Re: Your opinion on sign language

[Guest guest]

My opinion on SL is I wish that my husband and I knew it. I took some basic

courses years ago in college and he's never had any instruction in it. But

between college and getting married is when I was implanted(recently had my 5th

anniversary with my CI). And I think knowing at least some sign would be

invaluable for us.

It would be so nice to be able to communicate in bed while my CI is stored.

Just to turn on the lights and be able to sign what you need to instead of

grabbing stuff and putting it on. If I ever find a signing course around here

i will sign us up for it.

If we ever had a child who was deaf, I know that SL would a major priority

for us.

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our daughter (5y) has had her CI for about 1.5y now & we use spoken & ASL &

it's workign great for us - whenever there's times when the CI shuts off

(batteries, malfunction, et.c), we've then got sign to use as a backup -

whenever

she's in the tub/pool, we use asl a lot! - for us, it's wonderful

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I think of sign language as a communication tool, just like a cochlear

implant and hearing aids. The more you have, the less opportunities

you have of missing something.

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 1:22 AM, riskygirl3002 <nah1248@...> wrote:

> Hey everybody-

>

> I am JUST curious to see what is all of your opinion on sign language.

>

> I mean, do you consider it to be a crutch?

>

> Words won't break my bones. Be brutally honest. I want to hear them

> all. I look forward to hearing to all of your opinions.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi !

I have been using sign language for years and love it! It's tricky with

the brain and CI training. I realized on phone convos that I was always

dependent on the signs and not listeing to the voices or sound via my CI

on the VP-VCO (Videophone-voice carry over).

So, now when on phone I use webcaptel to force my brain to listen,

before the words come up 3 sec later.

But, I like the added security to have sign, same as lisa mentioned.

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,

In my graduate program at Gallaudet, we learned that children are apt to

learn language earlier if they receive sign language first. They say temper

tantrums with two-year-olds can be reduced if there is a sign communication.

And it is true sign can be helpful for times when the CI is off. The

unfortunate reality is that most families with a deaf child are hearing, and

if family members learn sign, it is usually only the mother. I have spoken

to friends in this situation, who found themselves carrying the

responsibility of communicating with the child because the husband and

sibling will not learn it.

[Guest guest]

,

That's cool. What did you study at Gallaudet?

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[Guest guest]

,

You have a valid point. I lost my hearing at 44 and my husband and I

learned a little bit of sign. It definitely comes in handy. But both of my

kids refused. I was hurt by it and attributed to laziness on their part.

One is 24 and the other 13. When I don't have processor on and they try to

talk to me, I tell them, you should learn some sign language and it wouldn't

be an issue. It probably sounds harsh, but they are old enough to

understand where I'm coming from.

,

As far as my feelings on ASL, I know very, very little and wish I knew more.

So I'm self-teaching myself. We have a Community College that offers an ASL

class but the times have never worked into my schedule. Since losing my

hearing 1 year ago, I think a lot about the fact that if something were to

happen with my processor, I'd be so lost. I could communicate on paper, but

it would be easier using ASL. Yes, you are definitely right, that it is an

asset some jobs, especially the FBI. My friend is an agent and she's

learning with me and trying to teach some to her fellow agents. She speaks

4 languages, so she's learning faster than me.

Nina

Re: Your opinion on sign language

> ,

> In my graduate program at Gallaudet, we learned that children are apt to

> learn language earlier if they receive sign language first. They say

> temper

> tantrums with two-year-olds can be reduced if there is a sign

> communication.

> And it is true sign can be helpful for times when the CI is off. The

> unfortunate reality is that most families with a deaf child are hearing,

> and

> if family members learn sign, it is usually only the mother. I have spoken

> to friends in this situation, who found themselves carrying the

> responsibility of communicating with the child because the husband and

> sibling will not learn it.

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Nina,

I am sorry to hear about your husband and your children. I would be

disappointed also... that just really sucks. I know that message wasn't

directed to me. But I couldn't help not reading it...

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[Guest guest]

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ASL as a crutch?

Hardly. Sign language is just that, a language. Like Spanish, Mandarin or

Tagalog.

Personally, I feel that if you live in this country, and you speak another

language as your primary language, you should also be able to communicate in

English.

Similarly, if you deal with deaf people on a regular basis, you should have

at least some knowledge of ASL to help you communicate (much like living in

Los Angeles means a familiarity with Spanish is a good idea).

Kaplan

Hearing Loss Association of Los Angeles

http://www.hear2009.com

[Guest guest]

, I studied School Psychology.

Nina, your adult children resisting sign is more the norm in the hearing

wworld. To them, sign is different and takes effort, and it's easier to do

the minimal.

[Guest guest]

My son is almost 14 and has had his CI since age 3. He is in a total

communication class, which is the deaf/hard of hearing program for our

county and his grade level. He has expressed interest in learning sign

language, mostly so he can " talk " to his deaf friends who do not have CI's.

I told him that it wasn't going to be easy for him to gain fluency and that

it would be like learning a foreign language--he would need to practice it

in order to become fluent. I am also needing to take an ASL class as a

pre-requisite for my Master's, as I am going to school to become a deaf/hard

of hearing teacher. I hope that both my son and I can learn ASL and learn

about ALL the facets of what being deaf means.

Oh, by the way, my son also wants to learn to speak Japanese!

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On 5/16/08, <wdywms@...> wrote:

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> , I studied School Psychology.

>

> Nina, your adult children resisting sign is more the norm in the hearing

> wworld. To them, sign is different and takes effort, and it's easier to do

> the minimal.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I have been HOH since I was three and I never learned sign language. I was

taught to read lips at a very young age. I wish I could sign and my children

wanted me to learn also, but I never did because no one else knew it and it

wouldn't do me any good. Now I work with special education and one of my

students is profoundly deaf. He has his own sign interpreter. After watching

them and talking to them, I wish even more I could sign. So, no, I don't

think it is a crutch anymore than my lip reading is.

Vickie

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In a message dated 5/16/2008 1:26:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

nah1248@... writes:

Hey everybody-

I am JUST curious to see what is all of your opinion on sign language.

I mean, do you consider it to be a crutch?

Words won't break my bones. Be brutally honest. I want to hear them

all. I look forward to hearing to all of your opinions.

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[Guest guest]

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This is a great time period for a student to learn sign language. Also

if your son interacts with his deaf peers on a regular basis, he will

learn ASL faster. That's how great interpreters do it, interacting with

deaf people on a regular basis.

I'm glad to hear that your son wants to learn sign language. Same with

you.

--

[Guest guest]

I went to a mainstream school that refused to teach me sign and now I

wish I was taught sign language. When I lost my hearing, I spent

seven long months barely understanding people with lipreading. Even

my mother presented a problem. I really felt that if I knew how to

sign, I wouldn't have been in such a pickle.

Now I am planning on learning ASL because I don't want to be put in

that position again. I'm thinking ahead in case my implant,

processor fails or I lose my insurance. Anything can happen and I

want to be prepared for it! I'm signing up for ASL classes and going

to meet up with some friends to teach me.

Abbie

8.27.07 -Left ear implanted with HiRes90k

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>

> Hey everybody-

>

> I am JUST curious to see what is all of your opinion on sign language.

>

> I mean, do you consider it to be a crutch?

>

> Words won't break my bones. Be brutally honest. I want to hear them

> all. I look forward to hearing to all of your opinions.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My daughter is 7 and has a CI. We never learned sign language and we really do

not have a need for it because she taught herself to read lips before we knew

she was hearing impaired. She seems to communicate fine when the CI is off.

We are busy learning a second language with her...spanish. She may chose to

learn sign language as she gets older, but right now, she is not around anyone

who knows sign language so it would be difficult to learn if it was not used

more regularly. (she is mainstreamed)

Caryn

[Guest guest]

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Thank you for your answer. I'm currently a single mom who has decided to do

something with my life and am working on my BA degree. I want to earn my

Master's and be a teacher of the deaf/hard of hearing. I've learned that I

need an ASL class for my Master's, so it is perfect that I need this class

and my son also wants to learn. I know at least I will have someone at home

to practice with. He does have several students in his class that use ASL

as their primary means of communication, so hopefully he will also be able

to teach me more vocabulary that I may or may not get in the class. I just

think it is so cool to be multi-lingual, whether it is ASL, Spanish (which I

also know some from HS days), or whatever language you wish to learn. My

son is also interested in Japanese culture and wants to learn Japanese. He

is an incredible artist and loves to draw the Japanese characters, even if

we aren't sure of the pronunciations.

Yes, I'm hoping he can utilize sign language maybe in a career. He actually

wants to be an illustrator, so maybe he can incorporate those two things and

perhaps illustrate books for children who want to learn about deafness and

ASL. Just an idea...

Have a great weekend! :-)

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On 5/16/08, <nah1248@...> wrote:

>

> -

>

> This is a great time period for a student to learn sign language. Also

> if your son interacts with his deaf peers on a regular basis, he will

> learn ASL faster. That's how great interpreters do it, interacting with

> deaf people on a regular basis.

>

> I'm glad to hear that your son wants to learn sign language. Same with

> you.

> --

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I think of sign language as a communication tool, just like a cochlear

> implant and hearing aids. The more you have, the less opportunities

> you have of missing something.

sign language is NO tool but real language.. It's natural sign

language! ASL ..

[Guest guest]

>

> My daughter is 7 and has a CI. We never learned sign language and we

really do not have a need for it because she taught herself to read

lips before we knew she was hearing impaired. She seems to communicate

fine when the CI is off.

>

> We are busy learning a second language with her...spanish. She may

chose to learn sign language as she gets older, but right now, she is

not around anyone who knows sign language so it would be difficult to

learn if it was not used more regularly. (she is mainstreamed)

>

For daugater sign language is not different. It's difficult language

for her. Sign language is very important for your daughter. the read

lips make more energy. I don't recommand this ..

[Guest guest]

Vicki-

Do you get exhausted from lipreading all day?

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[Guest guest]

Good point.

In the dictionary it says a tool is " anything used as a means of

accomplishing a task or purpose. " To me a " communication tool " is

anything that gets a message from one person to another - either

receptively or expressively. So I would revise my examples to include

written English, spoken English and any other type of language. You

can also add computers, phones, pagers and a lot of other things to

that list.

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 9:16 AM, edwtie <edwtie@...> wrote:

>

>

>>

>> I think of sign language as a communication tool, just like a cochlear

>> implant and hearing aids. The more you have, the less opportunities

>> you have of missing something.

>

> sign language is NO tool but real language.. It's natural sign

> language! ASL ..

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

No, I have just always done it and it is just part of how I function every

day. The only thing I do notice is that it bothers people when I watch their

mouths!

Vickie

In a message dated 5/20/2008 12:15:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

nah1248@... writes:

Vicki-

Do you get exhausted from lipreading all day?

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