Re: RE..to holly

[Guest guest]

Wow, thanks for the warm welcome.

Patty, thanks for understanding that I am " bummed " ... that's nice to

hear !

I guess I'll tell my story. I am 27, 4 11 and weigh about 95-98

lbs. (fluctuates with my cycles) I've always been small breasted

and TOYED with the idea of getting implants for several years. I

have positive self esteem and certainly don't need breasts to " gain

confidence " etc. etc. I just wanted a little work done. For about

the past 2 years my husband has had a very good job and has made a

decent income. With more $ there was more opportunity to get the

implants. A year ago this month we went to vegas and saw a show

where there was a topless piece (it was not like an X rated show or

anything just a regular vegas show) and the women had breasts.. I

wanted the same .. that's when i decided to get a BA. I researched

for a year and joined a WONDERFUL website with wonderful women.

That is probably one reason why I am so sad is because I really

enjoyed talking with them but I can't go back there and see how they

love their new bbs. (jealousy I guess)

I went on 2 consults. They were fairly brief. I knew of the risks

with silicone (no way in hell would I ever get silicone)Would you

believe they were actually pushing me to get silicone????? (the

plastic surgeons) I honestly believed Saline was fine. And I do

believe there are women (i might venture to say many?) out there

with implants who have no problems but I just can't risk so much on

so little. I love my life , I love my husband and it's not like my

breasts are deformed or anything.

I decided on a plastic surgeon and today was the day for my preop.

I didn't go. And yes I do feel crummy because earlier today I went

in Target and saw all the cute bathing suits that I can't wear

because there's nothing to fill them out with !

The main reason I decided against is I got a baseline mammo and it

came back abnormal. This scared the CRAP out of me. I went in and

found out it was just a calcium deposit (sp) and was normal but when

i got the news it scared me. I realized I can't handle that sort of

stress... Also, the stories of Lupus, etc. etc. wasn't anything to

sneeze at either.

I am certainly not anti plastic surgery in moderation, but it isn't

for me... not now anyway. Not until this whole mess is cleared up

and it doesn't look like it will be anytime soon. I'd like more

evidence that all of these mystery illnesses are NOT caused by the

implants !

Thanks for listening .

--- In , " dimonds68 " <XENA6881@a...>

wrote:

> Hello there Holly, no need to be BUMMED, you should be out

> rejoicing about your HEALTHY life!!!!. I am rejoycing for you!! NO

> NEED to think you made the wrong desicion. You are SMART for

> changing your mind.Don't let anyone tell you any different. Before

I

> got mine in, i did NOT want to hear the negatives. I only talked

to

> women with implants who raved they 'loved them'. Then I got sick,

> and heard stories from just as many women who were disabled or

just

> REALLY ill. Stick around here, and you will KNOW what can happen

to

> you with implants, like becoming disabled, but it might now 'hit

you

> right away', some people it takes months or years! Don't listen to

> others or DRS who want to take your MONEY for the surgery. They

are

> just 'selling you a product', an UNSAFE ONE. It not only steals

your

> body, but your MIND(MEMORY loss is a common symptom we all have-

> called BRAIN FOG) I could not add numbers for a year or drive for

> almost 2 yrs. We have SERIOUS debilitating autoimmine like

disesases

> (maybe you never heard of that). I WISH I were YOU right now,

> instead of me making the WRONG decison getting implants, ruining

my

> health forever, my life savings, and my hair(yes they can make

your

> hair fall out! Another symptom), and my pride. I was 31 when

> implanted, now 35(they are out now). You can read some of our

> stories about women with SALINE(SO CALLED SAFE IMPLANTS)..WE have

> the SAME diseases as women with the silicone gel implants. Click

on

> files on this site..then click on a link(I think it says)real

> stories of women who were implanted/explanted. Also, go to the

home

> page to see the symptoms. WE have illness that some people never

> heard of Like Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Lupus,

> Scerloderma. Look those diseases up on the net, and see if you

would

> like to gamble with one of those for the rest of your life. You

are

> smart, I hope this board and my message to you, makes an impact to

> your SMART decision for the rest of your life. Hope you are not

> still bummed now, but CELEBRATING that you did the right thing!!

> Hugs dimonds

[Guest guest]

One more thing, I was also very uncomfortable with the way my PS

answered my questions on the risks. He was like " well there are

risks to every surgery " etc. etc. etc. It was so generic. I just

wanted to say " show me you have a brain, let's talk about this! "

> > Hello there Holly, no need to be BUMMED, you should be out

> > rejoicing about your HEALTHY life!!!!. I am rejoycing for you!!

NO

> > NEED to think you made the wrong desicion. You are SMART for

> > changing your mind.Don't let anyone tell you any different.

Before

> I

> > got mine in, i did NOT want to hear the negatives. I only talked

> to

> > women with implants who raved they 'loved them'. Then I got

sick,

> > and heard stories from just as many women who were disabled or

> just

> > REALLY ill. Stick around here, and you will KNOW what can happen

> to

> > you with implants, like becoming disabled, but it might now 'hit

> you

> > right away', some people it takes months or years! Don't listen

to

> > others or DRS who want to take your MONEY for the surgery. They

> are

> > just 'selling you a product', an UNSAFE ONE. It not only steals

> your

> > body, but your MIND(MEMORY loss is a common symptom we all have-

> > called BRAIN FOG) I could not add numbers for a year or drive

for

> > almost 2 yrs. We have SERIOUS debilitating autoimmine like

> disesases

> > (maybe you never heard of that). I WISH I were YOU right now,

> > instead of me making the WRONG decison getting implants, ruining

> my

> > health forever, my life savings, and my hair(yes they can make

> your

> > hair fall out! Another symptom), and my pride. I was 31 when

> > implanted, now 35(they are out now). You can read some of our

> > stories about women with SALINE(SO CALLED SAFE IMPLANTS)..WE

have

> > the SAME diseases as women with the silicone gel implants.

Click

> on

> > files on this site..then click on a link(I think it says)real

> > stories of women who were implanted/explanted. Also, go to the

> home

> > page to see the symptoms. WE have illness that some people never

> > heard of Like Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Lupus,

> > Scerloderma. Look those diseases up on the net, and see if you

> would

> > like to gamble with one of those for the rest of your life. You

> are

> > smart, I hope this board and my message to you, makes an impact

to

> > your SMART decision for the rest of your life. Hope you are not

> > still bummed now, but CELEBRATING that you did the right thing!!

> > Hugs dimonds

[Guest guest]

-

Dear Holly

I can so totally understand where you are coming from. I have

always been extremely flat and very insecure since I was a teen in

that area. My two sisters and best friend got them before I decided

to get them. After all saline is just sterile salt water right? I

had them for 11 years and was going slowly downhill until about 3

years ago when a tragedy in my family sent me into deep grief. The

symptoms accelerated until I thought I was going to die. I found

this site--God led me--and had them out 2 1/2 years ago. I had many

symptoms of scleroderma and lupus. I have spent thousands of

dollars and quit my job to try and get better. I am doing much

better but am not symptom free and probably never will be. I still

spend lots of money on health products. My two sisters and friend

think I am nuts that the implants have nothing to do with my

problems. But I know they did. Two weeks after explant, this

terrible unrelenting drunken like dizziness that I had started

experincing left. Since explant many many symptoms have gotten much

better. My one sister is starting to develop some of the symptoms I

had. She thinks it part of getting older. She is 50. My other

sister is 44 and she seems to be symptom free. My good friend has

had many many problems and doesn't think any of them are related to

her implants. However she she used to be in great shape and work

out all the time and now she has so many neck and shoulder and arm

problems and depression and messed up hormones. So out of the 4 of

us, only 1 of that group probably has no symptoms from her saline

implants. It is just that many people will never connect the two.

So you definitely made the safe decision and I applaud you! Take

care.

kathy

-- In , " Holly Z. Steirman "

<tuxedo_cat777@y...> wrote:

> Wow, thanks for the warm welcome.

> Patty, thanks for understanding that I am " bummed " ... that's nice

to

> hear !

>

> I guess I'll tell my story. I am 27, 4 11 and weigh about 95-98

> lbs. (fluctuates with my cycles) I've always been small breasted

> and TOYED with the idea of getting implants for several years. I

> have positive self esteem and certainly don't need breasts

to " gain

> confidence " etc. etc. I just wanted a little work done. For

about

> the past 2 years my husband has had a very good job and has made a

> decent income. With more $ there was more opportunity to get the

> implants. A year ago this month we went to vegas and saw a show

> where there was a topless piece (it was not like an X rated show

or

> anything just a regular vegas show) and the women had breasts.. I

> wanted the same .. that's when i decided to get a BA. I

researched

> for a year and joined a WONDERFUL website with wonderful women.

> That is probably one reason why I am so sad is because I really

> enjoyed talking with them but I can't go back there and see how

they

> love their new bbs. (jealousy I guess)

>

> I went on 2 consults. They were fairly brief. I knew of the risks

> with silicone (no way in hell would I ever get silicone)Would you

> believe they were actually pushing me to get silicone????? (the

> plastic surgeons) I honestly believed Saline was fine. And I

do

> believe there are women (i might venture to say many?) out there

> with implants who have no problems but I just can't risk so much

on

> so little. I love my life , I love my husband and it's not like

my

> breasts are deformed or anything.

>

> I decided on a plastic surgeon and today was the day for my

preop.

> I didn't go. And yes I do feel crummy because earlier today I went

> in Target and saw all the cute bathing suits that I can't wear

> because there's nothing to fill them out with !

>

> The main reason I decided against is I got a baseline mammo and

it

> came back abnormal. This scared the CRAP out of me. I went in

and

> found out it was just a calcium deposit (sp) and was normal but

when

> i got the news it scared me. I realized I can't handle that sort

of

> stress... Also, the stories of Lupus, etc. etc. wasn't anything to

> sneeze at either.

>

> I am certainly not anti plastic surgery in moderation, but it

isn't

> for me... not now anyway. Not until this whole mess is cleared up

> and it doesn't look like it will be anytime soon. I'd like more

> evidence that all of these mystery illnesses are NOT caused by the

> implants !

>

> Thanks for listening .

>

> > Hello there Holly, no need to be BUMMED, you should be out

> > rejoicing about your HEALTHY life!!!!. I am rejoycing for you!!

NO

> > NEED to think you made the wrong desicion. You are SMART for

> > changing your mind.Don't let anyone tell you any different.

Before

> I

> > got mine in, i did NOT want to hear the negatives. I only talked

> to

> > women with implants who raved they 'loved them'. Then I got

sick,

> > and heard stories from just as many women who were disabled or

> just

> > REALLY ill. Stick around here, and you will KNOW what can happen

> to

> > you with implants, like becoming disabled, but it might now 'hit

> you

> > right away', some people it takes months or years! Don't listen

to

> > others or DRS who want to take your MONEY for the surgery. They

> are

> > just 'selling you a product', an UNSAFE ONE. It not only steals

> your

> > body, but your MIND(MEMORY loss is a common symptom we all have-

> > called BRAIN FOG) I could not add numbers for a year or drive

for

> > almost 2 yrs. We have SERIOUS debilitating autoimmine like

> disesases

> > (maybe you never heard of that). I WISH I were YOU right now,

> > instead of me making the WRONG decison getting implants, ruining

> my

> > health forever, my life savings, and my hair(yes they can make

> your

> > hair fall out! Another symptom), and my pride. I was 31 when

> > implanted, now 35(they are out now). You can read some of our

> > stories about women with SALINE(SO CALLED SAFE IMPLANTS)..WE

have

> > the SAME diseases as women with the silicone gel implants.

Click

> on

> > files on this site..then click on a link(I think it says)real

> > stories of women who were implanted/explanted. Also, go to the

> home

> > page to see the symptoms. WE have illness that some people never

> > heard of Like Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Lupus,

> > Scerloderma. Look those diseases up on the net, and see if you

> would

> > like to gamble with one of those for the rest of your life. You

> are

> > smart, I hope this board and my message to you, makes an impact

to

> > your SMART decision for the rest of your life. Hope you are not

> > still bummed now, but CELEBRATING that you did the right thing!!

> > Hugs dimonds

[Guest guest]

Thanks kathy !

I got to message 2000 last nite, I'm determined to read all of them.

> > > Hello there Holly, no need to be BUMMED, you should be out

> > > rejoicing about your HEALTHY life!!!!. I am rejoycing for

you!!

> NO

> > > NEED to think you made the wrong desicion. You are SMART for

> > > changing your mind.Don't let anyone tell you any different.

> Before

> > I

> > > got mine in, i did NOT want to hear the negatives. I only

talked

> > to

> > > women with implants who raved they 'loved them'. Then I got

> sick,

> > > and heard stories from just as many women who were disabled or

> > just

> > > REALLY ill. Stick around here, and you will KNOW what can

happen

> > to

> > > you with implants, like becoming disabled, but it might

now 'hit

> > you

> > > right away', some people it takes months or years! Don't

listen

> to

> > > others or DRS who want to take your MONEY for the surgery.

They

> > are

> > > just 'selling you a product', an UNSAFE ONE. It not only

steals

> > your

> > > body, but your MIND(MEMORY loss is a common symptom we all

have-

> > > called BRAIN FOG) I could not add numbers for a year or drive

> for

> > > almost 2 yrs. We have SERIOUS debilitating autoimmine like

> > disesases

> > > (maybe you never heard of that). I WISH I were YOU right now,

> > > instead of me making the WRONG decison getting implants,

ruining

> > my

> > > health forever, my life savings, and my hair(yes they can make

> > your

> > > hair fall out! Another symptom), and my pride. I was 31 when

> > > implanted, now 35(they are out now). You can read some of our

> > > stories about women with SALINE(SO CALLED SAFE IMPLANTS)..WE

> have

> > > the SAME diseases as women with the silicone gel implants.

> Click

> > on

> > > files on this site..then click on a link(I think it says)real

> > > stories of women who were implanted/explanted. Also, go to the

> > home

> > > page to see the symptoms. WE have illness that some people

never

> > > heard of Like Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Lupus,

> > > Scerloderma. Look those diseases up on the net, and see if you

> > would

> > > like to gamble with one of those for the rest of your life.

You

> > are

> > > smart, I hope this board and my message to you, makes an

impact

> to

> > > your SMART decision for the rest of your life. Hope you are

not

> > > still bummed now, but CELEBRATING that you did the right

thing!!

> > > Hugs dimonds