Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Actually my notes possibly still have one of the practice doctor's opinion that I was mentally disturbed because I did keep going back and reporting I felt ill even though my TSH was 5.49 by then. She'd said I'd need to be over 5.5 before I would start to get symptoms, so everything was in my head The highest my TSH got to was 4.85 and I felt so ill and yes depressed I felt I might just drop dead. Miraculously the depression disappeared when I went on thyroid meds, weies that huh. Glad i haven't got your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Leah, I never went back to her which was not difficult as she is one of a number of doctors in the practice. Funny thing is she is OK in the gynae department and was actually very effective in resolving a problem I had with stitches in my bits after my 1st baby. On that occasion, I'd already seen my previous GP, a hospital doctor and 2 midwives but none of them had spotted the cause. This doctor instantly saw what was wrong and put an end to 8 weeks of excruciating pain instantly. Needless to say I was impressed. If I get gynae problems again, however, there is no way I'd go back to her after how she has treated me over the thyroid! I did try to change practices at one stage but got nowhere as all the alternatives in my area were already oversubscribed. It made a mockery of all that " choice " propaganda which was being promoted at the time. One of the practices even turned out to be an outreach clinic of my own practice, complete with the same doctors on a rota system! Tracey > > When you eventually do manage to get your results back from them, > perhaps you should change doctors! She sounds atrocious. Not only is > the suggestion that a 0.01 difference in TSH level could make all the > difference in a diagnosis ludicrous, but it does not allow any margin > of error for the test kit! To tell you it is all in your head and > bring up a traumatic event in your family is just disgraceful... > > If I hadn't experienced similar and seen other stories on here I would > be gobsmacked! > > Leah x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 PALS got back to me today. It seems there is no set rule which the health practices need apply to. They are free to make up their own policies regarding patient access to blood test results. This information doesn't help me but does show that there is absolutely nothing I can do about it really. The PALS lady will relay some of my concerns back to my practice manager. She herself used to work in my local practice so has first hand experience of the GPs. I told her about the extraordinary outburst of my current GP some months back, when I admitted showing my results to my sister, and how I was worried that as a result he may deliberately be obstructing my access to my results. I explained that I did not wish to make a formal complaint about that incident as it was totally out of character and, of all the doctors in the practice, he has been the only one willing to investigate my thyroid problems properly. She understood perfectly and confirmed that it indeed was very much out of character and that he is known for his conscientiousness in going the extra mile for his patients. She said that there is no way that he would be able to bar access to my results in the manner which appears to have happened and suggested it was simply bureaucracy. Whether the practice manager will accept my argument, reinforced by PALS, that having to get a medical appointment to view blood test results in my case is a waste of valuable GP time, is another matter. I explained that having to go through so many channels to achieve the end is inefficient and exhausting. Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Hi, It just seems unbelievable that you are having so much trouble getting results about YOUR blood tests, I found this link by accident on thyroid uk, I wonder if it would be of any help to you? Comprehensive guidance on the Freedom of Information Act can be found at www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk Good luck, hope things work out for you without too much more stress, x > PALS got back to me today. It seems there is no set rule which the > health practices need apply to. They are free to make up their own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Hi , I did bring up the Freedom of Information Act in my discussions with both the Practice Manager and PALS but both said it was being adhered to. Fullstop. No further debate possible. I have to admit I have immense difficulty comprehending the language used in legislation and need it translated and paraphrased before I am able to be effective in those situations. Naturally it was agreed I am allowed to see my records but, as we know, it hasn't been as simple as one would expect. So while they haven't said " No " (which would get them into trouble), the system in practice has been one huge delaying charade in my opinion. I almost wish the health centre was more honest and simply put up a sign worded " Please do not ask to view your blood test results as a refusal often offends! " Tracey > > Hi, > It just seems unbelievable that you are having so much trouble getting > results about YOUR blood tests, I found this link by accident on > thyroid uk, I wonder if it would be of any help to you? > > Comprehensive guidance on the Freedom of Information Act can be found > at www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk > > Good luck, hope things work out for you without too much more stress, > > x > > > PALS got back to me today. It seems there is no set rule which the > > health practices need apply to. They are free to make up their own > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Leah's message echoes my thoughts exactly. How awful for you. Nobody has the right to treat a person the way you were treated. P > When you eventually do manage to get your results back from them, perhaps you should change doctors! She sounds atrocious. Not only is the suggestion that a 0.01 difference in TSH level could make all the difference in a diagnosis ludicrous, but it does not allow any margin of error for the test kit! To tell you it is all in your head and bring up a traumatic event in your family is just disgraceful... If I hadn't experienced similar and seen other stories on here I would be gobsmacked! Leah x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 At the time I felt truly mortified that ANY doctor could behave so badly and it was only much later that I discovered that some of the oldies in the local sheltered accommodation have their own nickname for her. It is, wait for it... .... " The Bitch-doctor " !! ROFL And Leah, the very small margin in the test result turned out to be academic. In pratice they now tend to delay diagnosis and medication until the TSH exceeds 10. I couldn't believe it when my results over 6 and 7 were just discounted, it seemed like the end of the world. I did eventually get my trial and diagnosis but, like many of us here have found, it was a long and windy road with many wrong signposts and dead ends. Tracey > > > When you eventually do manage to get your results back from them, > perhaps you should change doctors! She sounds atrocious. Not only is > the suggestion that a 0.01 difference in TSH level could make all the > difference in a diagnosis ludicrous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 ''She actually twisted my family history of thyroid problem arguement by bringing up my sister's suicide and citing it as proof of my family being predisposed to mental illness. I'm afraid I burst into tears at that point and she said " See, you ARE depressed! " I am having UnChristian thoughts about her. I feel that was very cruel and manipulative of her (thats the nice version) What a horrible thing to do, I think SHE would have cried under such circumstances grrrr. The more I hear on these boards... ((hugs)) lotsa luv Dawnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Hi It sounds like a good protocol, but in that case I would never get mine as TSH is always 0.01 as I take Armour ( which my GP refuses to prescribe) and T3 over range because I need it. But I always get my results as I state that I don't want an interpretation, just the numbers. Subject: Re: Blood test release rules changed again! It has always been the case here that the receptionist can only give the numbers once a doctor has looked at them. If they are normal they give them, if abnormal the doctor has to see/speak to the patient first, once this is done they will give them. Chris > > Our surgery has started saying this as well, we had an argument with > the receptionist last week when we asked for copies of my husbands > blood tests. They say they now have to ask the Dr's permission before > they can give them out, he said yes no problem but it's a pain when > the Dr isn't there to ask and you have to call back when he is. > We even spoke to the practise manager about it and they said this is > what they have to do now. > > Luv Dee > > > ------------------------------------ TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Hi Tracey, Don't worry, once bureaucracy steps in everybody goes out of the way to be awkward it's human nature! Subject: Re: Blood test release rules changed again! The other doctor has now phoned me and said he is not permitted to disclose my results to me. It is an etiquette thing between the doctors in the practice rather than him personally refusing. I now have to phone my own doctor on Monday, when he will be back on site. I'm rather worried actually as I think it means my results may have revealed something wrong. They wouldn't be going out of their way to do this otherwise would they? I'm trying not to panic but I know myself well enough to know that there is little I can do to stop this preying on my mind all weekend now. Tracey ------------------------------------ TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Hi Tracey, Ours asks personal details before giving results over the phone. Subject: Re: Blood test release rules changed again! That is indeed most strange Val. However, my practice has never given out results over the phone as the caller could theoretically be anyone even if the secretary recognises the voice. Tracey ------------------------------------ TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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