Tinnitus

August 27, 1999

this may sound crazy but the better I feel the more my ears ring-- I guess

it is the sound my brain make when it is happy.

Steve

tinnitus

From: rhbailey@...

Dear Mushindoc,

You wrote, " Tinnitus can usually be controlled with enzyme and herbal

therapy. If anyone wants an article on the protocol, send a self

addresed

envelope to:

Jace Medical... "

You don't sign your name, so I wonder--do you sell these enzymes and

herbs?

Do you have tinnitus? I can give you the names of some audiologists who

specialize in tinnitus treatment, if you have tinnitus. Tinnitus can

become

so severe that people commit suicide because of it, so I'd be leary of

the

herbs.

Sue B.

---------------------------

June 30, 2000

Hi, Somish, Debbie & all,

>thanks, that's very, very interesting. i'd like to add here that now

>i'm not so sure it was the aspirin - the ringing seems to periodically

>intensify and then let up - maybe it's the bromelain, or just " change " -

>something else going on.

For me, the tinnitus is correlated with how tired I am overall. During good

times there is only one soft tone in one ear; by the time I am really beat

it is loud, doble tone in one & loud single tone in the other. From that, it

takes about 2 days to recover back to the good level - same as with energy.

Jerry

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August 7, 2000

There are also literature articles & clinician reports that suggest the

effectiveness of clinical hypnosis. Typically, not a cure but a reduction

in perceived noise. Of course, it is critical that a medical examination

be done first to r/o medical causation (eg. a tumor).

Granville, Ph.D.

London Ontario

<howardg@...>

At 04:16 PM 8/7/2000 -0400, you wrote:

>Some of you, through personal experience or that of family or friends, may

>be very familiar with the fairly common disorder known as Tinnitus, a

>persistent type of periodic or sustained ringing in the ears that can make

>life a real misery. The most common opinion is that little can be done to

>assist the sufferer, but some therapists have found thatTinnitus Retraining

>Therapy (TRT) may be of definite value.

August 7, 2000

Thanks for the info Mel. I have very severe tinnitus, so I'm hoping to

implement some of this treatment. I've never even heard of this before - I

assumed it was something you had to live with.

>Some of you, through personal experience or that of family or friends, may

>be very familiar with the fairly common disorder known as Tinnitus, a

>persistent type of periodic or sustained ringing in the ears that can make

>life a real misery. The most common opinion is that little can be done to

>assist the sufferer, but some therapists have found thatTinnitus Retraining

>Therapy (TRT) may be of definite value.

February 11, 2001

There is a doctor in Santiago de Chile who uses a " pine resin "

derivative to treat tinnitus. Upon further investigation, we discovered

it was DMSO.

Lana

> This is ot but one of these is 'sure' to work! DMSO will take

anything

> way in, so first maybe put some GSE (grapefruit seed extract diluted

way

> down) around the ear and then apply a little DMSO to carry it deep

into

> the head. Or if the DMSO scares you, then put the diluted GSE on a

> q-tip and put in the ear or use a dropper. Just antibiotic ointment

> rubbed around the outside of the ear usually helps a lot, esp. if you

> qtip the ear canal as well. Tape a therapeutic magnet over the ear

for

> a while if you have one. Peroxide in the ear for 15 to 20 min. on

each

> side will help anything I ever heard of-won't cure everything though.

B

> vitamins, esp. from brewer's yeast, taken over a period of time (maybe

a

> month) can cure some tinnitus and can't hurt anything.

> Re the GSE----I just found out about this on one of the lists and,

> although they raved about it, they still understated it. It is just

> wonderful. Even my husband is requesting large doses. And we had to

> threaten severe bodily harm to get him to take the first dose. It is

> easing inflammation and soreness for him in a large way. I still

think

> he has cancer, but he won't go get a diagnosis. But if he can be

> comfortable, then that is sure better than nothing.

> I have read that DMSO will carry anything on the skin straight to the

> bond so be careful what you use it with.

> Hope some of this helps. Best wishes, pj The GSE is taking care of

> my son's acne very nicely. Mostly gone now. We are all taking it

> internally. Be sure to read the directions as it ABSOLUTELY MUST be

> diluted whether used externally or internally.

>

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other alternative self-help subjects.

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February 11, 2001

Henry is correct. One time I had some knee pain that wouldn't respond to the

usual treatments, so I thought I would try some DMSO mixed with cayenne pepper.

Needless to say, the next ten hours or so were some of the most excruciatingly

painful of my entire life! Nothing, no nothing would stop the pain. Moral --- BE

CAREFUL what you mix DMSO with!

Dan

tinnitus

This is ot but one of these is 'sure' to work! DMSO will take anything

way in, so first maybe put some GSE (grapefruit seed extract diluted way

down) around the ear and then apply a little DMSO to carry it deep into

the head. Or if the DMSO scares you, then put the diluted GSE on a

q-tip and put in the ear or use a dropper. Just antibiotic ointment

rubbed around the outside of the ear usually helps a lot, esp. if you

qtip the ear canal as well. Tape a therapeutic magnet over the ear for

a while if you have one. Peroxide in the ear for 15 to 20 min. on each

side will help anything I ever heard of-won't cure everything though. B

vitamins, esp. from brewer's yeast, taken over a period of time (maybe a

month) can cure some tinnitus and can't hurt anything.

Re the GSE----I just found out about this on one of the lists and,

although they raved about it, they still understated it. It is just

wonderful. Even my husband is requesting large doses. And we had to

threaten severe bodily harm to get him to take the first dose. It is

easing inflammation and soreness for him in a large way. I still think

he has cancer, but he won't go get a diagnosis. But if he can be

comfortable, then that is sure better than nothing.

I have read that DMSO will carry anything on the skin straight to the

bond so be careful what you use it with.

Hope some of this helps. Best wishes, pj The GSE is taking care of

my son's acne very nicely. Mostly gone now. We are all taking it

internally. Be sure to read the directions as it ABSOLUTELY MUST be

diluted whether used externally or internally.

February 12, 2001

Where can I obtain a zapper, and the info on use, benefits, applications,

etc?

tinnitus

> For acne, he is taking it internally. He takes 15 drops two to three

> times a day. We try for an empty stomach, but he is a 6' 2 " sixteen

> year old, so that time frame is difficult to find! And about the

> DMSO---- I meant to say it will take anything on the skin all the way to

> the bone, not 'bond'. I have found many great health helpers on the

> net, but I think GSE is probably the greatest since zappers, and green

> hull black walnut tincture. pj Also, if you want to use antibiotic

> ointment, we just put a small gob on the q tip and rub the ear canal as

> far down as is comfortable, in addition to rubbing it in good all around

> the ear. I think it kills off some of the critters in the porous bone

> around the ear. Also, we have taken 30 drops of the GSE in about 8

> ounces of orange juice in a single dose. After reading up on it some,

> it seems that it can be taken that way with no ill effect. But I

> personally don't think I will use it that way very often. I think the

> nutribiotic web site is where I read a lot about it.

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

other alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

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February 12, 2001

Try http://www.sotainstruments.com/order.html or

http://www.adcomtronics.com/order.htm

....Ron Inda

> Where can I obtain a zapper, and the info on use, benefits,

applications,

> etc?

> tinnitus

>

> > For acne, he is taking it internally. He takes 15 drops two to

three

> > times a day. We try for an empty stomach, but he is a 6' 2 "

sixteen

> > year old, so that time frame is difficult to find! And about the

> > DMSO---- I meant to say it will take anything on the skin all the

way to

> > the bone, not 'bond'. I have found many great health helpers

on the

> > net, but I think GSE is probably the greatest since zappers, and

green

> > hull black walnut tincture. pj Also, if you want to use

antibiotic

> > ointment, we just put a small gob on the q tip and rub the ear

canal as

> > far down as is comfortable, in addition to rubbing it in good all

around

> > the ear. I think it kills off some of the critters in the porous

bone

> > around the ear. Also, we have taken 30 drops of the GSE in

about 8

> > ounces of orange juice in a single dose. After reading up on it

some,

> > it seems that it can be taken that way with no ill effect. But I

> > personally don't think I will use it that way very often. I

think the

> > nutribiotic web site is where I read a lot about it.

> >

> > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative

therapies, and

> other alternative self-help subjects.

> >

> > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

> >

> > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will

find here

> are for information and research purposes only. We are people

sharing

> information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do

so at your

> own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the

ability to

> take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you

agree to

> hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas

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> here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a

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> or health care provider.

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October 29, 2001

Ginkgo is ok for all.

Tinnitus

BlankBe careful what you do about tinnitus, you might be suffering from

Menier's (SP?) Disease. Symptoms include nausea and vomiting, decline in

your hearing, being off balance and of course tinnitus. Menier's is

called

the fluctuating disease. Sometimes you have all the symptoms, sometimes

only one, sometimes none. I walked with this for years not knowing and

ended up with operations in both ears. In my left ear, I have lost a huge

percentage of my hearing due to not having it checked it out soon enough.

And yes, salt does make a huge difference. It makes the noise more.

Gingko

Biloba and Vit E both causes a reduction in the noise level but as far as

I

know, both are avoids.

Lots of love.

Hilda Vosloo

Cell: 082 922 9136

Fax: 27-12-5492621

Email: hildavosloo@...

October 29, 2001

Do you have any more info on this Menier's (sp) disease? I have heard

of it, years ago though. I get a little dizzy occasionally, have

headaches that sometimes cause very mild nausea. I already know that

I have a reduced level of hearing. That was diagnosed years ago. I

know I complained earlier this year of my eardrum " quivering " and

making me feel sick. Then I'd get pressure in my ears that would feel

like they would explode that would give me bad headaches. My doctor

prescribed Claritin and Flonase. They don't seem to help though. So,

I went to see a Ear, Nose & Throat Specialist. He said my Eustachian

tubes are very swollen and I have a post nasal drip. He said the

Claritan and Flonase kept me from going into full blown infection.

He sprayed something up my nose and was surprised that it didn't " do

the trick " . So he has me on another prescription and nasal spray.

Liquipid (I think) and Rhinocort spray. I have to let him know next

week how I am doing. (so far no difference) He said depending on how

I fare with this he may have to do further tests, including a hearing

test. He even mentioned tubes in my ears.

I am off wheat and dairy. I am just so surprised that this is going

on. My diet, because I am doing the hi-protein/low carb, is even more

restrictive than just the ER plan. I eat meat (beef & chicken,

grilled or baked). I eat salad, mostly Romaine, with mayo dressing -

it is 0 carbs. I eat egg occasionally. Any clues if it is my diet?

I take 3 enhanced energy vitamins per day, plus a calcium/magnesium

tablet, and vitamin C daily. Plus my cardio-complete, the red yeast

rice capsule. However, the ear problems started before I started

ALL or ANY of these supplements.

Help!

deb in New ORleans

In @y..., " Hilda Vosloo " <bethesda@x> wrote:

> BlankBe careful what you do about tinnitus, you might be suffering

from

> Menier's (SP?) Disease. Symptoms include nausea and vomiting,

decline in

> your hearing, being off balance and of course tinnitus. Menier's is

called

> the fluctuating disease. Sometimes you have all the symptoms,

sometimes

> only one, sometimes none. I walked with this for years not knowing

and

> ended up with operations in both ears. In my left ear, I have lost

a huge

> percentage of my hearing due to not having it checked it out soon

enough.

> And yes, salt does make a huge difference. It makes the noise more.

Gingko

> Biloba and Vit E both causes a reduction in the noise level but as

far as I

> know, both are avoids.

>

> Lots of love.

>

> Hilda Vosloo

> Cell: 082 922 9136

> Fax: 27-12-5492621

> Email: hildavosloo@y...

>

October 29, 2001

CORN - corn is usually a biggie for reactions in the

head and sinus area.

Ginger is very good for nausea and motion problems.

Nature's Way has a good formula that has helped a

couple people I know. " Motion Mate " it has ginger and

other stuff. Tumeric is very good for inflamation.

You may have to be strict on the diet for months to

get your head to clear up.

KM

--- mitchede@... wrote:

> Do you have any more info on this Menier's (sp)

> disease? I have heard

> of it, years ago though. I get a little dizzy

> occasionally, have

> headaches that sometimes cause very mild nausea. I

> already know that

> I have a reduced level of hearing. That was

> diagnosed years ago. I

> know I complained earlier this year of my eardrum

> " quivering " and

> making me feel sick. Then I'd get pressure in my

> ears that would feel

> like they would explode that would give me bad

> headaches. My doctor

> prescribed Claritin and Flonase. They don't seem to

> help though. So,

> I went to see a Ear, Nose & Throat Specialist. He

> said my Eustachian

> tubes are very swollen and I have a post nasal drip.

> He said the

> Claritan and Flonase kept me from going into full

> blown infection.

> He sprayed something up my nose and was surprised

> that it didn't " do

> the trick " . So he has me on another prescription

> and nasal spray.

> Liquipid (I think) and Rhinocort spray. I have to

> let him know next

> week how I am doing. (so far no difference) He

> said depending on how

> I fare with this he may have to do further tests,

> including a hearing

> test. He even mentioned tubes in my ears.

>

> I am off wheat and dairy. I am just so surprised

> that this is going

> on. My diet, because I am doing the hi-protein/low

> carb, is even more

> restrictive than just the ER plan. I eat meat (beef

> & chicken,

> grilled or baked). I eat salad, mostly Romaine,

> with mayo dressing -

> it is 0 carbs. I eat egg occasionally. Any clues

> if it is my diet?

>

> I take 3 enhanced energy vitamins per day, plus a

> calcium/magnesium

> tablet, and vitamin C daily. Plus my

> cardio-complete, the red yeast

> rice capsule. However, the ear problems started

> before I started

> ALL or ANY of these supplements.

>

> Help!

>

> deb in New ORleans

>

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

__________________________________________________

October 29, 2001

Deb, I would get a second opinion if I were you. Ask the doctor to

specifically check for Meniers. What you are going through is exactly what

I had. Ironically, the South African doctors misdiagnosed every time. It

was an American doctor practising in SA who got me right. Pity is was too

late for my one ear. And stay away from tubes as far as you can. They

damage the eardrum.

Meniers in simple terms is basically the following: in your inner ear you

have a little sack with fluid which circulates with your blood circulation.

When this sack fills up too much and drains too slow, the fluid runs into

the middle ear, causing all these weird symptoms. With the operation, they

fit a small little Teflon tube from the sack into the blood stream to help

with the draining. That is why the operation is called a Endolymphatic sack

decompression. This is why Gingko and Vit E are prescribed - to up the

blood circulation.

If you don't do anything about this (if this is what you have), eventually

the fluid in the middle ear builds up a pressure, causing damage to the

eardrum. This is what happened in my left ear. Now I have little hearing

in it and a constant noise that will never go away.

Please have yours checked!

Hilda Vosloo

Bethesda cc

Cell: 082 922 9136

Fax: 27-12-5492621

Email: hildavosloo@...

July 16, 2002

Mark,

Always great to be able to just "toss off" having helped a client deal with depression and other symptoms!!

Tinnitus is one of those things that sometimes responds to NF, sometimes doesn't. It is often related to high levels of sustained stress, so T3/T4 would be a reasonable starting place.

Pete

-----Original Message-----From: Mark Waller [mailto:mrwaller@...]Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:22 AM Subject: tinnitus

I have a man I have been treating for depression and other symptoms. After doing a complete assessment, we went to work and successfully treated his issues. Now he would like to work on his problem with tinnitus. Everything I’ve read seems to indicate that t3/t4 is the way to go. Anyone have any input on this?

Mark

July 16, 2002

You take the credit my friend.

tinnitus

I have a man I

have been treating for depression and other symptoms. After doing a complete

assessment, we went to work and successfully treated his issues. Now he would

like to work on his problem with tinnitus. Everything I’ve read seems to

indicate that t3/t4 is the way to go. Anyone have any input on this?

Mark

July 16, 2002

The client always takes the credit. The trainer onsite is the one who has to read what is happening and decide what to do, so you are beside the client. I'm happy if the model I have used for years was helpful to any of you in doing your work, but giving me credit is like giving credit to Naismith for the Lakers winning the NBA championship.

Pete

-----Original Message-----From: Mark Waller [mailto:mrwaller@...]Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 11:06 AM Subject: RE: tinnitus

You take the credit my friend.

-----Original Message-----From: Van Deusen [mailto:pvdadp@...] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 7:38 AM Subject: RE: tinnitus

Mark,

Always great to be able to just "toss off" having helped a client deal with depression and other symptoms!!

Tinnitus is one of those things that sometimes responds to NF, sometimes doesn't. It is often related to high levels of sustained stress, so T3/T4 would be a reasonable starting place.

Pete

-----Original Message-----From: Mark Waller [mailto:mrwaller@...]Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:22 AM Subject: tinnitus

I have a man I have been treating for depression and other symptoms. After doing a complete assessment, we went to work and successfully treated his issues. Now he would like to work on his problem with tinnitus. Everything I’ve read seems to indicate that t3/t4 is the way to go. Anyone have any input on this?

Mark

July 17, 2002

Pete,

What do you recommend training at T3/T4? Frequencies up/down?

Thanks,

Lynn

July 18, 2002

Lynn,

Same as always with T3/T4: very low frequencies (2-5 Hz) down and starting with SMR as your augment and reducing the training frequency until you find something that feels like it works.

Pete

-----Original Message-----From: lgoldhamme@... [mailto:lgoldhamme@...]Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 2:12 AM Subject: Re: tinnitusPete, What do you recommend training at T3/T4? Frequencies up/down?Thanks,Lynn

December 5, 2002

I have had episodes of tinnitus throughout my ten + years of CFIDS.

Usually, nothing at all helps, and after many weeks or months it just

relieves itself. I don't have much ringing, but a buzzing, the

sensation that there is water in my ear all the time, and a

fluttering/humming sensation that is hard to describe. Anyway, I

recently had an episode, and I decided to see what the health food

store had to offer for ear problems. They didn't have anything in the

adult section, but in the kids' section had a homeopathic remedy and a

supplement called " Ear-a-saurus " -- dinosaur shaped chewable ear

tablets. Since they looked tasty, I decided to buy them. Basically,

the only ingredient is xylitol, which support normals levels of

bacteria in the ear. I didn't expect them to work but they DID. I

had to go through at least half a bottle (I took twice the dose for

kids) before I really noticed a difference, but the tinnitus is

totally gone, and generally it lasts for much longer than it did this

time, so I'm fairly sure it wasn't a fluke. I recommend you find

something with xylitol in it. It is sometimes used as a sweetener in

diabetic gum or candy. The dinosaur pills are also cool though.

December 7, 2002

Youl may want to check out Xlear, a Xylitol nasal wash(www.xlear.com). What

I've read about it shows it to be useful for infections in the ears, allergies,

etc...And you can also buy xylitol in powder form from Beyond A Century, it's

much cheaper that way. However I don't think of it as supporting bacteria,

rather(at least with xylitol gum) it is a sweetener that tooth decay causing

bacteria don't/can't trive on.

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