric of all, slicing from ear to

ear to access the sinus, then stapling the skin back together. Left a

lovely scar and a lumpy forehead. Not sure it helped at all either,

but did give me a little piece of mind regarding the possibility of

having an infection find its way from the frontal sinus into the brain.

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> Thanks so much for the comeback. I feel better all ready although I

> still haven't found anyone having more surgeries than myself. Not a

> record I would have wanted to have or wished for anyone to break!!

Now

> I would like to ask a couple of questions if I may. I guess most of

us

> have had the old stand by deviated septum surgery. But I would like

to

> know if anyone has had a COLDWELL LUCT surgery? This consist of going

> in thru the mouth, to ones cheeck and opening up from the nose to

the

> jaw in order to remove sinus disease? Sorry thats sounds really

gross!

> Another procedure was drilling holes in my forehead very close to the

> start of my eyebrows,in order to drain those.Have you ever heard of

> either of these? Thanks so much for time. Peace, Angel

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That procedure sounds more appropriate to a torture chanber rather than treatment. I am 58 and have only had the serious side of Samters for about 3 years but suffice to say it is a life changing experience. If you go on youtube and search against FESS SURGERY you can get some videos of the more common sinus procedures but your COLDWELL LUCT doesn't get a result. I have known about the Samters group for about 18 months now and it is certainly the best source of information and shared experience there is and just to know there are other people going through similar trauma is a source of comfort.

My day job is database manager for a trade union and I often think we should collectively try to carefully document and index our circumstances and experiences to become a resource for the medics as it could help the quest for better treatment and understanding. There is a conflict between the storing of some pretty personal and intrusive data and value it could collectively become but it would be ideal for a new joiner such as yourself. I know about databases but am a bit weak on web technology. However it is 5:00 in the morning here in the UK and I have been up for an hour getting clear with irrigation, so I do get the time to do some early hours research!

Good luck and welcome to the group

I will now try to catch 40 winks before the sun rises and also administer my flixonase capsule

Mike

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Thanks so much for the comeback. I feel better all ready although I still haven't found anyone having more surgeries than myself. Not a record I would have wanted to have or wished for anyone to break!! Now I would like to ask a couple of questions if I may. I guess most of us have had the old stand by deviated septum surgery. But I would like to know if anyone has had a COLDWELL LUCT surgery? This consist of going in thru the mouth, to ones cheeck and opening up from the nose to the jaw in order to remove sinus disease? Sorry thats sounds really gross! Another procedure was drilling holes in my forehead very close to the start of my eyebrows,in order to drain those.Have you ever heard of either of these? Thanks so much for time. Peace, Angel

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The Caldwell-Luc procedure is the old, classic way of doing sinus surgery. See for instance : ofcn.org/cyber.serv/hwp/hwc/ent/news/ent482.htmlwww.ghorayeb.com/CaldwellLuc.html (warning : pictures not for the faint of heart)It has been largely replaced by FESS (functional endoscopic sinus surgery), but may still be used when FESS fails (though I fail to see what it can bring that FESS can't, except in emergency or special cases).It is likely that, in the future, more emphasis will be placed on less traumatic procedures, such as those based on balloon dilatation of the sinuses' ostia :http://www.acclarent.com/for-patients/overview/http://www.entellusmedical.com/--- In samters , "angel4mytull" <angel.spargo@...> wrote:>> Thanks so much for the comeback. I feel better all ready although I > still haven't found anyone having more surgeries than myself. Not a > record I would have wanted to have or wished for anyone to break!! Now > I would like to ask a couple of questions if I may. I guess most of us > have had the old stand by deviated septum surgery. But I would like to > know if anyone has had a COLDWELL LUCT surgery? This consist of going > in thru the mouth, to ones cheeck and opening up from the nose to the > jaw in order to remove sinus disease? Sorry thats sounds really gross! > Another procedure was drilling holes in my forehead very close to the > start of my eyebrows,in order to drain those.Have you ever heard of > either of these? Thanks so much for time. Peace, Angel>

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Hi, Angel, and welcome. You have definitely found the group that

knows what you're going through!

I have had the surgeries you describe, though I don't know the name

of them. My first surgery was through the mouth when I was 20 years

old. I was cut from over the eye tooth all the way back to the end

of my gum. I don't recall having any pain with it though. My last

surgery, a couple of years ago, they drilled my head as you describe,

in addition to removing polyps. I was sore, but no real pain that

Tylenol and the ice bag couldn't take care of. I've had the septum

fixed, twice, and all sorts of things in there removed or rearranged,

which I did find painful. I often have polyps removed in the office

with a snare. It's an old procedure, but I like it because it's a

quick, painless fix for blockage from polyps, and I can have it done

and go right to work afterwards. I have had 4 big surgeries in the

hospital, and have had office surgery where polyps are snared out,

about every 6 months, for years. I don't have asthma, but am allergic

to aspirin and NSAIDS. I've been battling this for over 30 years, and

the saga continues. I have polyps now, but can usually keep them

shrunk fairly well, using Flovent in my nose. When this gets where

it doesn't work so well, I call the doctor and he uses the snare to

give me some relief.

Diane

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> > Thanks so much for the comeback. I feel better all ready although

I

> > still haven't found anyone having more surgeries than myself. Not

a

> > record I would have wanted to have or wished for anyone to

break!!

> Now

> > I would like to ask a couple of questions if I may. I guess most

of us

> > have had the old stand by deviated septum surgery. But I would

like to

> > know if anyone has had a COLDWELL LUCT surgery? This consist of

going

> > in thru the mouth, to ones cheeck and opening up from the nose

to the

> > jaw in order to remove sinus disease? Sorry thats sounds really

gross!

> > Another procedure was drilling holes in my forehead very close to

the

> > start of my eyebrows,in order to drain those.Have you ever heard

of

> > either of these? Thanks so much for time. Peace, Angel

> >

>

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You are so motivating me to do CLX!   It won't be long for me!  :)Great work !DarcyOn Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:57 AM, A. M. <plantpowered@...> wrote:

I just did Push Circuit 1. LOVED IT! I love this kind of workout: slower and heavier. I did all the squats wtih 2 x 20 lb kettlebells, and I can definitely go heavier because I finished the reps easily.  I'll have to assemble some heavier bells. My barbell clamps arrived in the mail yesterday. I'll use them next time!

This workout feels so safe for me. It's so exciting to see some strength gains. I'm even seeing some progress with the push ups, and I really suck at those. I'm SO glad I bought this series.  It's exactly the boost I needed.

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You are so motivating me to do CLX!   It won't be long for me!  :)Great work !DarcyOn Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:57 AM, A. M. <plantpowered@...> wrote:

I just did Push Circuit 1. LOVED IT! I love this kind of workout: slower and heavier. I did all the squats wtih 2 x 20 lb kettlebells, and I can definitely go heavier because I finished the reps easily.  I'll have to assemble some heavier bells. My barbell clamps arrived in the mail yesterday. I'll use them next time!

This workout feels so safe for me. It's so exciting to see some strength gains. I'm even seeing some progress with the push ups, and I really suck at those. I'm SO glad I bought this series.  It's exactly the boost I needed.

Happy workouts!

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Sounds great, . Congratulations! Keep at the push-ups, I am amazed at how many I can do now compared to at the beginning of the year. I still hate them though!Donna

From: A. M. <plantpowered@...>Subject: WOW Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 9:57 AM

I just did Push Circuit 1. LOVED IT! I love this kind of workout: slower and heavier. I did all the squats wtih 2 x 20 lb kettlebells, and I can definitely go heavier because I finished the reps easily. I'll have to assemble some heavier bells. My barbell clamps arrived in the mail yesterday. I'll use them next time!This workout feels so safe for me. It's so exciting to see some strength gains. I'm even seeing some progress with the push ups, and I really suck at those. I'm SO glad I bought this series. It's exactly the boost I needed.Happy workouts!

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Sounds great, . Congratulations! Keep at the push-ups, I am amazed at how many I can do now compared to at the beginning of the year. I still hate them though!Donna

From: A. M. <plantpowered@...>Subject: WOW Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 9:57 AM

I just did Push Circuit 1. LOVED IT! I love this kind of workout: slower and heavier. I did all the squats wtih 2 x 20 lb kettlebells, and I can definitely go heavier because I finished the reps easily. I'll have to assemble some heavier bells. My barbell clamps arrived in the mail yesterday. I'll use them next time!This workout feels so safe for me. It's so exciting to see some strength gains. I'm even seeing some progress with the push ups, and I really suck at those. I'm SO glad I bought this series. It's exactly the boost I needed.Happy workouts!

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Sounds great, . Congratulations! Keep at the push-ups, I am amazed at how many I can do now compared to at the beginning of the year. I still hate them though!Donna

From: A. M. <plantpowered@...>Subject: WOW Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 9:57 AM

I just did Push Circuit 1. LOVED IT! I love this kind of workout: slower and heavier. I did all the squats wtih 2 x 20 lb kettlebells, and I can definitely go heavier because I finished the reps easily. I'll have to assemble some heavier bells. My barbell clamps arrived in the mail yesterday. I'll use them next time!This workout feels so safe for me. It's so exciting to see some strength gains. I'm even seeing some progress with the push ups, and I really suck at those. I'm SO glad I bought this series. It's exactly the boost I needed.Happy workouts!

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Fantastic, !!!!

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I just did Push Circuit 1. LOVED IT! I love this kind of workout: slower and heavier. I did all the squats wtih 2 x 20 lb kettlebells, and I can definitely go heavier because I finished the reps easily. I'll have to assemble some heavier bells. My barbell clamps arrived in the mail yesterday. I'll use them next time!This workout feels so safe for me. It's so exciting to see some strength gains. I'm even seeing some progress with the push ups, and I really suck at those. I'm SO glad I bought this series. It's exactly the boost I needed.Happy workouts!

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Fantastic, !!!!

WOW

I just did Push Circuit 1. LOVED IT! I love this kind of workout: slower and heavier. I did all the squats wtih 2 x 20 lb kettlebells, and I can definitely go heavier because I finished the reps easily. I'll have to assemble some heavier bells. My barbell clamps arrived in the mail yesterday. I'll use them next time!This workout feels so safe for me. It's so exciting to see some strength gains. I'm even seeing some progress with the push ups, and I really suck at those. I'm SO glad I bought this series. It's exactly the boost I needed.Happy workouts!

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Good job ! That is cool that you can ALREADY go heavier on the squats too!

I like the slower heavier weight workouts too. It is fun when you see the strength gains like that.

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Good job ! That is cool that you can ALREADY go heavier on the squats too!

I like the slower heavier weight workouts too. It is fun when you see the strength gains like that.

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Hi , I loved Push Circuit 1 and PC2 when I did them too! I think that I like the Push phase more than the Burn phase..but both are great. I used some 20 pounders for some of my exercises but I don't remember if I used them for all my squats though.GREAT Job Girl, JenFrom: A. M. <plantpowered@...>Subject: WOWTo:

Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 9:57 AM

I just did Push Circuit 1. LOVED IT! I love this kind of workout: slower and heavier. I did all the squats wtih 2 x 20 lb kettlebells, and I can definitely go heavier because I finished the reps easily. I'll have to assemble some heavier bells. My barbell clamps arrived in the mail yesterday. I'll use them next time!

This workout feels so safe for me. It's so exciting to see some strength gains. I'm even seeing some progress with the push ups, and I really suck at those. I'm SO glad I bought this series. It's exactly the boost I needed.

Happy workouts!

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Hi , I loved Push Circuit 1 and PC2 when I did them too! I think that I like the Push phase more than the Burn phase..but both are great. I used some 20 pounders for some of my exercises but I don't remember if I used them for all my squats though.GREAT Job Girl, JenFrom: A. M. <plantpowered@...>Subject: WOWTo:

Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 9:57 AM

I just did Push Circuit 1. LOVED IT! I love this kind of workout: slower and heavier. I did all the squats wtih 2 x 20 lb kettlebells, and I can definitely go heavier because I finished the reps easily. I'll have to assemble some heavier bells. My barbell clamps arrived in the mail yesterday. I'll use them next time!

This workout feels so safe for me. It's so exciting to see some strength gains. I'm even seeing some progress with the push ups, and I really suck at those. I'm SO glad I bought this series. It's exactly the boost I needed.

Happy workouts!

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Hi , I loved Push Circuit 1 and PC2 when I did them too! I think that I like the Push phase more than the Burn phase..but both are great. I used some 20 pounders for some of my exercises but I don't remember if I used them for all my squats though.GREAT Job Girl, JenFrom: A. M. <plantpowered@...>Subject: WOWTo:

Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 9:57 AM

I just did Push Circuit 1. LOVED IT! I love this kind of workout: slower and heavier. I did all the squats wtih 2 x 20 lb kettlebells, and I can definitely go heavier because I finished the reps easily. I'll have to assemble some heavier bells. My barbell clamps arrived in the mail yesterday. I'll use them next time!

This workout feels so safe for me. It's so exciting to see some strength gains. I'm even seeing some progress with the push ups, and I really suck at those. I'm SO glad I bought this series. It's exactly the boost I needed.

Happy workouts!

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Darcy, it's probably going to be too easy for you since you " ve

recently done STS. For me, it has been a great way to get into a more

structured, regular routine, but you already are there.

I really like Chalean.

On 6/30/09, Darcy Ledman <exercise.junkie@...> wrote:

> You are so motivating me to do CLX! It won't be long for me! :)

>

> Great work !

>

> Darcy

>

> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:57 AM, A. M. <plantpowered@...> wrote:

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>> I just did Push Circuit 1. LOVED IT! I love this kind of workout: slower

>> and heavier. I did all the squats wtih 2 x 20 lb kettlebells, and I can

>> definitely go heavier because I finished the reps easily. I'll have to

>> assemble some heavier bells. My barbell clamps arrived in the mail

>> yesterday. I'll use them next time!

>>

>> This workout feels so safe for me. It's so exciting to see some strength

>> gains. I'm even seeing some progress with the push ups, and I really suck

>> at

>> those. I'm SO glad I bought this series. It's exactly the boost I needed.

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>> Happy workouts!

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Darcy, it's probably going to be too easy for you since you " ve

recently done STS. For me, it has been a great way to get into a more

structured, regular routine, but you already are there.

I really like Chalean.

On 6/30/09, Darcy Ledman <exercise.junkie@...> wrote:

> You are so motivating me to do CLX! It won't be long for me! :)

>

> Great work !

>

> Darcy

>

> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:57 AM, A. M. <plantpowered@...> wrote:

>

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>> I just did Push Circuit 1. LOVED IT! I love this kind of workout: slower

>> and heavier. I did all the squats wtih 2 x 20 lb kettlebells, and I can

>> definitely go heavier because I finished the reps easily. I'll have to

>> assemble some heavier bells. My barbell clamps arrived in the mail

>> yesterday. I'll use them next time!

>>

>> This workout feels so safe for me. It's so exciting to see some strength

>> gains. I'm even seeing some progress with the push ups, and I really suck

>> at

>> those. I'm SO glad I bought this series. It's exactly the boost I needed.

>>

>> Happy workouts!

>>

>>

>>

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Darcy, it's probably going to be too easy for you since you " ve

recently done STS. For me, it has been a great way to get into a more

structured, regular routine, but you already are there.

I really like Chalean.

On 6/30/09, Darcy Ledman <exercise.junkie@...> wrote:

> You are so motivating me to do CLX! It won't be long for me! :)

>

> Great work !

>

> Darcy

>

> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:57 AM, A. M. <plantpowered@...> wrote:

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>> I just did Push Circuit 1. LOVED IT! I love this kind of workout: slower

>> and heavier. I did all the squats wtih 2 x 20 lb kettlebells, and I can

>> definitely go heavier because I finished the reps easily. I'll have to

>> assemble some heavier bells. My barbell clamps arrived in the mail

>> yesterday. I'll use them next time!

>>

>> This workout feels so safe for me. It's so exciting to see some strength

>> gains. I'm even seeing some progress with the push ups, and I really suck

>> at

>> those. I'm SO glad I bought this series. It's exactly the boost I needed.

>>

>> Happy workouts!

>>

>>

>>

>

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Donna, that is cool. I love the idea of being able to do straight leg

push ups as I get older. In a couple of years, I want to be able to

drop and do a bunch when I turn 50.

On 6/30/09, Donna M-P <donna112520@...> wrote:

> Sounds great, .  Congratulations!  Keep at the push-ups, I am amazed

> at how many I can do now compared to at the beginning of the year.  I still

> hate them though!

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Hi ,

Try the 100 Push Up Challenge - it is tough, it is supposed to take 6 weeks, I have made it to Week 4, Day 2, Column 2 and i have been working on it since the beginning of the year. But, to give you an idea of my progress - I totally struggled to be able to do 10, but today I did:Set 1 - 20

Set 2 - 25

Set 3 - 20

Set 4 - 20

Set 5 - 28

So, it can be done! :)

Donna>>> From: A. M. <plantpowered@ gmail.com>> Subject: WOW> > Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 9:57 AM>>>>>>>>> I just did Push Circuit 1. LOVED IT! I love this kind of workout: slower and> heavier. I did all the squats wtih 2 x 20 lb kettlebells, and I can> definitely go heavier because I finished the reps easily. I'll have to> assemble some heavier bells. My barbell clamps arrived in the mail> yesterday. I'll use them next time!>> This workout feels so safe for me. It's so

exciting to see some strength> gains. I'm even seeing some progress with the push ups, and I really suck at> those. I'm SO glad I bought this series. It's exactly the boost I needed.>> Happy workouts!> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Hi ,

Try the 100 Push Up Challenge - it is tough, it is supposed to take 6 weeks, I have made it to Week 4, Day 2, Column 2 and i have been working on it since the beginning of the year. But, to give you an idea of my progress - I totally struggled to be able to do 10, but today I did:Set 1 - 20

Set 2 - 25

Set 3 - 20

Set 4 - 20

Set 5 - 28

So, it can be done! :)

Donna>>> From: A. M. <plantpowered@ gmail.com>> Subject: WOW> > Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 9:57 AM>>>>>>>>> I just did Push Circuit 1. LOVED IT! I love this kind of workout: slower and> heavier. I did all the squats wtih 2 x 20 lb kettlebells, and I can> definitely go heavier because I finished the reps easily. I'll have to> assemble some heavier bells. My barbell clamps arrived in the mail> yesterday. I'll use them next time!>> This workout feels so safe for me. It's so

exciting to see some strength> gains. I'm even seeing some progress with the push ups, and I really suck at> those. I'm SO glad I bought this series. It's exactly the boost I needed.>> Happy workouts!> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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That's huge Donna!  Great job!DarcyOn Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Donna M-P <donna112520@...> wrote:

Hi ,

 

Try the 100 Push Up Challenge - it is tough, it is supposed to take 6 weeks, I have made it to Week 4, Day 2, Column 2 and i have been working on it since the beginning of the year.  But, to give you an idea of my progress - I totally struggled to be able to do 10, but today I did:

Set 1 - 20

Set 2 - 25

Set 3 - 20

Set 4 - 20

Set 5 - 28

 

So, it can be done! :)

Donna>>> From: A. M. <plantpowered@ gmail.com>

> Subject: WOW> > Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 9:57 AM

>>>>>>>>> I just did Push Circuit 1. LOVED IT! I love this kind of workout: slower and> heavier. I did all the squats wtih 2 x 20 lb kettlebells, and I can

> definitely go heavier because I finished the reps easily.  I'll have to> assemble some heavier bells. My barbell clamps arrived in the mail> yesterday. I'll use them next time!>> This workout feels so safe for me. It's so

exciting to see some strength> gains. I'm even seeing some progress with the push ups, and I really suck at> those. I'm SO glad I bought this series.  It's exactly the boost I needed.>

> Happy workouts!> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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That's huge Donna!  Great job!DarcyOn Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Donna M-P <donna112520@...> wrote:

Hi ,

 

Try the 100 Push Up Challenge - it is tough, it is supposed to take 6 weeks, I have made it to Week 4, Day 2, Column 2 and i have been working on it since the beginning of the year.  But, to give you an idea of my progress - I totally struggled to be able to do 10, but today I did:

Set 1 - 20

Set 2 - 25

Set 3 - 20

Set 4 - 20

Set 5 - 28

 

So, it can be done! :)

Donna>>> From: A. M. <plantpowered@ gmail.com>

> Subject: WOW> > Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 9:57 AM

>>>>>>>>> I just did Push Circuit 1. LOVED IT! I love this kind of workout: slower and> heavier. I did all the squats wtih 2 x 20 lb kettlebells, and I can

> definitely go heavier because I finished the reps easily.  I'll have to> assemble some heavier bells. My barbell clamps arrived in the mail> yesterday. I'll use them next time!>> This workout feels so safe for me. It's so

exciting to see some strength> gains. I'm even seeing some progress with the push ups, and I really suck at> those. I'm SO glad I bought this series.  It's exactly the boost I needed.>

> Happy workouts!> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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I like Chalene too.  I have the program already and do look forward to it.  I'm pretty positive I wll add to the workouts so I am sweating for an hour though.  I'm not sure yet if I will do that with more strength or cardio..hmmm..

Thanks for sharing your thoughts .DarcyOn Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:29 PM, A. M. <plantpowered@...> wrote:

Darcy, it's probably going to be too easy for you since you " ve

recently done STS. For me, it has been a great way to get into a more

structured, regular routine, but you already are there.

I really like Chalean.

On 6/30/09, Darcy Ledman <exercise.junkie@...> wrote:

> You are so motivating me to do CLX! It won't be long for me! :)

>

> Great work !

>

> Darcy

>

> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:57 AM, A. M. <plantpowered@...> wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> I just did Push Circuit 1. LOVED IT! I love this kind of workout: slower

>> and heavier. I did all the squats wtih 2 x 20 lb kettlebells, and I can

>> definitely go heavier because I finished the reps easily. I'll have to

>> assemble some heavier bells. My barbell clamps arrived in the mail

>> yesterday. I'll use them next time!

>>

>> This workout feels so safe for me. It's so exciting to see some strength

>> gains. I'm even seeing some progress with the push ups, and I really suck

>> at

>> those. I'm SO glad I bought this series. It's exactly the boost I needed.

>>

>> Happy workouts!

>>

>>

>>

>

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