Vickie

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Vickie I am pretty sure the one she told you about was temazepam also

called restoril. They are one and the same. They worked well for me

at 30 mg for over two years, then they stopped and now they switched

me to ambien wich for now is working. Going with no sleep sucks.

Other good ones to think about are clonazepam(klonopin) and sonata.

Sonata though I am not sure they will keep you on long term, ask

about these but the restoril may be the best for you for now.

Good luck

In , " Vickie "

<vickiemsmith17@h...> wrote:

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Isnt restoril an antipressent? Oh hell, who cares as long as it works! I love the ambien cuz I am asleep within 10 mins of taking it. It works soooo fast for me, when it was working. I took 10mg at 11:30 last night, woke up at 1:00 wide awake, ate a sandwich, was straving!!! took another 5mg and woke up at 4:30. Everyone at work is avoiding me like the plague today!

>From: "naturalbeauty38"

>Reply- > >Subject: Vickie >Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 16:27:44 -0000 > >Vickie I am pretty sure the one she told you about was temazepam also >called restoril. They are one and the same. They worked well for me >at 30 mg for over two years, then they stopped and now they switched >me to ambien wich for now is working. Going with no sleep sucks. >Other good ones to think about are clonazepam(klonopin) and sonata. >Sonata though I am not sure they will keep you on long term, ask >about these but the restoril may be the best for you for now. >Good luck > > > > > > > > >In , "Vickie " > wrote: > > > Have fun customizing MSN Messenger — learn how here!

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: The name should say it all, huh. I jsut realized that is what my nephew takes to sleep. He is six and on Ritilan. They lived with me for a few years after he was born and I can not remember him once getting a peaceful nights sleep until he was put on Restoril. I have a hot RX for 60 15mg in my hand...Thanks for your help.

Vickie

>From: "naturalbeauty38"

>Reply- > >Subject: Re: Vickie >Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 18:45:03 -0000 > >Nope restoril is not an antidepressant. It is a benzodiazepine, as >are ambien,klonopin,valium, and a bunch of others I cannot think of. >I have a bunch of 10mg valium I got for anxiety when I was stressing >on finals and they do the same thing to me, knock me out in 10 >minutes but I wake up several hours later, it sucks. Ambien is the >one that really does still work for me, I fear though eventually it >too, will stop. Antidepressants are SSRI's(selective serotonin >reuptake inhibitors) and they work very good for sleep as well, >trazadone is one, also elavil, but they have nasty side effects on >me, elevil will make you fat and trazadone makes me too spacy! > >Good luck on the restoril. Be sure to make your Dr give you a script >for the 15 mg with the option to take 30mg a night, 15mg was never >enough for me. So I needed the 60 pills a month rather than 30. >hugs > > > > > > > > , "Vickie "

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Thanks for the E-mail. I was shocked when the colonic started hurting me so badly, I just couldn't push anything out for the longest time. I was dying to rip that tube out, but the 2 girls helping me were saying gentle things and holding my hands. I couldn't even drive home because I was so weak.

With my body, I never know what to expect. I feel like every day is a new challenge to see what's going to fall apart next!

I started have all over joint pain when I was 30 (I had just gotten married and was so happy with my new life in Las Vegas) and within 5 yrs. my attitude towards everything in life has changed. I am so bitter and angry. I need to get a new outlook on my situation, I just can't find ANY good in it!!

I'm so glad that they worked out for you-are you going to do anymore?

Love, Daryl

Re: I'm pooped out today!! >Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 17:02:03 -0800 > >Re: To ... I don't want to put anyone off of colonics because they help so many people, but I just got my 1st one and I had some problems! I wondered if anyone else here has been through this. Everyone told me that they don't hurt, and you'll feel great afterward, even my husb. went to this place last week to get one to check it out for me. > >I was a little nervous, but I was really hoping for some pain relief. I'll try not to be graphic because it's embarrassing to talk about. > When the water started going in, nothing was happening-I started getting very hot and dizzy-then the stomach cramps started, really painful-I rang the call button and when she came in, I told her what was happening-she >said that all the water was inside but there was nothing coming out (I'm sorry, I know this is gross) > I started sweating and pushing as hard as I could-luckily, the owner >used to have a very bad candida problem, and said that her first 3 colonics were very difficult. She kept telling me to just let it happen, but it didn't! I threw up all over my gown and started crying, I said that I just wanted it out-she was holding my hand and told me to stick with it cause it seemed like I had alot of toxins. This went on for at least 15 min.and then I saw these rock-like things go into the machine. She said that she could tell I had been eating raw veggies all week and they don't digest in my stomach so I should stop. Because of my detoxing. I was eating big salads every day, I figured raw is the best way to get all the vitamins. Things seem to get more and more complicated every day... >So, I stayed there on the mat for about 20 more min. because I felt too shaky to drive. I looked like such a mess, I had mascara running all down my face and I was embarrassed to see the owner again! She acted like it was an every day thing. She did say that it will get better every time, and it would really help me. I made an appt. for Mon. but I'm terrified that it is going to feel like that again. > >Has anyone ever experienced something like that? I felt like I was going to explode! Should I go back? She knows a good herbalist who helped her with Candida, so I will call him. > >One more thing, has anyone heard of a powder drink product called Ambrotose? It's made by Mannatech, and I've had 3 different people tell me that it changed their lives. > >Thanks for being my friends and understanding all this weird stuff that I'm going through, you're the best! >Love, Daryl > > > > > > > > > > /files/ > > To view links to related websites on breast implants, go to: > /links > > To search past messages in the Archives, go to /messages > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >

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Thos atibitoics made me pretty ill too and i have a normal stomach so

I can imagine. What about IV antibitoics, is that even an option for

someone in your situation? I wonder? I took the cocktail of Flagyl,

Tetracycline and aciphex. It sucked, I was sick every freaking day.

As for the supps, who knows, I am not so convinced supps work for all

of us and with a gastric you know that you don't absorb things the

way you should and I know I have a major absorption problem as well

maybe that is why they did not help us, who knows. I did not have as

severe as issues as you and I am sure that has to do with your

gastric bypass.

I will keep you in my prayers I just don't think anything else other

than the strong antibitocs is going to kill that crap.

I hated that treatment though it was a nightmare!

YUCK

In , Vickie <gracie17db@y...>

wrote:

> : I had lap bypass 6 1/2 years ago. My surgeron helped

perfect the surgery. He teaches all over the world and is one of the

most caring giving doctors I've ever meet. He attends all support

groups (once weekly) and one exersice class a week when he is in

town. All visits to him for life are at no charge (as long as they

have to do with the surgery) which includes treating my severe anemia

and this ulcer. The H-pylori was 2.97 and normal is 0.90 so yeah it

is positive. The worst part is is that he made (makes) your stomach

very small. The first two years I did good to eat two tablespoons of

food now I can eat about 1/4 to 1/2 cup over a 30 -45 min time

period. Since my stomach is soooo small the H-pylori is not only

burrying itself in my " stomach " but also up my esophogus. My throat

is soooo raw I can hardly talk and anything I eat is sooo painful.

Having this nice small stomach is nice. I lost 127 lbs in six

months!!! However, I can not take the 24 antibiotics and

> other meds for 3 weeks as it makes me sooo sick. (I have to do

the triple cocktail instead of the double since I am allergic to

Penicillin). The nexium has yet to help, but I've only been taking

it a week so I'll give that time. I did find out a lot about

Mastic. I purchased the capsules, chewing gum, toothpaste and

mouthwash. It is suppose to kill h-pylori and using the gum,

toothpaste and mouthwash will kill it in your mouth. It is sooo

gross to know that this bacteria lives in our mouths and is passsed

on to others. I read 95% of the population have it but it only makes

about 25% really sick. How lucky for me!!!!! (and you). I've had a

lot of surgery that was painful (the gastic bypass was easy!!!)

liposuction the most painful thing I've ever done (full body lipo, 6

liters of fat sucked out) I could not move for 2 1/2 weeks and that

seems painless compared to this ulcer. I'm on a liquid diet,except

for jello and pudding....sugar free of course...yippy! At first they

> thought it was gallstones but the ultrasound was negative so I had

the H-pylori test and endoscopy done to comfirm the diagnosis. My

doc says the ulcers completley cover the " stomach " and I have several

smaller ones in the esophogus. I just turn 41 in July and feel like

I'm 60. I thought once the implants came out I'd feel better now I'm

spending a small fortune on supplements and feel worse! I've been

taking the primal defense and acid dophilus for almost a year so I'm

kinda confused as to how this stuff grows in a healthy environment.

I thought about doing the infared sauna to see if that would help as

well....I'm glad to see you're taking 40 soooo well. I cried!!!!!

but then again I cried at 20 and 30 too. something about that " 0 " at

the end gets me. I cant wait to get back to feeling good again and

wanting to go out and do stuff. All I want to do now is sleep. I'm

wasting my summer not to mention my life being sick. I know the

antibiotic will clear this up faster and

> normally i'm all for that, but throwing up the first three days

and feeling nauseaus all day doesnt work for me. Thanks for your

support and I hope you continue to do well.

> Vickie

>

> naturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@y...> wrote:

> I was sitting here just going through the posts not really ready to

> respond to any yet, and then saw yours and thought OH MY I NEVER

NEW

> you had a gastric. Was it an open gastric or lap gastric? My

friends

> at work (several) have all recently had lap gastrics and are doing

> well. Now a days they test you for H-Pylori and all that stuff

ahead

> of time and then they will often times when in there remove allot

of

> peoples gall bladders too. I don't always agree with this but I

know

> some people really do better without thiers. Esp some overweight

> persons who have eaten allot of fatty foods all their lives. I had

h

> pylori and was sick as hell, so I know what that is like. I am not

> clear from your post if you indeed do have it but it sounded like

Yes

> correct? If so dear, that will indeed cause all the problems you

are

> having. I was on my way to an ulcer and had no idea really till

they

> found the H pylori, my believe is you will get better with the help

> of the nexium. I went on the antibiotic treatment for this and

> withing about 3 months I was hurting all the time, I was starting

to

> be convinced it was my gall bladder, working on a surgical floor

> where everyone is getting theirs out everyday of course did not

help

> me either hee hee. So anyhow my mind went out there and I was

> terrified and I did the flush and nothing happened so I broke down

> and had that ultrasound and they said my gall bladder had no stones

> but it did have some sludge in it. I talked to my FAVORITE SURGEON

> and he felt the sludge was meaningless and could have just been

> undigested food. He said he would not remove my gall bladder (

THANK

> GOD) and gave me a few packets of nexium or protonix one of those

> proton pump meds, and within days, literally days I was cured. the

> pain gone, never did return. Took awhile after the whole treatment

> for H pylori to feel good again but I did. with your tiny little

> tummy and if your being a good gastric bypass patient(sounds like

you

> are) then you should be ok, just keep eating your small portions,

> take your antibiotic therapy and the nexium. My advice would be

> continue the nexium for a few weeks to months or what your Dr says

> after wards and you should be ok. It took awhile and I did not have

> the tiny tummy pouch to deal with.

> I know the older bypasses they left a bigger pouch then they are

> doing now with these lap gastrics. So I am curious if you had the

> open with the big scar and all, that is a BIG surgery, but worth

it,

> it helps so many people. I am amazed at how tiny my two friends at

> work are. We have a wonderful program called new u, and the people

> get support, go to classes, get weighed in, etc, it is really

really

> nice for them.

> Anyhow thanks for the compliment about my long posts, as some make

> fun of them, though I do not believe anyone is serious, I hope not

> hee hee. I dont' get on here all the time so when I do, i certainly

> have something to say and say it. I try not to get into all the

> arguing that I used to but I also won't not share my opinion even

if

> I know it is possibly opening a can of worms ya know.

> Anyhow that is cool, I mean I think I am a caring person that has

> been through allot but I by no means am going to just throw the

> medical community by the wayside becasue they have been good to me

at

> times, even when they also were very bad to me.

> Lately I keep having some issues with my hands. Arthritis runs in

my

> family and one day I feel great and the next my hands hurt esp in

the

> am's so bad I don't want to get up or work out or anything, so that

> has really been driving me nuts. I went to my pain clinic Dr and

they

> had a new Dr and he was a doll. He held my hand and comforted me

and

> told me that it could be arthritis but he is hoping it isn't I mean

> he did not offer up any real cure or much of anything other than

some

> ideas of med and other things to do. He brought up thick blood

which

> I do not have but it interested me that a regular med Dr would

> comment about thick blood as we all have suspected implants cause

> this issue. I just decided I know how I bleed and if anything I do

> not have thick but rather thin blood, however I am going to add

some

> things like garlic to my diet to see if that will help me out with

> the blood in case it is thick. we will see. I certainly cannot

afford

> to go to a naturopath and live the life style we do when I have

great

> medical insurance so it has always been my choice to do what I can

> through the medical system here in Idaho which, to be frank,

compared

> to CA the people here seem to care a bit more, someting that I

think

> is probably about less people, smaller population, that type of

> thing. Less like cattle herding through the office.

> At any rate I just turned the big 40 yesterday so maybe I am going

to

> get arthritis at such a young age, my dad has had it for years, and

I

> am sure the implants did not help me, but frankly for how many

years

> will I be able to blame implants on my health issues. I don't even

> know. I suppose I could do it my whole life, but will it really

make

> a difference now to blame the dam things they have been gone for 4

> years almost and I have not had this kind of finger joint pain

ever.

> I had pain, but this is totally different. I have arthritis in my

> knee from an injury in HS and it is more like that.

> Is it something I can cure through detox, maybe that would be nice.

> Meanwhile I already know that if I get up, work out and take a hot

> shower it always feels better, so that is a simple enough way to

deal

> with it now.

> Anyhow here I am again going on and on, hee hee.

> Vickie would love to hear more about your gastric and all you must

> have been through. Your a good reason to warn my two friends at

work

> who are already complaining about their boobs being gone not to get

> implants.

> One of them has lost 80 pounds and is 10 pounds from her goal and

the

> other is 30 pounds from her goal and has lost 90 pounds, so she had

> more to lost, they look fab. Lots of jealousy going on, but I am

just

> happy for them, I lost 60 pounds the old fashioned way and while it

> took longer and was allot of hard work, I still think it was better

> than undergoing surgery so I feel for these ladies.

> I am proud to know you and hope you stick around. I think with ANY

> support group where you have basically the same girls always

talking,

> there are going to be more arguments and debates than on a site

where

> the members are constantly changing. Also remember to try to look

at

> it how I do, sometimes i think it is just because we have been

> through so much we tend to vent it out a bit more than some other

> groups. We have been through alot. I know that no matter what goes

> on, this is my home, and I pray allot lately to help me be a better

> person. I hope it shows in some small way.

> hugs

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> In , Vickie <gracie17db@y...>

> wrote:

> > Thank you , I too enjoy the inspirational stories, I just

cant

> deal with the stress of the negative post. I try to live by the

rule

> if you dont like it dont read it or turn it off....sometimes it's

> just too much here, lingering for days!!!!! You're looking for

> support and help and there is a big cat fight going on. I have not

> been well, at all. At first my doctor thought I had gallstones but

> the ultrasound came up negative. He is such a wonder physician. I

> told him about the gallbladder liver flush and he said try it it

> certainly can not hurt. It also didnt help. I still had terrible

> pain and then I started getting heartburn constant...no relief at

all

> day or night. so they've put me on Nexium and did an H-pylori test

> was was 2.97...normal or negative is 0.90....so now I am on a

strict

> diet of liquids and soft bland food, nexium and today I'll start

> anitbiotics. My worst fear is a stomach ulcer as I had gastric

> bypass 6 years ago and an ulcer can be cause for reversal

> > of the bypass. I gave up breast implants, I wont give up my

small

> stomach. I know I need to do the aggressive treatment he has me on

> to clear this up, it is not some thing i want to play around with,

> but any ideas on other treatment in combination would be greatly

> appreciated. I am taking primal defense and i also take a flora

> combo to replace good bacteria. This is one reason i am so

confused

> as to how i got this. Again thank you for your kind words and

> support.

> > Vickie

> >

> > JOSEPH PALANCA <juliejp61@m...> wrote:

> >

> > Vickie, I know, and I have often thought of leaving, but how

could

> I? I love sharing and gathering all the wellness tips and detoxing

> programs from all the gals here. Hearing about Patty's recovery

> through inovative programs,being there for new explantee's like

Beth

> for instance; and her questions at such a vital time.'s

family

> stories and work out regimins. LM's eperiences and support. Heck,

> Diamonds getting well, Daryl's much needed help right now and

updates

> on little Quinn, Lynda's great advise, and everyone else! I could

go

> on and on....

> >

> > I just think that once you have argued a topic for so long, to

let

> it go. It doesnt have to be proved, or otherwise. To be constantly

> argued. It is your opinion, it has been stated several times and

why

> go on and on about it. There are women here that are very ill, and

> these posts may very confusing and burdening to them to read. Who

> are desperatly looking for answers and need help. They may be so

> overwhelmed, as I once once-they turn the computer off. I am not

> saying it is " up to me " to decide when the debate is old. I only

> emailed a short response to perhaps hint around to a close on it.

As

> the posts were getting repetative, and realy leering on a negative

> tone. Trying to stop a arguement , before it happened- I guess.

Next

> time, I won't

> >

> > Anyway, please stay. There is so much support here, look past the

> small amounts of the " same old issues " and see that the love and

help

> is here. How have you been doing lately? Anything new you are

taking

> or doing? And what has improved since explant? Fill me in Love

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >From: Vickie <gracie17db@y...> >Reply-To:

> >

> >Subject: Re: Re: C A R R I E >Date: Fri, 30 Jul

2004

> 08:37:57 -0700 (PDT) > >: I have to agree with you. I have

been

> searching elsewhere for support, but this seems like the best group

> for nutritional and " medical " advise. I've learned a lot from this

> group. Having said that, each time I log on it seems there is an

> agurment of some kind and no one knows when to stop. It is soooo

> dishearting!!!! I have had some health issues that I needed and

> wanted advise for from this group, but havent posted due to the

> constant bickering. None of us are perfect and do come across hard

at

> times, but if some post were not so " short and blunt " they may not

be

> taken as being offensive. (unlike s long and informative

posts.

> I truly enjoy those !!!) >I really thought I was on the right

> track by joining the group and wanted so much to be a part of it. It

> > takes me a while to open up but once I feel comfortable with

> people I can do so. Now it seems like I'll only be taking what I

need

> from this group and finding support else. Believe it or not that

> saddens me. >Vickie > >JOSEPH PALANCA <juliejp61@m...> wrote: >Why

> get angry? Why set the torch here for all places? This is a support

> group > Re: Re: C A R R I E > > >Hey ! >I

> like the fire in you--calm can be boring! Just so long as we step

> back and think calmly when we're angry--that's a good thing, but in

> all other regards--SET THE TORCH! You go girl--fiery Leo lioness.

>LM

> > >naturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@y...> wrote: >LM your too cute!

I

> am tring to be a calmer life of the party, but >ya know how us

Leo's

> are, I am just a big attention getter, I go >crazy without

attention,

> so he zodiac writters tell me hee hee. >Anyhow

> > I missed you too, we will have to catch up soon on things ok?

> >Love ya > > > > > > > > >In ,

> Jane Doe >wrote: > > Hi : I'm glad you're back, it's not the

> same without you. >Much of the time, you're the life of the party.

>

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