Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Bromelain is in pineapple and is totally different than bromide which is a halogen. Bromide is in everything around out. It is in our car materials, fire retardants on clothing, carpeting, furniture. It is in our computers and other electronic devices. It is used as a pesticide on fruits such as strawberries. It is also used in Mt Dew and other citrus drinks such as Gatorade. It is in commercial bread products as a dough conditioner. You can read about it here (toward the bottom) to see the list of where it can be found. http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/bromidedominancetheory.html bromides I am starting to try iodine with mixed results. I do not know of any particular bromide exposure that I could have had unless bromelain is indicated. I have search online and do not see anywhere that this is a source of bromide. Please correct me if you know otherwise. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Here is another source for information on bromides http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=chem & id=1057 & query=bromide & prodcat=all bromides I am starting to try iodine with mixed results. I do not know of any particular bromide exposure that I could have had unless bromelain is indicated. I have search online and do not see anywhere that this is a source of bromide. Please correct me if you know otherwise. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Ok, I worked myself up to taking 50mg of Iodoral a day now. This is the third day on 50mg. Yesterday I had about an hour that I felt like I had a cold, my head felt full and I had some draining. Then I was ok. Today, I’m not feeling good at all. My ears ache and I feel sick like flu. I already drink two quarts of water every day along with my Celtic salt, and I have to push myself to do that. I don’t think I can drink more. I have taken a bunch of vitamin C today, will continue that. If I still feel this bad tomorrow can I just not take any Iodoral for the day? This is not fun. I’m thinking if I keep taking the Iodoral I’ll get even worse. Help me here please, what can I expect and what is your advice? Thanks. Joni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Have you done the salt flush? Directions are on the www.breastcancerchoices.org website as well. I think that would help you. Steph RE: bromides Ok, I worked myself up to taking 50mg of Iodoral a day now. This is the third day on 50mg. Yesterday I had about an hour that I felt like I had a cold, my head felt full and I had some draining. Then I was ok. Today, I’m not feeling good at all. My ears ache and I feel sick like flu. I already drink two quarts of water every day along with my Celtic salt, and I have to push myself to do that. I don’t think I can drink more. I have taken a bunch of vitamin C today, will continue that. If I still feel this bad tomorrow can I just not take any Iodoral for the day? This is not fun. I’m thinking if I keep taking the Iodoral I’ll get even worse. Help me here please, what can I expect and what is your advice? Thanks. Joni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 I know this is just splitting hairs, but...Bromide is never actually used on the strawberries. It is used on the dirt, a few weeks prior to planting the strawberries because it is the only thing that will kill the specific type of nematode in the dirt. It isn't ever applied to the plants or the fruit. >>It is used as a pesticide on fruits such as strawberries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Hi , Plants mine minerals from the earth. If bromide is applied on or in the soil the plants roots will uptake the bromide just as it would applied fertilizer. ~ > > I know this is just splitting hairs, but...Bromide is never actually used on the strawberries. It is used on the dirt, a few weeks prior to planting the strawberries because it is the only thing that will kill the specific type of nematode in the dirt. It isn't ever applied to the plants or the fruit. > > > > >>It is used as a pesticide on fruits such as strawberries. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Then when the strawberries get planted they must absorb it so that it is systemic and you can't wash it off? On Feb 13, 2008, at 6:25 AM, DeCubellis Ranch wrote: > I know this is just splitting hairs, but...Bromide is never actually > used on the strawberries. It is used on the dirt, a few weeks prior > to planting the strawberries because it is the only thing that will > kill the specific type of nematode in the dirt. It isn't ever applied > to the plants or the fruit. > > Parashis artpages@... portfolio pages: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11468108@N08/ http://www.artpagesonline.com/EPportfolio/000portfolio.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 That would be my guess. ~ > > > I know this is just splitting hairs, but...Bromide is never actually > > used on the strawberries. It is used on the dirt, a few weeks prior > > to planting the strawberries because it is the only thing that will > > kill the specific type of nematode in the dirt. It isn't ever applied > > to the plants or the fruit. > > > > > Parashis > artpages@... > > portfolio pages: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/11468108@N08/ > > http://www.artpagesonline.com/EPportfolio/000portfolio.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 According to the university studies I've read (and extension agents I've asked), and the reason this methyl bromide is now outlawed, is that it DOES NOT stay in the dirt. It is applied as a gas which then dissipates into the air. The strawberries don't absorb it, which is what I was trying to explain in my earlier post. This is totally different than the traditional pesticide. I won't go into agricultural discussion here since this doesn't really relate to iodine. The new approved soil treatment for nematodes is a gas called methyl iodide. All other nations that import strawberries to the US, still use methyl bromide. However, as is scientifically studied by land-grant universities, this does not stay in the dirt as it is applied as a gas weeks before the strawberries are ever planted in the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 I have taken 100mg Iodoral for several years--I really need that much plus all the other stuff like ATP cofactors and companion nutrients. I also take HC 5mg 4X a day. I urge ppl not to be scared of taking iodine. I had problems taking less than 50mg and felt much better on 100mg gracia On 3/9/2011 10:52 AM, Terry Quinn wrote: I have started on the drops. I raised it to three drops. So I guess that is 6.6mgs. It scares me a little to raise it up and get sick, as I am so sick all the time anyway. I just read that the body isn't using any of it if I am high in bromides. So do I HAVE to raise it to the point where I detox to do any good? How can I prevent from taking back in Bromides while getting rid of them? I have read that people should go up to 50mgs. How fast should I go up to that level? I have been having night sweats this week and not sure it is that or because I dropped down on my HC. I dropped it on the right course of 2.5 mgs per week. I am down to 25mgs now and not sure it is going to work. Also if I start detoxing, will it require more cortisol and drop my adrenals too? Thanks, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 >>I have started on the drops. I raised it to three drops. So I guess that >>is 6.6mgs. >>It scares me a little to raise it up and get sick, as I am so sick all >>the time anyway. >>I just read that the body isn't using any of it if I am high in bromides. Where did you read that? It's not true. Taking iodine is the only way to get rid of bromides, and iodine goes to work immediately. In general, it's best to only change one thing at a time if you have any choice about it so that you have more information about what is causing what. I agree with Gracia that fear of iodine is unwarranted. If you raise your dose and you have a detox reaction that is too much, just back down the dose slightly to avoid the strong detox symptoms and " soak " your dose for a while. -- >>So do I HAVE to raise it to the point where I detox to do any good? >>How can I prevent from taking back in Bromides while getting rid of them? >>I have read that people should go up to 50mgs. >>How fast should I go up to that level? >>I have been having night sweats this week and not sure it is that or >>because I dropped down on my HC. >>I dropped it on the right course of 2.5 mgs per week. >>I am down to 25mgs now and not sure it is going to work. >>Also if I start detoxing, will it require more cortisol and drop my >>adrenals too? >>Thanks, Terry > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 I am up to 12 iodoral a day. I think that is 150 mg a day, but I do only six or none on the weekends.I started of with 12.5 and gradually over a couple of yearsworked my way up, because my liver would clog, and I startedto get body pain, and ankle swelling, stmptoms of a clogged liver.You just have to pay attn. to your body.Detox side affects for me are headache and itchy skin.That lasts a 2 - days, and then passes.Then I notice I can decrease my desiccated thyroid.So it really is a regime that needs to be tailored to the individual.I always take the full vitamin regime because that is what helps the bromideout of the body, liver and exit through the urine.And for me, I need a few liver detox supplements as well: milk thistle,dandilion, and a liver detox mixture supp.It is important to keep raising it/iodine because as you do that is when the detoxoccurs, and kicks out the bromide thus saturating the body with iodine.And it takes a few years to detox , just as it took a life time for your body to have the bromidetoxicity.As for the adrenals, I have not healed mine yet because I am addicted to caffiene.So, can't claim to know how to heal mine. But they are definitely suffering.AliOn Mar 10, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Gracia wrote: I have taken 100mg Iodoral for several years--I really need that much plus all the other stuff like ATP cofactors and companion nutrients. I also take HC 5mg 4X a day. I urge ppl not to be scared of taking iodine. I had problems taking less than 50mg and felt much better on 100mg gracia On 3/9/2011 10:52 AM, Terry Quinn wrote: I have started on the drops. I raised it to three drops. So I guess that is 6.6mgs. It scares me a little to raise it up and get sick, as I am so sick all the time anyway. I just read that the body isn't using any of it if I am high in bromides. So do I HAVE to raise it to the point where I detox to do any good? How can I prevent from taking back in Bromides while getting rid of them? I have read that people should go up to 50mgs. How fast should I go up to that level? I have been having night sweats this week and not sure it is that or because I dropped down on my HC. I dropped it on the right course of 2.5 mgs per week. I am down to 25mgs now and not sure it is going to work. Also if I start detoxing, will it require more cortisol and drop my adrenals too? Thanks, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 i was doing the same with iodine but i got this cough that lasted about 4 or 5 months. i thought allergies. then i went off iodine and all of a sudden noticed the cough was gone. I am starting up again but what was that with the cough? if i start coughing again, am i then allergic to the iodine? also i had had bad cramps in legs and feet for a while then started the magnesium, calcium, potassium (low dose) and selenium along with vits c, d3, milk thistle, b12 and b6, niacin, and a couple others and the cramps were gone. yesterday after taking my fluid pill in the morning got busy and didn't drink a lot but by around 1 i could hardly walk, my joints ached and were stiff and i felt like i was going to have a cramp. so i came home drank drank drank and still didn't feel well. took a dose of sea salt, my ankles swelled and now i feel better but i took the day off work since i didn't feel great this morning. did the sea salt make me swell up? diane, near philly, pa On Mar 10, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Alison Trotta-Marshall wrote:I am up to 12 iodoral a day. I think that is 150 mg a day, but I do only six or none on the weekends.I started of with 12.5 and gradually over a couple of yearsworked my way up, because my liver would clog, and I startedto get body pain, and ankle swelling, stmptoms of a clogged liver.You just have to pay attn. to your body.Detox side affects for me are headache and itchy skin.That lasts a 2 - days, and then passes.Then I notice I can decrease my desiccated thyroid.So it really is a regime that needs to be tailored to the individual.I always take the full vitamin regime because that is what helps the bromideout of the body, liver and exit through the urine.And for me, I need a few liver detox supplements as well: milk thistle,dandilion, and a liver detox mixture supp.It is important to keep raising it/iodine because as you do that is when the detoxoccurs, and kicks out the bromide thus saturating the body with iodine.And it takes a few years to detox , just as it took a life time for your body to have the bromidetoxicity.A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 The skin and the lungs are two of the bodies may detox routes. I wonder if this is why you were coughing. I wonder if you start coughing again what would happen if you backed off instead of stopping all together. Maybe this would slow the detox and you wouldn't have lung symptoms. just a thought. Kathleen > > > I am up to 12 iodoral a day. I think that is 150 mg a day, but > > > > I do only six or none on the weekends. > > > > I started of with 12.5 and gradually over a couple of years > > worked my way up, because my liver would clog, and I started > > to get body pain, and ankle swelling, stmptoms of a clogged liver. > > > > You just have to pay attn. to your body. > > Detox side affects for me are headache and itchy skin. > > That lasts a 2 - days, and then passes. > > Then I notice I can decrease my desiccated thyroid. > > > > So it really is a regime that needs to be tailored to the individual. > > > > I always take the full vitamin regime because that is what helps the > > bromide > > out of the body, liver and exit through the urine. > > > > And for me, I need a few liver detox supplements as well: milk > > thistle, > > dandilion, and a liver detox mixture supp. > > > > It is important to keep raising it/iodine because as you do that is > > when the detox > > occurs, and kicks out the bromide thus saturating the body with > > iodine. > > And it takes a few years to detox , just as it took a life time for > > your body to have the bromide > > toxicity. > > > > A > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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