Re: From Thyroxine to Armour -feeling woozy

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone

I too have been taking armour for 5 days now. I have nausea which comes

and goes, can't really say i feel any better or worse at the moment,

apart from my lumpy throat has gone. How long should i give it? The

headaches do go away with paracetamol. Is it just that my body is

adjusting?

Ali

X

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sheila

I am taking 1/2 grain am. Maybe i sould split this. I have never had

an adrenal test. But i have been taking NAE for a couple of months

now. Only 1 per day though.

Ali

X

>

> Your body is probably adjusting to the other hormones that are in

Armour Ali and it should soon become acclimatised to this new change.

Five days is no time to expect to be feeling better. You need to add

another half grain in a couple of days and stay on that for 3 to 4

weeks. I have no idea why you should be experiencing nausea and would

doubt this would be from taking Armour unless you have low adrenal

reserve, and if this is the case, you must supplement the adrenals

first. Have you had a 24 hour salivary adrenal profile recently?

>

> Remind me how much Armour you are taking and whether you are taking

it as a split dose or not.

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ali

I would recommend you increase your NAE with immediate effect. Take one with breakfast and another with lunch. Stay on that for a couple of weeks and then add another one with your breakfast so you are taking three tablets daily. Don't take any after 1.00p.m. because of the extra adrenaline and it might keep you awake.

Always take your Armour split into two doses. You are probably feeling woozy because you are taking all the T3 in one dose, and your body can't quite cope with that all at once.

luv - Sheila

Thanks SheilaI am taking 1/2 grain am. Maybe i sould split this. I have never had an adrenal test. But i have been taking NAE for a couple of months now. Only 1 per day though.AliX>> Your body is probably adjusting to the other hormones that are in Armour Ali and it should soon become acclimatised to this new change. Five days is no time to expect to be feeling better. You need to add another half grain in a couple of days and stay on that for 3 to 4 weeks. I have no idea why you should be experiencing nausea and would doubt this would be from taking Armour unless you have low adrenal reserve, and if this is the case, you must supplement the adrenals first. Have you had a 24 hour salivary adrenal profile recently?> > Remind me how much Armour you are taking and whether you are taking it as a split dose or not.> > Luv - Sheila> >

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[Guest guest]

I have no idea why you should be experiencing nausea and would

> doubt this would be from taking Armour unless you have low adrenal

> reserve, and if this is the case, you must supplement the adrenals

> first.

I experienced nausea when I started on armour thyroid and I had been

supplementing my adrenals for nearly a year. I had to stop after a

week and I am waiting until I see Dr P next week. I think I will have

to supplement the adrenals more - I haven't added hydro cortisone yet -

feeling a bit of a baby here. I do use Dr 's dynamite adrenals

and I have used NAE but don't think the adrenaline here agrees with

me. I did speak to Dr P and he hasn't heard of anyone not getting on

with NAE .... (think I must be the exception or maybe it is the

combination of NAE and AT). My saliva tests have shown the cortisol

up but both cortisol and dhea low still.

luv keri

[Guest guest]

Hi Keri

I think i will give it a while longer. Let us know how you get on.

ali

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> I experienced nausea when I started on armour thyroid and I had

been

> supplementing my adrenals for nearly a year. I had to stop after a

> week and I am waiting until I see Dr P next week. I think I will

have

> to supplement the adrenals more - I haven't added hydro cortisone

yet -

> feeling a bit of a baby here. I do use Dr 's dynamite

adrenals

> and I have used NAE but don't think the adrenaline here agrees with

> me. I did speak to Dr P and he hasn't heard of anyone not getting

on

> with NAE .... (think I must be the exception or maybe it is the

> combination of NAE and AT). My saliva tests have shown the

cortisol

> up but both cortisol and dhea low still.

>

> luv keri

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sheila

I will give it a whirl.

Ali

X

>

> Hi Ali

>

> I would recommend you increase your NAE with immediate effect. Take

one with breakfast and another with lunch. Stay on that for a couple

of weeks and then add another one with your breakfast so you are

taking three tablets daily. Don't take any after 1.00p.m. because of

the extra adrenaline and it might keep you awake.

>

> Always take your Armour split into two doses. You are probably

feeling woozy because you are taking all the T3 in one dose, and your

body can't quite cope with that all at once.

>

[Guest guest]

I know people from another group who couldn't take NAE because of the

extra adrenaline, which is why I was advised to take Thorne Adrenal

Cortex instead, as I already had high levels of anxiety and it was put

to me that extra adrenaline was the last thing I needed. I seem to

remember someone else on this group posting the same thing not long ago.

I didn't improve with the Thorne though and my cortisol/dhea levels are

similar to yours now and obviously needed HC sooner. I'm just biding

my time until I can start on HC or Isocort, depending on the outcome of

my first endo appointment next week.

BW

Gillian.

>I have used NAE but don't think the adrenaline here agrees with

> me. I did speak to Dr P and he hasn't heard of anyone not getting on

> with NAE .... (think I must be the exception or maybe it is the

> combination of NAE and AT).

>

> luv keri

>

[Guest guest]

HI Gillian

I honestly doubt your endocrinologist will even admit you might have an adrenal problem, but we will wait and see on that score. It might be a good idea to start on Isocort, rather than hypodrocortisone and see if that works for you.

Luv - Sheila

I know people from another group who couldn't take NAE because of the extra adrenaline, which is why I was advised to take Thorne Adrenal Cortex instead, as I already had high levels of anxiety and it was put to me that extra adrenaline was the last thing I needed. I seem to remember someone else on this group posting the same thing not long ago.I didn't improve with the Thorne though and my cortisol/dhea levels are similar to yours now and obviously needed HC sooner. I'm just biding my time until I can start on HC or Isocort, depending on the outcome of my first endo appointment next week.BWGillian.>I have used NAE but don't think the adrenaline here agrees with > me. I did speak to Dr P and he hasn't heard of anyone not getting on > with NAE .... (think I must be the exception or maybe it is the > combination of NAE and AT).> > luv keri>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Ali,

Could be body adjusting, have you thought of reducing dose slightly

before trying it again to see if that helps.

May be a reaction to one of the fillers

Note that if you take the same pain killers for too long this can actually

cause headaches so best to keep changing types to stop this happening.

Subject: Re: From Thyroxine to Armour -feeling

woozy

Hi everyone

I too have been taking armour for 5 days now. I have nausea which comes

and goes, can't really say i feel any better or worse at the moment,

apart from my lumpy throat has gone. How long should i give it? The

headaches do go away with paracetamol. Is it just that my body is

adjusting?

Ali

X

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila,

Sorry I've not done this sooner but I'm struggling both physically and

mentally and just not functioning, can't think and so can't put things

into words properly. I'd like to post more but usually only do it when

I have a bit of clarity as I get more stressed with frustration.

I agree about the endocrinologist and the adrenal problem and am just

hanging on (desperately) to get this appointment out of the way as I'm

to contact Dr Peatfield afterwards to decide on HC/Isocort and possible

T3 cos as we know, if I do manage to get a diagnosis of Hashimotos I'm

only going to be prescribed T4 - but I have the other positive

antibodies (ANA & ASMA) which point to possible AIH (Autoimmune Hepatis)

and the treatment for that is prednisolone.

I think you're right about the Isocort, June suggested that as well. I

thought I might order some now in readiness as I've been waiting so long

to get started and know I'm getting worse all the time.

Thanks a lot,

Gillian.

>

> HI Gillian

>

> I honestly doubt your endocrinologist will even admit you might have

an adrenal problem, but we will wait and see on that score. It might be

a good idea to start on Isocort, rather than hypodrocortisone and see if

that works for you.

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

[Guest guest]

HI Gillian

Oh, how I wish I could come over there and wave a magic wand over your head and tell you everything will be alright and that you will get better. You WILL get better - but my magic wand would have made thios instantaneous.

I would definitely order the Isocort. Have you spoken with Dr Peatfield lately to see if there is anything else you can be doing to give you a bit of a lift before you see your endocrinologist?

Luv - Sheila

Re: From Thyroxine to Armour -feeling woozy

Hi Sheila,Sorry I've not done this sooner but I'm struggling both physically andmentally and just not functioning, can't think and so can't put thingsinto words properly. I'd like to post more but usually only do it whenI have a bit of clarity as I get more stressed with frustration.I agree about the endocrinologist and the adrenal problem and am justhanging on (desperately) to get this appointment out of the way as I'mto contact Dr Peatfield afterwards to decide on HC/Isocort and possibleT3 cos as we know, if I do manage to get a diagnosis of Hashimotos I'monly going to be prescribed T4 - but I have the other positiveantibodies (ANA & ASMA) which point to possible AIH (Autoimmune Hepatis)and the treatment for that is prednisolone.I think you're right about the Isocort, June suggested that as well. Ithought I might order some now in readiness as I've been waiting so longto get started and know I'm getting worse all the time.Thanks a lot,Gillian.>> HI Gillian>> I honestly doubt your endocrinologist will even admit you might havean adrenal problem, but we will wait and see on that score. It might bea good idea to start on Isocort, rather than hypodrocortisone and see ifthat works for you.>> Luv - Sheila>

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