Re: OT - terrier like attitude

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, that is a wonderful story and thanks for sharing. As a lawyer, I

can vividly imagine that scene playing out. Its hillarious. Great job and I

love your enthusiasm. Happy holidays.

Ben Pugh

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,

Just read your post about the court ticket and situation, and I am

HOWLING!! You are AWESOME!

Thanks for making my morning.

Deb

>

> Gosh Ted, I think that was a compliment. My " terrier like attitude " .

> The problem with most people is they take flack from people, and

complain

> about it, but not to the person who can do anything about it. Me, I

> complain to everyone, and keep going up the chain of command until I get

> the answer I need.

>

> One time I got a ticket for having tires on my tree lawn for the garbage

> collectors to pick up. Not knowing that tires are one they they NEVER

> pick up. Well they didn't take them the first week, so I left them

> there, thinking they ran out of space (lol), and when they didn't take

> them the 2nd week, I got a ticket. $65. So I go down to the court

house

> and tell them I have a hearing problem and am going to need some

" special

> accommodations " for the hearing about the $65 ticket " Special

> accommodations are guaranteed under the Americans With Disabilities Act

> (ADA) Most people will just pay the fine and complain to whoever will

> listen. I figure for $65 I'm going to have my day in court and get my

> money's worth. Because you pay court costs, too, whether you go or not.

>

> OK, I tell the clerk of courts that I'm going to need someone to

type out

> what is being said so I can read it, because 98% comprehension is NOT

> enough in a court of law. He tells me, " we don't do that " At this

point

> most DEAF people would say, " Oh, I'm sorry, what was I thinking "

Not I.

> I said, " Are you telling me that in a court of law, you do not provide

> the accommodations dictated by the law of the land? " Clerk replies,

> " Let me check " . Then he comes back and says they'll hire a sign

language

> interpreter for me. I tell him I don't sign. Well how do I understand

> what he is saying. I tell him, " I'm reading your lips " . " OH, we'll

hire

> a sign language interpreter, who will repeat what is being said. Will

> that satisfy you? " Sure. The day before my court appearance, I get a

> phone call that the case has been dropped. Seems they found out that an

> interpreter gets something like $75/hr and you have to guarantee them 3

> hours of time, so the ticket was less than the accommodation, and they

> dropped the case. Of course if they had refused to accommodate me, I

> would have gone to court, been found guilty, and then turned around and

> sued they butts for violation of my civil rights. See, you have to KNOW

> your rights and DEMAND them. I'm not a woman to be trifled with.

>

> Moral of this long winded story is KNOW your right, REQUEST them, and if

> they are denied, see a lawyer. Happy Holidays.

>

>

>

> PS I AM great fun to be with. Ask anyone. Alice, Mischelle, anyone on

> the list!!

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[Guest guest]

Haha, it WAS meant as a compliment, . I was going to say

feistyness, because I thought that described you. But then when I

looked up feisty, I didnt like the look of the dictionary definitions.

I meant someone who will fight for something if they know they are

right and wont let go. Terrier-like was the best I could think of at

the time. No offence meant.

About your court story. Common sense doesnt always prevail. Its a

wonder the idiots didnt pursue the case anyway, since the ticket had

been written :-).

Ted F.

>

> Gosh Ted, I think that was a compliment. My " terrier like attitude " .

> The problem with most people is they take flack from people, and

complain

> about it, but not to the person who can do anything about it. Me, I

> complain to everyone, and keep going up the chain of command until I get

> the answer I need.

>

> One time I got a ticket for having tires on my tree lawn for the garbage

> collectors to pick up. Not knowing that tires are one they they NEVER

> pick up. Well they didn't take them the first week, so I left them

> there, thinking they ran out of space (lol), and when they didn't take

> them the 2nd week, I got a ticket. $65. So I go down to the court

house

> and tell them I have a hearing problem and am going to need some

" special

> accommodations " for the hearing about the $65 ticket " Special

> accommodations are guaranteed under the Americans With Disabilities Act

> (ADA) Most people will just pay the fine and complain to whoever will

> listen. I figure for $65 I'm going to have my day in court and get my

> money's worth. Because you pay court costs, too, whether you go or not.

>

> OK, I tell the clerk of courts that I'm going to need someone to

type out

> what is being said so I can read it, because 98% comprehension is NOT

> enough in a court of law. He tells me, " we don't do that " At this

point

> most DEAF people would say, " Oh, I'm sorry, what was I thinking "

Not I.

> I said, " Are you telling me that in a court of law, you do not provide

> the accommodations dictated by the law of the land? " Clerk replies,

> " Let me check " . Then he comes back and says they'll hire a sign

language

> interpreter for me. I tell him I don't sign. Well how do I understand

> what he is saying. I tell him, " I'm reading your lips " . " OH, we'll

hire

> a sign language interpreter, who will repeat what is being said. Will

> that satisfy you? " Sure. The day before my court appearance, I get a

> phone call that the case has been dropped. Seems they found out that an

> interpreter gets something like $75/hr and you have to guarantee them 3

> hours of time, so the ticket was less than the accommodation, and they

> dropped the case. Of course if they had refused to accommodate me, I

> would have gone to court, been found guilty, and then turned around and

> sued they butts for violation of my civil rights. See, you have to KNOW

> your rights and DEMAND them. I'm not a woman to be trifled with.

>

> Moral of this long winded story is KNOW your right, REQUEST them, and if

> they are denied, see a lawyer. Happy Holidays.

>

>

>

> PS I AM great fun to be with. Ask anyone. Alice, Mischelle, anyone on

> the list!!

> ____________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

Hi Deb, Ben & Ted F,

Thanks for your compliments on the court story. It pays to know your

rights and ask for them. People will try to get out of doing the right

thing, and it never hurts to know what you are entitled to.

Had a cop ask me if I spent a lot of time in court. This was when the

City was issuing a second ticket for vending in an unauthorized area.

They allow ticket scalpers, beggars, and street musicians in this area,

and I, who pays $65 for a Peddler's permit and $120 for a Zone license,

keep getting $187 tickets for trying to sell Browns merchandise in this

area. My name is not on the zone permit, or believe me, they'd be

tossing that out when I rquested special accommodations. We're going to

ask to be grandfathered in since we've been in this location for 5 years

now, and should have some " squatters rights "

Anyway, I told the police officer that I don't spend much time in

court at all, and if you know your rights, you don't HAVE to spend much

time in court. Cost the court more than the fine, and they'll drop the

charges. Simple economics. Meanwhile, I was tying up 5 other cops who

were telling people this stand was closed and they couldn't buy anything.

And I'm yelling, " Remember THIS the next time the city wants a levy " .

My tying up the cops, keeping others from buying from me, allowed my

friends in the same area to pack up and leave Dodge. So only my partner

and I got the ticket. One police officer told me I'd better " get a move

on " or he'd pack my stuff for me. I informed he I was disabled, and he'd

better watch his mouth, or I'd report him to his supervisor (who happened

to be there anyway). LOL.

One time all of us in the area got tickets, so I asked if we could

qualify for Group Rates.

If you want a thankless task, try selling stuff before a Cleveland

Browns game, playing the way they have been this year. When they are

looking for a new head coach they can honestly advertise that you'll stay

dry, because they only dump the ice water on the winning coach!!

Happy Holidays.

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[Guest guest]

, YOU are a riot! I love people that can make me laugh, and

YOU have been cracking me up with your stories! I love them!

>

> Hi Deb, Ben & Ted F,

> Thanks for your compliments on the court story. It pays to know

your

> rights and ask for them. People will try to get out of doing the

right

> thing, and it never hurts to know what you are entitled to.

> Had a cop ask me if I spent a lot of time in court. This was

when the

> City was issuing a second ticket for vending in an unauthorized

area.

> They allow ticket scalpers, beggars, and street musicians in this

area,

> and I, who pays $65 for a Peddler's permit and $120 for a Zone

license,

> keep getting $187 tickets for trying to sell Browns merchandise in

this

> area. My name is not on the zone permit, or believe me, they'd be

> tossing that out when I rquested special accommodations. We're

going to

> ask to be grandfathered in since we've been in this location for 5

years

> now, and should have some " squatters rights "

> Anyway, I told the police officer that I don't spend much time in

> court at all, and if you know your rights, you don't HAVE to spend

much

> time in court. Cost the court more than the fine, and they'll drop

the

> charges. Simple economics. Meanwhile, I was tying up 5 other

cops who

> were telling people this stand was closed and they couldn't buy

anything.

> And I'm yelling, " Remember THIS the next time the city wants a

levy " .

> My tying up the cops, keeping others from buying from me, allowed my

> friends in the same area to pack up and leave Dodge. So only my

partner

> and I got the ticket. One police officer told me I'd better " get a

move

> on " or he'd pack my stuff for me. I informed he I was disabled,

and he'd

> better watch his mouth, or I'd report him to his supervisor (who

happened

> to be there anyway). LOL.

> One time all of us in the area got tickets, so I asked if we

could

> qualify for Group Rates.

> If you want a thankless task, try selling stuff before a

Cleveland

> Browns game, playing the way they have been this year. When they

are

> looking for a new head coach they can honestly advertise that

you'll stay

> dry, because they only dump the ice water on the winning coach!!

> Happy Holidays.

>

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[Guest guest]

Another great story, ! That is wonderful and I love your spirit.

Sadly, you are right, the Browns are having a terrible year. When I was a

child, I heard Bill Glass speak at my church and have followed the Browns ever

since. Time for Romeo to find another t. Cowher to Cleveland?

Have a good Wednesday, all

Ben Pugh

Birmingham AL

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Thanks, ,

Does you no use to get mad about things you cannot change at the time,

but never hurts to put people on notice that things ARE going to change,

and that you are going to be the instrument of that change. I'm on a

first name basis with the Police Captain in the area, and the city

councilman whose ward it is in, plus my own councilman. See if we can

write some new laws before next year. YOu don't like what you see, do

one of 2 things, change it or change your attitude about it. I intend to

change the law. But in a nice way. I keep thinking I should just tell

people, " Be reasonable, do it my way " .

Thanks for the compliment. Everyone tells me I should write a book.

But who would believe it?

, YOU are a riot! I love people that can make me laugh, and

YOU have been cracking me up with your stories! I love them!

Hi Deb, Ben & Ted F,

Thanks for your compliments on the court story. It pays to know

your rights and ask for them. People will try to get out of doing the

right thing, and it never hurts to know what you are entitled to.

Had a cop ask me if I spent a lot of time in court. This was

when the City was issuing a second ticket for vending in an unauthorized

area.

They allow ticket scalpers, beggars, and street musicians in this

area, and I, who pays $65 for a Peddler's permit and $120 for a Zone

license, keep getting $187 tickets for trying to sell Browns merchandise

in

this area. My name is not on the zone permit, or believe me, they'd be

tossing that out when I rquested special accommodations. We're

going to ask to be grandfathered in since we've been in this location for

5

years now, and should have some " squatters rights "

Anyway, I told the police officer that I don't spend much time in

court at all, and if you know your rights, you don't HAVE to spend

much time in court. Cost the court more than the fine, and they'll drop

the charges. Simple economics. Meanwhile, I was tying up 5 other

cops who were telling people this stand was closed and they couldn't buy

anything. And I'm yelling, " Remember THIS the next time the city wants a

levy " . My tying up the cops, keeping others from buying from me, allowed

my

friends in the same area to pack up and leave Dodge. So only my

partner and I got the ticket. One police officer told me I'd better " get

a

move on " or he'd pack my stuff for me. I informed he I was disabled,

and he'd better watch his mouth, or I'd report him to his supervisor (who

happened to be there anyway). LOL.

One time all of us in the area got tickets, so I asked if we

could qualify for Group Rates.

If you want a thankless task, try selling stuff before a

Cleveland Browns game, playing the way they have been this year. When

they

are looking for a new head coach they can honestly advertise that

you'll stay dry, because they only dump the ice water on the winning

coach!!

Happy Holidays.

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