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Thanks for this information. I'm also wondering about protocols that would

activate the medial forebrain bundle, more on the midline. I think of dopamine

as being related to SMR frequencies. Training at Cz or Fz might also have some

interesting effects.

What are others doing with Parkinson's if you are seeing it?

Pete

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Pete and Melis

Remember that tinnitus is a very frequent side effect of many Meds, also

sleeping less than needed.

As you say, my 2 cents!

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We are working with a lady to try moderating her tinnitus, which is caused

(in her case) by a brain tumor. The prognosis for her overall health is

grim, but being able to reduce the ringing in her ears would at least offer

her a reduction in her total stress burden. So far, we are seeing

intermittent " success, " but cannot attribute that success to neurofeedback

with certainty. If we find any promising approach(es) I will bring this up

again, later.

Dave Myer

Boston Neurofeedback

At 12:25 AM 1/21/03 -0300, you wrote:

>Pete and Melis

>

>Remember that tinnitus is a very frequent side effect of many Meds, also

>sleeping less than needed.

>

>As you say, my 2 cents!

>

>Best

>

> tinnitus

>

>

> Has anyone had success in treating tinnitus? I have a client who is

> interested in trying NF but I have not done this type of work

> before...any

> suggestions? Thanks,

>

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Which is the location and the name of the tumor. Is Temporal, Acoustic

Neurinoma.

If temporal, we could try , binaural beat brain entrainment also! With NFK and

if she don't feel bad AVS.

tinnitus

>

>

> Has anyone had success in treating tinnitus? I have a client who is

> interested in trying NF but I have not done this type of work

> before...any

> suggestions? Thanks,

>

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With Med they give L-Dopa, that later it becomes Dopamine and the IMAO B

Selegiline, that increase the Dopamine in all the Brain.This aloud the Parkinson

patients to receive lower doses of L-Dopa.

The crazy thing is that Drs don't say that if you take Selegiline , before you

are 45 (As I do and my wife and all my dear friends that hears this concept) you

will stop the death of the 13% each 10 years, so you will reach 65 with your 23

% intact.

With 65% You don't have Parkinson , you will have some tremors, so tis23 % make

the great difference.

Beyond that Selegiline is Immune Booster and increases the life of Flies, Rats

and Dogs

20% . Also have a great effect on tumor reduction.

About protocols I can say that all protocols for Prefrontal Cortex or that have

on prefrontal cortex the " Ritalin " effect, will for sure be an indirect

demonstration that they are increasing

the Prefrontal Dopamine.

But is not the Same that the Mesolimbic Dopamine, that is the one we have to

increase to get rid of alcoholism or also Cocaine addiction: the ones that

used Peniston Protocol, that is booster of the pathway I said on the other mail

: any protocol that BOOST mesolimbic Dopamine will help Them, ,also the AVS , we

have seen in our BRAIN TOPOS that AVS 10HZ, that activates a lot of Dopamine

patterns trough the Broadman 17 and 18, (O1 O2) with Light & sound at 10 HZ.

This goes directly to the Thalamus via the geniculo calcarine fassiculum, and to

theThalamic pacemakers.

This 50% increase in Alpha may represents the increase of the Dopamine Boosting

because of the exhilarating feeling that also there is attached to it.

Also if you have seen this clients with big essential tremors, they increase a

lot when they become nervous or have anxiety. So treating this anxiety will

benefit a lot.

.

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Pete and Melis

Remember that tinnitus is a very frequent side effect of many Meds, also

sleeping less than needed.

As you say, my 2 cents!

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I didnt ask wich kind of tinnitus, how they sounds like, rings, crikets????

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Thanks for the feedback re tinnitus protocols...this individual has

experienced intense ringing in his ears since childhood...he's now in his

30s...both his grandfather and father have had the same experience.?! I'll

let you know if I get any good results! Ciao,

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A common neural mechanism for different types of tinnitus, nerve cells became

more sensitive to acetylcholine, a brain chemical, in the cochlear nucleus. The

researchers believe that if acetylcholine is involved in common mechanisms of

tinnitus, future tinnitus treatments could be designed using drugs related to

acetylcholine.

In a database of 1687 tinnitus patients, no known cause was identified for 43%

of the cases, and noise exposure was the cause for 24% of the cases.

Severe Ear Infections:

Many tinnitus cases onset after severe ear infections. But this may also be

related to the use of ototoxic antibiotics.

High Blood Cholesterol:

High blood cholesterol clogs arteries that supply oxygen to the nerves of the

inner ear. Reducing your cholesterol level may reduce your tinnitus.

Vascular Abnormalities:

Arteries may press too closely against the inner ear machinery or nerves. This

is sometimes correctable by delicate surgery.

Stress:

Stress is not a direct cause of tinnitus, but it will generally make an

already existing case worse.

Diet and Other Lifestyle Choices:

Like stress above, a poor diet can worsen an existing case of tinnitus.

Alcohol, tobacco, caffeine, quinine/tonic water, high fat, high sodium can all

make tinnitus worse in some people.

Intracranial Hypertension:

Intracranial hypertension can cause pulsatile tinnitus. If you can stop your

tinnitus by slight pressure to the neck on the affected side, that is an

indication. The definite way to find out is if you get a spinal tap and your

Opening Pressure is higher than 200. Allergic Reactions

Food:

Specific foods may trigger tinnitus. Problem foods include red wine,

grain-based spirits, cheese, and chocolate. One contributor reported hearing

tones after consuming honey. Another contributor notes that these same foods are

on the list known to trigger migraine headaches; additional migraine foods

include soy and anything including soy, MSG, very ripe bananas, avocados, and

citrus fruits.

Foods Rich in Salicylates:

There is a long list of foods that are supposed to be " rich " in salicylates.

See the Shulman book listed below for details. [Ed. note: I'm not listing the

foods here since no data is given on exactly how rich the foods are, i.e. " 13

mangoes = 1000mg aspirin " as a hypothetical example.]

Aspartame:

Some people allege (quite controversially) that the artificial sugar

substitute aspartame is linked to tinnitus, vertigo, and many other serious

problems (I agree). Marijuana:

Marijuana usage may worsen pre-existing cases of tinnitus.

Medication

Ototoxic Drugs:

Many prescription and over-the-counter drugs may cause tinnitus and/or hearing

loss that may be permanent or may disappear when the dosage is reduced or

eliminated. Before starting treatment with any prescription drug, tinnitus

sufferers should always ask their physician and/or pharmacist about the

potential for ototoxic side effects. These drugs include; salicylate analgesics

(higher doses of aspirin), naproxen sodium (Naprosyn, Aleve), ibuprofen, many

other non-steroidal anti-inflammatories, aminoglycoside antibiotics,

anti-depressants, loop-inhibiting diuretics, quinine/anti-malarials, oral

contraceptives, and chemotherapy.

Diseases

Lyme Disease:

Lyme is a parasitic, tick-borne disease, which in the United States is most

commonly seen in eastern states. In some cases, tinnitus has been a side-effect

of Lyme.

Noise Exposure

Overexposure to Loud Noises:

Repeated exposure to loud noises such as guns, artillery, aircraft, lawn

mowers, movie theaters, amplified music, heavy construction, etc, can cause

permanent hearing damage. Some people report auditory fatigue from driving

automobiles long distances with the windows down. Anybody regularly exposed to

these conditions should consider wearing ear plugs or other hearing protection.

MRI, CAT, and Other Non-invasive Scanning Machines:

These high-tech machines may take great images, but they are very, very

LOUD. Do not attempt this type of imaging without wearing approved earplugs; any

competent imaging facility should be able to supply the earplugs. [Note: Mark

Bixby reports that he had knee MRIs done, and even with earplugs and his head

outside the bulk of the machine it was very loud.]

Growths/Tumors

Acoustic Neuromas:

Acoustic neuromas are small, slow growing benign tumors that press against or

invade the auditory nerves. If your tinnitus is only in one ear, you should see

your physician to rule this one out. An MRI will probably be required for a

definitive diagnosis, but one contributor's ENT felt that an MRI wasn't

warranted unless frequent dizziness was present. Acoustic neuromas are removable

by surgery but involve a risk of hearing loss. Doing nothing should be

considered an option by elderly patients since these tumors grow so slowly.

Glomous Tumors:

These benign tumors of the glomus body can cause pulsatile tinnitus. They are

confirmed with a CAT scan or other imaging, and may be surgically removable by a

delicate procedure.

Otosclerosis:

Otosclerosis is a bony growth around the footplate of the stapes (one of the 3

middle ear bones). This footplate forms the seal that separates the middle ear

space from the inner ear. When the footplate moves normally, the sound

vibrations are passed from the middle ear " chain " of bones into the fluid of the

inner ear. If the footplate is fixated, the vibrations cannot pass into the

inner ear as well and hence a resulting hearing loss. Tinnitus may also be

involved.

Ciao

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Thanks for the feedback re tinnitus protocols...this individual has

experienced intense ringing in his ears since childhood...he's now in his

30s...both his grandfather and father have had the same experience.?! I'll

let you know if I get any good results! Ciao,

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> i have a friend with noise induced tinnitus.loud noise makes it

painful, but

> he says the ringing is always present.

>

> aside from ozone insufflation what are some things that he can do.

>

> i never had tinnitus, but when mercury starts moving around in my

head i get

> temporary ringing.

mercury is what comes to mind, for me, immediately.

I think it is considered (at least in " alternative " domains) to

be a pretty established connection.

he can get a hair test:

autism/files/HOW_TO_hair_test

regards,

Moria

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>i have a friend with noise induced tinnitus.loud noise makes it painful, but

>he says the ringing is always present.

>

>aside from ozone insufflation what are some things that he can do.

>

>i never had tinnitus, but when mercury starts moving around in my head i get

>temporary ringing.

>

Cranio Sacral work can be very helpful for tinnitus, have found along

with myofascial release a very powerful combination.

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sure is....

plus spinal problems.

and acidity here, too

marlene

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> > i have a friend with noise induced tinnitus.loud noise makes it

> painful, but

> > he says the ringing is always present.

> >

> > aside from ozone insufflation what are some things that he can do.

> >

> > i never had tinnitus, but when mercury starts moving around in my

> head i get

> > temporary ringing.

>

> mercury is what comes to mind, for me, immediately.

> I think it is considered (at least in " alternative " domains) to

> be a pretty established connection.

>

> he can get a hair test:

> autism/files/HOW_TO_hair_test

>

> regards,

> Moria

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Tinnitus is one of those symptoms which can have many causes. Sometimes it

responds very quickly to brain training. Other times nothing seems to work.

Pete

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tinnitus

Has anybody worked with tinnitus successfully? I just heard of

someone who was doing a protocol for a man with manic depression and

his ear ringing disappeared as a result of the training.

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In a message dated 11/23/03 6:04:00 PM Central Standard Time,

drbob@... writes:

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Anyone have an effective treatment for tinnitus??????????/ >>

Any history of elevated calcium, kidney disease or previous gastrectomy?

Anglen

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Hi Rosemary:

The tinnitus question depends on whether the problem is cortical or at the

level of the receptors or auditory nerve. A good audiologist should be able to

make that determination.

How are things going? I sent you an e-mail a few weeks ago in response to

your e-mail about getting something going in the Dayton area. Never heard back

so

don't know if you got it or not.

Do you know where to get in touch with Glen? I called and left word on his

answering machine, but have never heard from him since. He always calls. I know

he is going through a rough time and wanted to be supportive of him.

Finally, do you have a current phone number? I tried the previous one and it

was not working or someone else had it.

Regards,

Hal

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Hi Rosemary:

The tinnitus question depends on whether the problem is cortical or at the

level of the receptors or auditory nerve. A good audiologist should be able to

make that determination.

How are things going? I sent you an e-mail a few weeks ago in response to

your e-mail about getting something going in the Dayton area. Never heard back

so

don't know if you got it or not.

Do you know where to get in touch with Glen? I called and left word on his

answering machine, but have never heard from him since. He always calls. I know

he is going through a rough time and wanted to be supportive of him.

Finally, do you have a current phone number? I tried the previous one and it

was not working or someone else had it.

Regards,

Hal

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Mark,

I wasn't disagreeing with your statement about F7 and F8 being related to

tinnitus, though they would still be considered prefrontal, not necessarily

temporal. I was simply stating that they are not part of the auditory cortex.

Since there is a fair amount of data suggesting that in many people tinnitus is

a stress-related issue, I would expect that hot temporal lobes would be a common

finding, and that seems consistent with your reference.

Thanks for sharing this.

Pete

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> From: " Mark Baddeley " <baddeley@...>

> Date: 2005/06/15 Wed PM 07:50:21 EDT

> " BRAINTRAINER GROUP " < >

> Subject: Tinnitus

>

> Further to our discussion. My colleague has provided the following.

Try Schulman, A. at.el. Quantitative electroencephalography: preliminary

report - tinnitus. Int Tinnitus J 2002;8(2):77-86 which states among other

things;

'relative power was increased or decreased in the temporal region of

10/21 patients and increased or decreased in temporal frontal regions in

20/21 patients... "

Mark

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Thanks I understood the correction. I tend to have lots of rusty information stored in my synapses and inaccuracies often tumble out as well .

Thanks and regards

Mark

Tinnitus> > Further to our discussion. My colleague has provided the following.Try Schulman, A. at.el. Quantitative electroencephalography: preliminary report - tinnitus. Int Tinnitus J 2002;8(2):77-86 which states among other things; 'relative power was increased or decreased in the temporal region of 10/21 patients and increased or decreased in temporal frontal regions in 20/21 patients..."Mark

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Cathryn:

Please share your info from the tinnitus conference - I see lots of patients

with this. One thing that has just worked so far--I've only done it with one

patient---- is thiosininum homeopathic 6C - from her case history, my

thinking was perhaps a buildup of scar tissue - lo and behold it helped this

patient's tinnitis - she did it for a month, then stopped and it started to

come back - I'm hoping that if we continue, possibly she will be able to get

off of the hp.

Judy Fulop, ND

Chicago

>From: " doctor_coe " <doctor_coe@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Tinnitus

>Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 01:15:52 -0000

>

>I have a 59 y.o. female with constant tinnitus. Regular work-up with

>her MD showed not remarkable findings. She is under alot of stress at

>work and suffers from hot flashes. She had a complete hysterectomy 20

>years ago and otherwise is in good health. I started her on BTG's and

>Unda's 10, 16 and 1000, thinking that the tinnitus was related to

>menopause, lack of kidney yin, etc. Patient began drops, felt a gouty

>sensation in big toe. This progressed to burning in her mouth and back

>of throat (patient is not sensitive to EtOH - OK with wine, spirits).

>Drops could not be tolerated in water at even 1 gtt qd. Patient is

>having difficulty eating " rough foods " - it has been 3 weeks since

>stopping drops. Patient had shingles on face 15 years ago - is she

>draining from this illness??

>

>I am taking tinnitus teleconference in Feb but hoping for some help

>before them.

>

>Thanks,

>Cathryn Coe, ND

>Langley, BC

>

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Kat,

I've never heard of that, do you know whats in it? I have tinnitus in one ear

since my last cold/flu/fever about a year and few months ago, obviously I'm

stuck with it, nothing so far helps. Where do you get this ?

Marcia

Tinnitus

For those of you with tinnitus, could you tell me if anything helps to

get rid of the ringing?

I use RingStop, and it gets rid of about 80% of the ringing (i.e., it

stops me going insane).

Thanks,

Kat.

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Mine got better when I got hearing aids. Although with time it has

gotten better and better. Unfortunately I think that might be because

the fried nerve endings that were causing it are now dead.

katrinanon wrote:

> For those of you with tinnitus, could you tell me if anything helps to

> get rid of the ringing?

>

> I use RingStop, and it gets rid of about 80% of the ringing (i.e., it

> stops me going insane).

>

> Thanks,

> Kat.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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It's Chinese herbs w/ ALA and some other stuff. You can Google it,

I just searched Whole Foods website and they don't have it. My

ENT, who also has tinnitus, didn't mention any treatment, but

not unusual for an MD to not recommend herbs or supplements.

Mike C

>

> Kat,

>

> I've never heard of that, do you know whats in it? I have

tinnitus in one ear since my last cold/flu/fever about a year and

few months ago, obviously I'm stuck with it, nothing so far helps.

Where do you get this ?

>

> Marcia

> Tinnitus

>

>

> For those of you with tinnitus, could you tell me if anything

helps to

> get rid of the ringing?

>

> I use RingStop, and it gets rid of about 80% of the ringing

(i.e., it

> stops me going insane).

>

> Thanks,

> Kat.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Kat,

This may not be at all helpful, but I have had tinnitus for as long as I can

remember. The key to my sanity is white noise. I just always have to have some

kind of white noise (ie fan, air purifier, ect) and it seemes to equal it out.

If I ever happen to get stuck in a silent room though, I very quickly have to

find a way out!

Take care,

Dawn M

For those of you with tinnitus, could you tell me if anything helps to> get rid

of the ringing?> > I use RingStop, and it gets rid of about 80% of the ringing

(i.e., it> stops me going insane).> > Thanks,> Kat.

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Kat, Dawn, et al, About tinnitus, some get relief with ginkgo biloba. Mel

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Hi Kat,

This may not be at all helpful, but I have had tinnitus for as long as I can

remember. The key to my sanity is white noise. I just always have to have

some kind of white noise (ie fan, air purifier, ect) and it seemes to equal

it out. If I ever happen to get stuck in a silent room though, I very

quickly have to find a way out!

Take care,

Dawn M

For those of you with tinnitus, could you tell me if anything helps to> get

rid of the ringing?> > I use RingStop, and it gets rid of about 80% of the

ringing (i.e., it> stops me going insane).> > Thanks,> Kat.

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Marcia,

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Kat.

>

> Kat,

>

> I've never heard of that, do you know whats in it? I have tinnitus

in one ear since my last cold/flu/fever about a year and few months

ago, obviously I'm stuck with it, nothing so far helps. Where do you

get this ?

>

> Marcia

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There is information about tinnitus available on the Internet - I just can't recall any good sites right now.

I think it important that you first find out what type of tinnitus you are dealing with. Tinnitus may be a result of being able to hear blood flowing through vessels - yes, some people can hear it. Tinnitus may result from damage to the inner ear. Tinnitus may be caused by neurological sources as described by Oliver Sacks in The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat. High dosages of aspirin can cause tinnitus. A differential diagnosis with the help of a hearing specialist may be warranted as your fist step.//Peder

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http://www.pubmedcentral.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed & pubmedid=15971936

Here's an link that was posted a few months back. Has anyone had any

success training at the temporal lobes?

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Tinnitus

> Hi My name's Trisha Calver and I completed the training with Pete at

> the Gold Coast over Easter this year. I am hoping someone can advise

> me about a protocol for tinnitus. Has any one successfully worked with

> someone who has this condition?

>

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I tried it, didn't help. I've been meaning to ask, I can't remember, does the right temporal handle the right ear or is it the left temporal?

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-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of DuncanSent: Friday, May 12, 2006 11:05 AM Subject: Re: Tinnitushttp://www.pubmedcentral.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed & pubmedid=15971936Here's an link that was posted a few months back. Has anyone had any success training at the temporal lobes?~ Tinnitus> Hi My name's Trisha Calver and I completed the training with Pete at> the Gold Coast over Easter this year. I am hoping someone can advise> me about a protocol for tinnitus. Has any one successfully worked with> someone who has this condition?>>>>>>>>>>

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