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Hi Rogene,

Thank you for replying to my ? on lab work. This is all so

frightening to me, and all of you have really been a great source of

support. By the way, did you have explant surgery, and if so, who

did it?

I am sorry to hear that your Mom has breast cancer. I know it is

different when you're diagnosed at 91, but still it is a difficult

thing. I am so glad she has a good perspective about it all and has

a strong faith! I will be in prayer for her surgery Tues and also

for you and the rest of your family. Please let me know how it all

goes. I have lots of info. (obviously) about breast cancer recovery

diet, supplements to take, etc. etc. Let me know if you need these

references. Is she having lymph nodes removed too? If she does not

want to do Chemo no matter the prognosis, tell her to limit the

number of lymph nodes removed (ie. " Sentinal Node " only) to lower

risk of lymphedema in her arm. She doesn't need that complication

at her age! Take care & may God give you His peace!

Sharon

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Lorie--I rarely post on the site as I rarely have anything to say--but I am totally praying for you and cannot believe how a bunch or money-grubbing, self-righteous judgemental idiots can continue to do this to us. I will be anxiously awaiting the outcome of your situation and will remember you in my prayers daily. I have 9 months left on probation and am scared of another positive every time I test. Your fight has been going on so long and you'e gone to every length possible. You are truly an inspiration to all of us. Hang in there!!!!

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Lorie - I am simply in disbelief. You are most certainly in my prayers. Hang in there. MarkLorie Garlick <lorieglanset> wrote:

After 4 weeks back to work after the last set of positive EtGs, I got the dreaded phone call again last Thursday afternoon -- another positive, this time the level was 1,100! My CM sounds adament: STOP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND GET THEM TO STOP! She talked to my WSM, who was totally supportive. I reminded her that I now take 500mg a day of observed Antabuse. The only weird comment I remember her saying is that I wasn't very defensive. All I can say is that after getting this call a few times, one ceases to become defensive and is simply numb with disbelief. She was off work on Friday and said she would have the Board's reaction tomorrow. Past experience tells me It won't be good -- work suspension and, God forbid, TREATMENT!

So I've spent the weekend feeling like shit, trying to figure out just what to do. My friends continue to say "Hang in there, everything will be OK". I know they mean well. The string of faith I'm clinging too is oh-so thin! The truth is, I've been dealing with this for so long now and I need to accept the fact that I cannot make these positives stop. I've gone to all lengths. I've been back in Diversion 4 1/2 months, have had 3 positives now, and am facing a second work suspension. Doesn't that make me unemployable? How much more punishment must I face before I accept the facts here and quit this nonsense? I really love my profession, I love my job, and I love the income and lifestyle it affords me. It is so wrong that I should have to give up a 21-year career because of this test, or move to another state to live and work to "escape" EtG testing.

Well thanks for listening to my sad story. And please say a prayer for me...I need a miracle right now!

Lorie

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Lorie...........sigh..........I understand not reacting to the news,

that was how I felt too.........I will say prayers for you and I

will also say, DO NOT GIVE IT UP, I do recall being at that point

too and just wanting to say @#$5 this, but do not let them win by

giving you life up.........you have done everything

possible.....keep whatever little faith that you have and hang on to

it for now..........joy

>

> After 4 weeks back to work after the last set of positive EtGs, I

got the dreaded phone call again last Thursday afternoon -- another

positive, this time the level was 1,100! My CM sounds adament: STOP

DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND GET THEM TO STOP! She talked to my WSM,

who was totally supportive. I reminded her that I now take 500mg a

day of observed Antabuse. The only weird comment I remember her

saying is that I wasn't very defensive. All I can say is that after

getting this call a few times, one ceases to become defensive and is

simply numb with disbelief. She was off work on Friday and said she

would have the Board's reaction tomorrow. Past experience tells me

It won't be good -- work suspension and, God forbid, TREATMENT!

>

> So I've spent the weekend feeling like shit, trying to figure out

just what to do. My friends continue to say " Hang in there,

everything will be OK " . I know they mean well. The string of faith

I'm clinging too is oh-so thin! The truth is, I've been dealing with

this for so long now and I need to accept the fact that I cannot

make these positives stop. I've gone to all lengths. I've been back

in Diversion 4 1/2 months, have had 3 positives now, and am facing a

second work suspension. Doesn't that make me unemployable? How much

more punishment must I face before I accept the facts here and quit

this nonsense? I really love my profession, I love my job, and I

love the income and lifestyle it affords me. It is so wrong that I

should have to give up a 21-year career because of this test, or

move to another state to live and work to " escape " EtG testing.

>

> Well thanks for listening to my sad story. And please say a prayer

for me...I need a miracle right now!

> Lorie

>

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Hey Lorie,

Oh my gawssh, my heart goes out to you. And it drops a bit and raises my fear level just a tad (I am an addict-selfish, self centered) I don't even know what to say. What about testing the %CDT on your own? At this point I would also gather letters of support from your sponsor, group leader, friends in program, etc. I don't know if it would do much, but it is a little bit of action.

I too remember when I was getting the calls about the positives. After the second one, I was just numb. Basically I was like whatever, what do you want me to do? I didn't vent on my case manager, I vented outside. But I do remember that feeling of just being beaten when I was down.

My light and love goes out to you. Please e mail me off list so we could chat more.

Bonnie

From: Ethylglucuronide [mailto:Ethylglucuronide ] On Behalf Of joyous1_1210Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 4:32 AMEthylglucuronide Subject: Re: Say a prayer...

Lorie...........sigh..........I understand not reacting to the news, that was how I felt too.........I will say prayers for you and I will also say, DO NOT GIVE IT UP, I do recall being at that point too and just wanting to say @#$5 this, but do not let them win by giving you life up.........you have done everything possible.....keep whatever little faith that you have and hang on to it for now..........joy>> After 4 weeks back to work after the last set of positive EtGs, I got the dreaded phone call again last Thursday afternoon -- another positive, this time the level was 1,100! My CM sounds adament: STOP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND GET THEM TO STOP! She talked to my WSM, who was totally supportive. I reminded her that I now take 500mg a day of observed Antabuse. The only weird comment I remember her saying is that I wasn't very defensive. All I can say is that after getting this call a few times, one ceases to become defensive and is simply numb with disbelief. She was off work on Friday and said she would have the Board's reaction tomorrow. Past experience tells me It won't be good -- work suspension and, God forbid, TREATMENT! > > So I've spent the weekend feeling like shit, trying to figure out just what to do. My friends continue to say "Hang in there, everything will be OK". I know they mean well. The string of faith I'm clinging too is oh-so thin! The truth is, I've been dealing with this for so long now and I need to accept the fact that I cannot make these positives stop. I've gone to all lengths. I've been back in Diversion 4 1/2 months, have had 3 positives now, and am facing a second work suspension. Doesn't that make me unemployable? How much more punishment must I face before I accept the facts here and quit this nonsense? I really love my profession, I love my job, and I love the income and lifestyle it affords me. It is so wrong that I should have to give up a 21-year career because of this test, or move to another state to live and work to "escape" EtG testing.> > Well thanks for listening to my sad story. And please say a prayer for me...I need a miracle right now!> Lorie>

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Oh my god, Lorie! I can't believe it. I just can't believe it. I am saying a prayer for you now and daily. Stop doing what you are doing? Stop breathing? Metabolizing? Good god they are insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eva>> After 4 weeks back to work after the last set of positive EtGs, I got the dreaded phone call again last Thursday afternoon -- another positive, this time the level was 1,100! My CM sounds adament: STOP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND GET THEM TO STOP! She talked to my WSM, who was totally supportive. I reminded her that I now take 500mg a day of observed Antabuse. The only weird comment I remember her saying is that I wasn't very defensive. All I can say is that after getting this call a few times, one ceases to become defensive and is simply numb with disbelief. She was off work on Friday and said she would have the Board's reaction tomorrow. Past experience tells me It won't be good -- work suspension and, God forbid, TREATMENT! > > So I've spent the weekend feeling like shit, trying to figure out just what to do. My friends continue to say "Hang in there, everything will be OK". I know they mean well. The string of faith I'm clinging too is oh-so thin! The truth is, I've been dealing with this for so long now and I need to accept the fact that I cannot make these positives stop. I've gone to all lengths. I've been back in Diversion 4 1/2 months, have had 3 positives now, and am facing a second work suspension. Doesn't that make me unemployable? How much more punishment must I face before I accept the facts here and quit this nonsense? I really love my profession, I love my job, and I love the income and lifestyle it affords me. It is so wrong that I should have to give up a 21-year career because of this test, or move to another state to live and work to "escape" EtG testing.> > Well thanks for listening to my sad story. And please say a prayer for me...I need a miracle right now!> Lorie>

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Out of curiosity, what is the half-life of EtG?MarkLorie Garlick <lorieg@...> wrote: Good theory, Dr. Dan, but because of EtG's long half-life, I think you'd have to dose it differently than this. I know some women take Bactrim DS one tablet daily to prevent UTI. Any idea how one could suppress fungal growth? Diflucan 100mg once or twice a week? Lorie Re: Say a prayer... LORIE IM SO SORRY! MY FEELINGS ARE JUST THE SAME AS YOURS. I FEEL AS THOUGH I AM LOSING MY MIND. I SPEND SO MUCH TIME TRING

TO FIGURE THIS ETG THING OUT. AND ITS FRUSTRATING KNOWING THAT THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO TO FIX IT. ITS VERY HARD FOR ME TO TAKE ADVICE FROM PEOPLE WHO DONT STRUGGLE WITH THE ETG. IS IT FOR YOU? I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND HOW COME SOME STRUGGLE WITH ETG AND SOME DONT. EVERYTIME I GO TO NURSE TO NURSE I LISTEN TO PEOPLE SHARE. I JUST SIT BACK AND WISH I HAD THE SERENITY THEY HAD. IT ALL JUST PISSES ME OFF. I JUST WOUNDER WHAT MY SOBRITY WOULD BE LIKE WITH OUT THE ETG. BUT I GUESS THE WHAT IF IS NONE OF MY BUISNESS. HANG IN THERE. AND JUST THINK YOU NEVER KNOW IF THERE IS SOMETHIG BETTER WAITING FOR US OUT THERE. WE MIGHT EVEN FIND SOMETHING WE LOVE. WE JUST THINK THAT NURSING IS ALL OF WHO WE ARE. AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR SO LONG THAT WE DONT KNOW ANY DIFFRENT. THIS IS WHAT KEEPS ME MOVING ON. HANG IN THERELorie Garlick <lorieglanset> wrote: After 4 weeks back to work after the last set of positive EtGs, I got the dreaded phone call again last Thursday afternoon -- another positive, this time

the level was 1,100! My CM sounds adament: STOP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND GET THEM TO STOP! She talked to my WSM, who was totally supportive. I reminded her that I now take 500mg a day of observed Antabuse. The only weird comment I remember her saying is that I wasn't very defensive. All I can say is that after getting this call a few times, one ceases to become defensive and is simply numb with disbelief. She was off work on Friday and said she would have the Board's reaction tomorrow. Past experience tells me It won't be good -- work suspension and, God forbid, TREATMENT! So I've spent the weekend feeling like shit, trying to figure out just what to do. My friends continue to say "Hang in there, everything will be OK". I know they mean well. The string of faith I'm clinging too is oh-so thin! The truth is, I've been dealing with this for so long now and I need to accept the fact that I cannot make these positives stop. I've gone to all lengths. I've been back in Diversion 4 1/2 months, have had 3 positives now, and am facing a second work suspension. Doesn't that make me unemployable? How much more punishment must I face before I accept the facts here and quit this nonsense? I really love my profession, I love my job, and I love the income and lifestyle it affords me. It is so wrong that I should have to give up a 21-year career because of this test, or move to another state to live and work to "escape" EtG testing. Well thanks for listening to my sad story. And please say a prayer for me...I need a miracle right now! Lorie Finding fabulous fares is fun.Let FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

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Dan---Sorry to hear you are having some health challenges. Thank God you are done with monitoring!!! Being in it surely doesn't make for the best of health. Prayers, Marshadanramo@... wrote: The way to defeat etg is with science and that is the only way. One method to determine if microbes are causing this in the bladder is to take diflucan 100 mg and cipro 250 mg on the day of testing to avoid asymtomatic bacturia. This should not violate anyones agreement as long

as its under a doctors care and reported to the diversion provider. ETG will be defeated. I have recently graduated from my monitoring program so I can start doing tests on myself. I have had some health difficulties. I just hope I am alive to see this nightmare resolved. Re: Say a prayer... Wow, Amy, I share all of those feelings with you! You stated it very well. Lorie Re: Say a prayer... LORIE IM SO SORRY! MY FEELINGS ARE JUST THE SAME AS YOURS. I FEEL AS THOUGH I AM LOSING MY MIND. I SPEND SO MUCH TIME TRING TO FIGURE THIS ETG THING OUT. AND ITS FRUSTRATING KNOWING THAT THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO TO FIX IT. ITS VERY HARD FOR ME TO TAKE ADVICE FROM PEOPLE WHO DONT STRUGGLE WITH

THE ETG. IS IT FOR YOU? I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND HOW COME SOME STRUGGLE WITH ETG AND SOME DONT. EVERYTIME I GO TO NURSE TO NURSE I LISTEN TO PEOPLE SHARE. I JUST SIT BACK AND WISH I HAD THE SERENITY THEY HAD. IT ALL JUST PISSES ME OFF. I JUST WOUNDER WHAT MY SOBRITY WOULD BE LIKE WITH OUT THE ETG. BUT I GUESS THE WHAT IF IS NONE OF MY BUISNESS. HANG IN THERE. AND JUST THINK YOU NEVER KNOW IF THERE IS SOMETHIG BETTER WAITING FOR US OUT THERE. WE MIGHT EVEN FIND SOMETHING WE LOVE. WE JUST THINK THAT NURSING IS ALL OF WHO WE ARE. AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR SO LONG THAT WE DONT KNOW

ANY DIFFRENT. THIS IS WHAT KEEPS ME MOVING ON. HANG IN THERELorie Garlick <lorieglanset> wrote: After 4 weeks back to work after the last set of positive EtGs, I got the dreaded phone call again last Thursday afternoon -- another positive, this time the level was 1,100! My CM sounds adament: STOP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND GET THEM TO STOP! She talked to my WSM, who was totally supportive. I reminded her that I now take 500mg a day of observed Antabuse. The only weird comment I remember her saying is that I wasn't very defensive. All I can

say is that after getting this call a few times, one ceases to become defensive and is simply numb with disbelief. She was off work on Friday and said she would have the Board's reaction tomorrow. Past experience tells me It won't be good -- work suspension and, God forbid, TREATMENT! So I've spent the weekend feeling like shit, trying to figure out just what to do. My friends continue to say "Hang in there, everything will be OK". I know they mean well. The string of faith I'm clinging too is oh-so thin! The truth is, I've been dealing with this for so long now and I need to accept the fact that I cannot make these positives stop. I've gone to all lengths. I've been back in Diversion 4 1/2 months, have had 3 positives now, and am facing a second work suspension.

Doesn't that make me unemployable? How much more punishment must I face before I accept the facts here and quit this nonsense? I really love my profession, I love my job, and I love the income and lifestyle it affords me. It is so wrong that I should have to give up a 21-year career because of this test, or move to another state to live and work to "escape" EtG testing. Well thanks for listening to my sad story. And please say a prayer for me...I need a miracle right now! Lorie Finding fabulous fares is fun.Let FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

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