Guest guest Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 Ann, I just wanted to mention that I also had a rash on my breasts, but it did not appear until after explant, and even occurred for several years after explant, whenever I fasted. I have a picture of the rash on my breasts posted in our photos section. My naturopathic physician told me it was a sign that the toxins were being removed through the skin. It could be that this is what you are experiencing, I don't know, but if it is, then the last thing you want to do is put more stuff on your skin. You will want to wash it and keep it clean, and let the toxins come out. Putting creams directly on it and taking stuff to stop the release of toxins, (like benadryl to stop the reaction) will prevent healing from taking place. This is a very important concept in natural healing, and contrary to allopathic medicine. Allopathic medicine takes the approach that all these evidences of natural body processes need to be stopped, which is a bandaid approach, rather than a true cure for the root of the problem. I want to emphasize the fact that, in my experience (and I know others will agree with me who have been involved in the breast implant issue), natural healing methods are much more effective for us than drugs and other pharmaceuticals. The more toxic you are, the less you actually put in your body for healing. The goal is to get it all out and not put alot in except for nutritional building blocks. As I said, I don't know if this is your case or not. Did you say that the rash had to be gone before you could get explanted? You may want to stop any kind of detox therapy at all that you may be doing right now, as this will probably keep the rash present. I hope your doctor will be knowledgeable enough to know that the best thing to heal the rash would be to get rid of the very thing that may be causing it, the implants. It really is up to you as to how you want to deal with it. In my case, I did nothing but shower. My rash went away eventually after fasting, and I continued my fasting regimen at regular intervals until I could fast without a rash appearing. It was after that that my healing started going faster. I hope this helps! Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbie B. Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:30 AM Subject: Ann- your rash Ann, gosh I'm sorry. I thought you had been using the nystatin already and it was helping. I must have misunderstood. It should have not done that to you though. I have not heard of that. More than anything it should soothe the itching rash. That really suprises me. Did you put anything else on your rash that could have interacted with the nystatin? First thing I would do is wash your chest right away if you think it is worse. Wash with water and soap ( mild, or whatever you have) really well to remove all the cream & product. Let it air dry. I would wait to put anything else on. Hold the nystatin and wait. I would take an ibuprofen (advil) for discomfort take up to 3 over the counter for pain. (600mg) If your rash is burning you could apply some cool compresses on. Over like a t-shirt put crushed ice in large freezer bag & wrap thin towel around that and set on your skin or buy some of the chemical ice bags you break and they are activated (i think ace makes one) and set that on your chest to reduce swelling and pain. Never put that directly on your skin, make sure you have t-shirt or towel or something protecting your skin. Do not scratch your skin. It probably is difficult, but scratching will make it spread it sounds like. You could also take benadryl. That will make you sleepy but it will dry up the rash and help with itching. Since your skin is so tender I would not use the topical cream but take the benadryl capsules. You can take 1-2 like every 4-6 hrs. It should say on the box, but benadryl as long as you are not allergic to it is good for all kinds of rashes, poison oak etc. Thats prob. what I would do if you are extremely miserable. What all have you put on your skin? What all are you taking orally? Last but least, if you really need help fast right there you can call your doc's office. They will have answering service or somebody on call like a PA, Nurse, or whoever they use. They should call you back. If you can't get a hold of them try calling your local pharmacist at any drug store. Pharmacist are great resources. They know products bettter than Docs do. I've gotten really good advice from them. The pharmacist will prob. recommend something similar to what I said. You can give it a try though and see what they think. More than one opinion can't hurt. Deb nantynannie <nantynannie@...> wrote: Debbie,Remember I told you about the rash on my breasts? Well it was almost gone on Thursday nite Friday morning. I started using the Nystatin cream on Thursday nite. This morning it is HORRIBLE, the worst it has ever been. It is raised and it is spreading a little. Do you know if the cream will make it worse before it gets better? Or any other advice please...I took another Diflucan last night.ThanksAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 Patty, when you fast, is it a total fast ? For how long ? Fiona ----- Original Message ----- From: ~*Patty*~ Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:42 PM Subject: Re: Ann- your rash Ann, I just wanted to mention that I also had a rash on my breasts, but it did not appear until after explant, and even occurred for several years after explant, whenever I fasted. I have a picture of the rash on my breasts posted in our photos section. My naturopathic physician told me it was a sign that the toxins were being removed through the skin. It could be that this is what you are experiencing, I don't know, but if it is, then the last thing you want to do is put more stuff on your skin. You will want to wash it and keep it clean, and let the toxins come out. Putting creams directly on it and taking stuff to stop the release of toxins, (like benadryl to stop the reaction) will prevent healing from taking place. This is a very important concept in natural healing, and contrary to allopathic medicine. Allopathic medicine takes the approach that all these evidences of natural body processes need to be stopped, which is a bandaid approach, rather than a true cure for the root of the problem. I want to emphasize the fact that, in my experience (and I know others will agree with me who have been involved in the breast implant issue), natural healing methods are much more effective for us than drugs and other pharmaceuticals. The more toxic you are, the less you actually put in your body for healing. The goal is to get it all out and not put alot in except for nutritional building blocks. As I said, I don't know if this is your case or not. Did you say that the rash had to be gone before you could get explanted? You may want to stop any kind of detox therapy at all that you may be doing right now, as this will probably keep the rash present. I hope your doctor will be knowledgeable enough to know that the best thing to heal the rash would be to get rid of the very thing that may be causing it, the implants. It really is up to you as to how you want to deal with it. In my case, I did nothing but shower. My rash went away eventually after fasting, and I continued my fasting regimen at regular intervals until I could fast without a rash appearing. It was after that that my healing started going faster. I hope this helps! Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbie B. Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:30 AM Subject: Ann- your rash Ann, gosh I'm sorry. I thought you had been using the nystatin already and it was helping. I must have misunderstood. It should have not done that to you though. I have not heard of that. More than anything it should soothe the itching rash. That really suprises me. Did you put anything else on your rash that could have interacted with the nystatin? First thing I would do is wash your chest right away if you think it is worse. Wash with water and soap ( mild, or whatever you have) really well to remove all the cream & product. Let it air dry. I would wait to put anything else on. Hold the nystatin and wait. I would take an ibuprofen (advil) for discomfort take up to 3 over the counter for pain. (600mg) If your rash is burning you could apply some cool compresses on. Over like a t-shirt put crushed ice in large freezer bag & wrap thin towel around that and set on your skin or buy some of the chemical ice bags you break and they are activated (i think ace makes one) and set that on your chest to reduce swelling and pain. Never put that directly on your skin, make sure you have t-shirt or towel or something protecting your skin. Do not scratch your skin. It probably is difficult, but scratching will make it spread it sounds like. You could also take benadryl. That will make you sleepy but it will dry up the rash and help with itching. Since your skin is so tender I would not use the topical cream but take the benadryl capsules. You can take 1-2 like every 4-6 hrs. It should say on the box, but benadryl as long as you are not allergic to it is good for all kinds of rashes, poison oak etc. Thats prob. what I would do if you are extremely miserable. What all have you put on your skin? What all are you taking orally? Last but least, if you really need help fast right there you can call your doc's office. They will have answering service or somebody on call like a PA, Nurse, or whoever they use. They should call you back. If you can't get a hold of them try calling your local pharmacist at any drug store. Pharmacist are great resources. They know products bettter than Docs do. I've gotten really good advice from them. The pharmacist will prob. recommend something similar to what I said. You can give it a try though and see what they think. More than one opinion can't hurt. Deb nantynannie <nantynannie@...> wrote: Debbie,Remember I told you about the rash on my breasts? Well it was almost gone on Thursday nite Friday morning. I started using the Nystatin cream on Thursday nite. This morning it is HORRIBLE, the worst it has ever been. It is raised and it is spreading a little. Do you know if the cream will make it worse before it gets better? Or any other advice please...I took another Diflucan last night.ThanksAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 Fiona, My fasts were almost always water only fasts. I did various durations, with the shortest being 3 days and the longest duration, water only, was 10 days. Once I realized that I needed to be doing more than I was for healing, I decided to do fasting on a regular basis, and that resolve was reinforced when I saw the rash on my breasts continally appearing. I did fasts over regular intervals, 3 dayers, 5 dayers, 7 days and 10 days, usually a few weeks or a month apart, until the rashes no longer appeared. In between times, I tried to juice and eat very nutritious meals to build up vitamin reserves. I had learned about fasting as a teenager so I knew what I was getting into, but I began to study the practice of fasting diligently and realized just how effective it was for cleansing. I often did one day fasts as well. I also used the master cleanse mixture on some of these fasts, adding lemon juice, maple syrup and cayenne pepper to my water. This was recommended by my naturopathic physician, who supervised my first fasts. I also did a juice fast for 14 days. I would like to do that one again, but I find juicing brings on my brain fog pretty easily. That scares me off a little, even though I know it is really healing. Mentally, I just need to get there....successful fasting is probably 90% mental fortitude and 10% actual effort. Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: Fiona Parkinson Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 10:48 AM Subject: Re: Ann- your rash Patty, when you fast, is it a total fast ? For how long ? Fiona ----- Original Message ----- From: ~*Patty*~ Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:42 PM Subject: Re: Ann- your rash Ann, I just wanted to mention that I also had a rash on my breasts, but it did not appear until after explant, and even occurred for several years after explant, whenever I fasted. I have a picture of the rash on my breasts posted in our photos section. My naturopathic physician told me it was a sign that the toxins were being removed through the skin. It could be that this is what you are experiencing, I don't know, but if it is, then the last thing you want to do is put more stuff on your skin. You will want to wash it and keep it clean, and let the toxins come out. Putting creams directly on it and taking stuff to stop the release of toxins, (like benadryl to stop the reaction) will prevent healing from taking place. This is a very important concept in natural healing, and contrary to allopathic medicine. Allopathic medicine takes the approach that all these evidences of natural body processes need to be stopped, which is a bandaid approach, rather than a true cure for the root of the problem. I want to emphasize the fact that, in my experience (and I know others will agree with me who have been involved in the breast implant issue), natural healing methods are much more effective for us than drugs and other pharmaceuticals. The more toxic you are, the less you actually put in your body for healing. The goal is to get it all out and not put alot in except for nutritional building blocks. As I said, I don't know if this is your case or not. Did you say that the rash had to be gone before you could get explanted? You may want to stop any kind of detox therapy at all that you may be doing right now, as this will probably keep the rash present. I hope your doctor will be knowledgeable enough to know that the best thing to heal the rash would be to get rid of the very thing that may be causing it, the implants. It really is up to you as to how you want to deal with it. In my case, I did nothing but shower. My rash went away eventually after fasting, and I continued my fasting regimen at regular intervals until I could fast without a rash appearing. It was after that that my healing started going faster. I hope this helps! Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbie B. Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:30 AM Subject: Ann- your rash Ann, gosh I'm sorry. I thought you had been using the nystatin already and it was helping. I must have misunderstood. It should have not done that to you though. I have not heard of that. More than anything it should soothe the itching rash. That really suprises me. Did you put anything else on your rash that could have interacted with the nystatin? First thing I would do is wash your chest right away if you think it is worse. Wash with water and soap ( mild, or whatever you have) really well to remove all the cream & product. Let it air dry. I would wait to put anything else on. Hold the nystatin and wait. I would take an ibuprofen (advil) for discomfort take up to 3 over the counter for pain. (600mg) If your rash is burning you could apply some cool compresses on. Over like a t-shirt put crushed ice in large freezer bag & wrap thin towel around that and set on your skin or buy some of the chemical ice bags you break and they are activated (i think ace makes one) and set that on your chest to reduce swelling and pain. Never put that directly on your skin, make sure you have t-shirt or towel or something protecting your skin. Do not scratch your skin. It probably is difficult, but scratching will make it spread it sounds like. You could also take benadryl. That will make you sleepy but it will dry up the rash and help with itching. Since your skin is so tender I would not use the topical cream but take the benadryl capsules. You can take 1-2 like every 4-6 hrs. It should say on the box, but benadryl as long as you are not allergic to it is good for all kinds of rashes, poison oak etc. Thats prob. what I would do if you are extremely miserable. What all have you put on your skin? What all are you taking orally? Last but least, if you really need help fast right there you can call your doc's office. They will have answering service or somebody on call like a PA, Nurse, or whoever they use. They should call you back. If you can't get a hold of them try calling your local pharmacist at any drug store. Pharmacist are great resources. They know products bettter than Docs do. I've gotten really good advice from them. The pharmacist will prob. recommend something similar to what I said. You can give it a try though and see what they think. More than one opinion can't hurt. Deb nantynannie <nantynannie@...> wrote: Debbie,Remember I told you about the rash on my breasts? Well it was almost gone on Thursday nite Friday morning. I started using the Nystatin cream on Thursday nite. This morning it is HORRIBLE, the worst it has ever been. It is raised and it is spreading a little. Do you know if the cream will make it worse before it gets better? Or any other advice please...I took another Diflucan last night.ThanksAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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