chelation info with ALA

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For those interested in using DMSA and/or ALA for heavy metals toxin removal:

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/Andy_dose_sched.html

IN GENERAL:

ALL methods of chelation and ALL chelation agents have some risk pay attention to your kid or yourself and what is happening. Your actual results take precedence over anyone's theories of what could happen or should happen. if something has bad results STOP IT do NOT try to chelate mercury if your child or yourself has/have any amalgam dental fillings present. Which chelation agent(s) to use: This is a somewhat complex topic, and there is not an obvious one-size-fits-all answer. As an intro though, Andy does say the following things:

DMSA alone followed by DMSA + ALA is a reasonable option. So is DMPS alone followed by DMPS + ALA. ALA is the only one of the common chelators which crosses the blood-brain-barrier, so you need to use ALA at some point in order to clear mercury from the brain. ALA has specific risks because it crosses the blood-brain-barrier. It is riskier if used soon after mercury exposure (such as soon after amalgam replacement). This should be considered in deciding when to use ALA. ALA tends to lessen copper excretion--- so people taking ALA may have their copper levels increase. This can be a problem for people who already have high copper (which is toxic). This should be considered in deciding when to use ALA. DMSA is stressful to the liver. ALA is helpful to the liver. ALA is sulfury. (This is "good" for some and "bad" for others. If you are a "high sulfur" person, you may need to limit the ALA dose amount and/or limit sulfur foods carefully while chelating with ALA.) Dose frequency:

DMSA: every 4 hours, including at night ALA: every 3 hours, including at night. (You can stretch it to every 4 hours at night if it helps you get a little more sleep, but go back to every 3 hours during the day.) DMSA + ALA (together): same as ALA, every 3 hours, including at night. (You can stretch it to every 4 hours at night if it helps you get a little more sleep, but go back to every 3 hours during the day.) DMPS: every 8 hours DMPS + ALA (together): same as ALA, every 3 hours, including at night. (You can stretch it to every 4 hours at night if it helps you get a little more sleep, but go back to every 3 hours during the day.). Use 1/2 as much DMPS per dose. Dosage:

DMSA (alone or in combination with ALA): 1/8 to 1/2 mg of DMSA per pound of body weight, per dose ALA (alone or in combination with DMSA): 1/8 to 1/2 mg of ALA per pound of body weight, per dose DMPS (alone): 1/4 to 1 mg of DMPS per pound of body weight, per dose (every 8 hours) DMPS (with ALA, given twice as often as when used alone): use 1/2 the amount stated above (which is 1/8 to 1/2 mg per pound of body weight, per dose, every 3-4 hours) Ratio of DMSA to ALA (if using both):

A 1:1 ratio seems to work fine. A ratio between 1:2 and 2:1 is best. Length of cycles:

at least a few days on. Three days on or more is recommended. 2.6 days on is acceptable. (3 entire daytimes and the 2 nights in between = 2.6 days.) (Also, Friday after school until Monday morning = 2.6 days.) Less is getting "iffy". at least as many days off as you had on There is not an obvious one-size-fits-all answer. The following are all reasonable options: 3 days on, 4 days off. OR 3 days on 11 days off . Many other options are also reasonable. Two weeks on at most. How long to wait after amalgam replacement before chelating:

for DMSA: at least 4 days for ALA: at least 3 months. ALA has specific risks because it crosses the blood-brain-barrier. It is riskier if used soon after mercury exposure (such as soon after amalgam replacement). This should be considered in deciding when to use ALA.

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CAN ANYONE TELL ME IF THE TREATMENTS FOR CANDIDA ALSO WOULD ADDRESS SYSTEMIC CANDIDA. THANKS, ANITA ----- Original Message ----- From: ~*Patty*~ Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 5:43 PM Subject: chelation info with ALA For those interested in using DMSA and/or ALA for heavy metals toxin removal: http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/Andy_dose_sched.html IN GENERAL: ALL methods of chelation and ALL chelation agents have some risk pay attention to your kid or yourself and what is happening. Your actual results take precedence over anyone's theories of what could happen or should happen. if something has bad results STOP IT do NOT try to chelate mercury if your child or yourself has/have any amalgam dental fillings present. Which chelation agent(s) to use: This is a somewhat complex topic, and there is not an obvious one-size-fits-all answer. As an intro though, Andy does say the following things: DMSA alone followed by DMSA + ALA is a reasonable option. So is DMPS alone followed by DMPS + ALA. ALA is the only one of the common chelators which crosses the blood-brain-barrier, so you need to use ALA at some point in order to clear mercury from the brain. ALA has specific risks because it crosses the blood-brain-barrier. It is riskier if used soon after mercury exposure (such as soon after amalgam replacement). This should be considered in deciding when to use ALA. ALA tends to lessen copper excretion--- so people taking ALA may have their copper levels increase. This can be a problem for people who already have high copper (which is toxic). This should be considered in deciding when to use ALA. DMSA is stressful to the liver. ALA is helpful to the liver. ALA is sulfury. (This is "good" for some and "bad" for others. If you are a "high sulfur" person, you may need to limit the ALA dose amount and/or limit sulfur foods carefully while chelating with ALA.) Dose frequency: DMSA: every 4 hours, including at night ALA: every 3 hours, including at night. (You can stretch it to every 4 hours at night if it helps you get a little more sleep, but go back to every 3 hours during the day.) DMSA + ALA (together): same as ALA, every 3 hours, including at night. (You can stretch it to every 4 hours at night if it helps you get a little more sleep, but go back to every 3 hours during the day.) DMPS: every 8 hours DMPS + ALA (together): same as ALA, every 3 hours, including at night. (You can stretch it to every 4 hours at night if it helps you get a little more sleep, but go back to every 3 hours during the day.). Use 1/2 as much DMPS per dose. Dosage: DMSA (alone or in combination with ALA): 1/8 to 1/2 mg of DMSA per pound of body weight, per dose ALA (alone or in combination with DMSA): 1/8 to 1/2 mg of ALA per pound of body weight, per dose DMPS (alone): 1/4 to 1 mg of DMPS per pound of body weight, per dose (every 8 hours) DMPS (with ALA, given twice as often as when used alone): use 1/2 the amount stated above (which is 1/8 to 1/2 mg per pound of body weight, per dose, every 3-4 hours) Ratio of DMSA to ALA (if using both): A 1:1 ratio seems to work fine. A ratio between 1:2 and 2:1 is best. Length of cycles: at least a few days on. Three days on or more is recommended. 2.6 days on is acceptable. (3 entire daytimes and the 2 nights in between = 2.6 days.) (Also, Friday after school until Monday morning = 2.6 days.) Less is getting "iffy". at least as many days off as you had on There is not an obvious one-size-fits-all answer. The following are all reasonable options: 3 days on, 4 days off. OR 3 days on 11 days off . Many other options are also reasonable. Two weeks on at most. How long to wait after amalgam replacement before chelating: for DMSA: at least 4 days for ALA: at least 3 months. ALA has specific risks because it crosses the blood-brain-barrier. It is riskier if used soon after mercury exposure (such as soon after amalgam replacement). This should be considered in deciding when to use ALA. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Anita,

When we say Candida infection when spoken in regard to our implant illness, it is usually the systemic version of this infection we are dealing with. The treatments for a simple candida infection will not be lengthy or thorough enough for a systemic infection. Once candida has become systemic, it means the fungus has mutated to a more virulent form, which gets deep into the tissues. It takes months and months of work to eradicate it, along with a very determined attitude and attention to diet.

There are and other internet sites devoted to supporting people through the ups and downs of a systemic candida infection. You might want to check some of them out. Here are some links for the ones:

candidiasis/ (this is the biggest one, with over 1800 members!)

candida-testimonials/

candidarecovery/

Hope this helps.

Patty

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From: anita kessler

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 1:34 PM

Subject: Re: chelation info with ALA

CAN ANYONE TELL ME IF THE TREATMENTS FOR CANDIDA ALSO WOULD ADDRESS SYSTEMIC CANDIDA. THANKS, ANITA