Re: Question to ponder - Iodine and Autoimmune thyroid disease

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Thanks for the tip Steph, but she hates applesauce and being on a GFCF diet plus

the

diabetes makes it difficult to find things to put the contents of pills or crush

them into

that will coincide with her diet. I did come up with a mixture made of cocoa,

coconut

cream and Xylitol that I can mix stuff into, but with the amount of items that

the doc

wants her on, it doesn't work too well.

Linn

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> >> I tried NCD and it helped with flare ups while chelating but I wouldn't

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> >> it is a good way to chelate.

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I'm concerned about having my daughter's TPO count zoom up again, at one point

her

count was over 5000. We're in the Houston area, her doc's name is Arturo Volpe.

I had read about NCD a while back and it recently came to my attention again. I

was

interested especially since it's drops and could be given to her easily.

Linn

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> > > > Hi Chantal

> > > > I wanted to interject that autoimmunes (AID) can also be caused by

> > > > undiagnosed gluten-sensitivity. This may even fit under the

> category of

> > > > environmental toxins, I don't know. I just got off the phone with

> > > the lab

> > > > that did my testing for celiac, and she explained it so GOOD! But no

> > > way can

> > > > I repeat it.

> > > > --

> > > > Warmest Regards,

> > > > Robin Little

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> > > > I have a book called Autoimmune Diseases and the Environmental

> > > > Triggers.I believe most AID today is caused by toxins.

> > > > .....

> > > > Chantal

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my daughter did peanut butter for a while but that was sticky. Wow you have

a tough one. No applesauce - not even a tsp. I make my own - no sugar.

Steph

Re: Question to ponder - Iodine and Autoimmune thyroid

disease

> Thanks for the tip Steph, but she hates applesauce and being on a GFCF

> diet plus the

> diabetes makes it difficult to find things to put the contents of pills or

> crush them into

> that will coincide with her diet. I did come up with a mixture made of

> cocoa, coconut

> cream and Xylitol that I can mix stuff into, but with the amount of items

> that the doc

> wants her on, it doesn't work too well.

>

> Linn

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>> >> it is a good way to chelate.

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>> >> Steph

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She only likes Jif peanut butter and it's loaded with soybean oil, so that's a

no go. The

applesauce would work, but she doesn't like it at all, never has, homemade or

not. Some of

the supplements that she needs to take, taste God awful, when you empty the

capsules.

Obviously the reason they're in the capsule to begin with. :-) It is a tough

one. I'm trying to

find a liquid calcium for her that's not high in carbs. The last one we tried

skyrocketed her

BG. I noticed that Natural Calm just came out with a new type that has calcium

also. Iodine

is easy at least!

Linn

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> my daughter did peanut butter for a while but that was sticky. Wow you have

> a tough one. No applesauce - not even a tsp. I make my own - no sugar.

>

> Steph

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> >

> > Hi Chantal

> > I wanted to interject that autoimmunes (AID) can also be caused by

> > undiagnosed gluten-sensitivity. This may even fit under the category

of

> > environmental toxins, I don't know. I just got off the phone with

> the lab

> > that did my testing for celiac, and she explained it so GOOD! But no

> way can

> > I repeat it.

> > --

> > Warmest Regards,

> > Robin Little

> >

> > I have a book called Autoimmune Diseases and the Environmental

> > Triggers.I believe most AID today is caused by toxins.

> > .....

> > Chantal

> >

>

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Wow I cannot think of another way to hide it. Pills and kids are hard

things. I have taken some really bad tasting vitamins before too.

Steph

Re: Question to ponder - Iodine and Autoimmune thyroid

disease

> She only likes Jif peanut butter and it's loaded with soybean oil, so

> that's a no go. The

> applesauce would work, but she doesn't like it at all, never has, homemade

> or not. Some of

> the supplements that she needs to take, taste God awful, when you empty

> the capsules.

> Obviously the reason they're in the capsule to begin with. :-) It is a

> tough one. I'm trying to

> find a liquid calcium for her that's not high in carbs. The last one we

> tried skyrocketed her

> BG. I noticed that Natural Calm just came out with a new type that has

> calcium also. Iodine

> is easy at least!

>

> Linn

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>> my daughter did peanut butter for a while but that was sticky. Wow you

>> have

>> a tough one. No applesauce - not even a tsp. I make my own - no sugar.

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>> Steph

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On May 1, 2008, at 5:42 PM, ladyhawkblue2 wrote:

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> Here's the chicken /egg question.

> Is the mercury causing the gluten sensitivity that causes the AID or

> is mercury causing the AID and gluten is just another part of the

> equation.

I believe it is the abnormal gut flora that is causing the gluten

sensitivity and the mercury toxicity.

The good bacteria in our intestinal tract have many functions. One of

the functions is to round up the toxins and get them ready to be

detoxed. That would include mercury. If we have an adequate amount of

good bacteria in our gut, the mercury would be excreted. If not, it

stays in the body.

Another one of their functions is to help us digest our food. They

also provide us with immunity. Food allergies are always caused by

inadequate good bacteria in the gut.

So I think the root of both of these problems (gluten sensitivity and

mercury toxicity) is abnormal gut flora.

A good book to read is " Gut & Psychology Syndrome " by Dr. Natasha

McBride, a neurologist and nutritionist who reversed her

son's autism with changes in diet, therapeutic doses of probiotics,

and cod liver oil. She is reversing autism, ADD/ADHD, allergies and

other disorders) for thousands in her clinic in Cambridge.

Here are some videos on this topic on YouTube with Dr.

McBride and Donna Gates, author of " Body Ecology Diet " :

(there are 6 videos in all).

Ann Marie

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I think most endos would say there are too many problems with Armour too! that's b/c they don't know how to use it, don't know about dosing and adrenal support. Support groups like this one should be perfect places to figure out what the "negative reactions" actually are, since we have a wealth of experience.

my coworker has been taking 75mg Iodoral a bit haphazardly for fibromyalgia, also several allopathic meds. I told her I thought she would need more iodine but she was doing pretty well on it. yesterday I go to work to find she is having surgery for a perianal cyst----well this freaks me out! IMO she should NOT have surgery--she should get more iodine and this prob would resolve.

could this be interpreted as a negative reaction or medical ignorance?

Gracia

And the fact is...is that folks are also having Negative reactions to iodine. Understanding and discussing both the positive and negative...and even the in between...without flaming someone...is critical to our understanding. cindi> >>> >> You are missing my point which is that if I had taken 50-100 mg> > iodoral> >> BEFORE I had cancer, I would have been able to avoid it because my> > thyroid> >> could have been improved or healed.> >>

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Thank you! That was very interesting. Looks like they use Potassium Iodate

with the Bromate to avoid going over legal limits. This is Canada too where

the rules are stricter.

Steph

Re: Question to ponder - Iodine and Autoimmune thyroid

disease

> It apparently also has to do with the relative speed with which it

> oxidizes some sulfhydryl-groups on the gluten-proteins in the dough,

> thus forming the carbon-dioxide-trapping qualities of the protein, as

> compared with iodate... probably as a consequence of bread beeing

> baked in a " continuous process " ... see:

> http://www.lallemand.com/BakerYeastNA/eng/PDFs/LBU%20PDF%

> 20FILES/2_2CONMX.PDF

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" DeCubellis Ranch " <decubellisranch@...> wrote:

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> Since my RAI, I have TONS of digestive

> problems, my allergies came back, etc.,etc.

> I only seem to do well when I'm on probiotics.

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Common with low Thyroid levels.

Carol W.

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Me either . Actually didn't show up for me until my 3rd RAI. That was

a HUGE trigger.

Steph

Re: Re: Question to ponder - Iodine and Autoimmune thyroid

disease

>I don't have low thyroid levels anymore:) It wasn't common for me at all

> until after RAI.

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>> " DeCubellis Ranch " <decubellisranch@...> wrote:

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>>> Since my RAI, I have TONS of digestive

>>> problems, my allergies came back, etc.,etc.

>>> I only seem to do well when I'm on probiotics.

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>> Carol W.

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You mean you didn't go hypo after RAI, and they

managed to bring you down to a perfect thyroid level

with RAI, as measured by tight standards of thyroid testing?

Carol

" DeCubellis Ranch " <decubellisranch@...> wrote:

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> I don't have low thyroid levels anymore:)

> It wasn't common for me at all until after RAI.

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> > " DeCubellis Ranch " <decubellisranch@> wrote:

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> >> Since my RAI, I have TONS of digestive

> >> problems, my allergies came back, etc.,etc.

> >> I only seem to do well when I'm on probiotics.

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So did mine by the time I had RAI. It was just at 50 when they decided to

start scheduling.

Re: Re: Question to ponder - Iodine and Autoimmune thyroid

disease

> Hey, you're lucky! My TSH went up to 150 before RAI. I really thought I

> was about to die.

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>> They made me wait until a TSH of 50 was achieved. For me that was 4

>> weeks.

>> Then another 6 weeks to get my synthetic T4 crap back up. Had it been

>> Armour I know I would have recovered better.

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>> Steph

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>>>I wanted to add that I never went off my armour until it was time to do

>>>RAI.

>>> Therefore, I wasn't severely hypo after my TT. Anyway, the thyroid

>>> hormone

>>> is stored in the body and it would take a few weeks to get severely hypo

>>> after surgery.

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>>>>I still don't get this. I would think total

>>>> thyroidectomy = to remove the thyroid, which

>>>> would result in severe hypoT, which would then be

>>>> treated with thyroid med.

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anyone want to hazard a guess as to why 's emails are coming through with an April date? sorry I save some of these and the date is placing this one out of order Re: Re: Question to ponder - Iodine and Autoimmune thyroid disease

I wanted to add that I never went off my armour until it was time to do RAI.

Therefore, I wasn't severely hypo after my TT. Anyway, the thyroid hormone

is stored in the body and it would take a few weeks to get severely hypo

after surgery.

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>I still don't get this. I would think total

> thyroidectomy = to remove the thyroid, which

> would result in severe hypoT, which would then be

> treated with thyroid med.

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Yeah, I have a guess! Someone changed the calendar on my computer! lol I fixed it--thanks for telling me. You never know what kids are going to do...

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anyone want to hazard a guess as to why 's emails are coming through with an April date? sorry I save some of these and the date is placing this one out of order

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What is hashi's toxosis?

irene

At 07:15 PM 5/1/2008, you wrote:

" ladybugsandbees "

<ladybugsandbees@...> wrote:

> One question - if excess iodine is implicated

> in Autoimmune thyroid disease, why is it that

> as iodine levels have dropping in our soil

> and our food in recent years that AIT had increase?

I was doing a lot of shellfish, salmon,

and spirulina by the heaping teaspoonful in smoothies just before

I went into Hashi-toxicosis. This was about 20 yrs ago now.

I probably had hashi antibodies for several yrs previously

and been mildly hypothyroid, undiagnosed,

but the high iodine and selenium tipped the balance and all

hell broke loose. Because immunity been affected by low thyroid

levels, I had all manner of systemic bacterial, viral, fungal

infections also around that time. Docs were completely

mystified. ENT finally suggested hashi when he saw my splotchy

red neck due to thyroid inflammation. Everyone's a bit

different.

Carol W.

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