Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 , what is the total amount of Armour you are on, and how long ago did you increase by 1 1/2 grains? Have you tested you Ferritin? And what was your last free T3 with range? And finally, how " mild " was the adrenal fatigue? Janie > > I have been having problems with severe fatigue again despite the increase in Armour by 1 1/2 grains. I cannot get on top of it. My stamina is down and I can't stay awake. My vertigo is worse than ever. I am taking 50 mg of Iodoral. I wish that I would have had the opportunity to have my detoxing of halogens measured but Dr. Brownstein said that the company only does so many and that at this time he could not test for it. I am wondering if I am going through some detoxing issues. I am taking high doses of magnesium/vit C/potassium per Dr. B's instruction so I should be supporting it well according to what I read in his book. I talked to he yesterday about my adrenal test and had hoped that this was the missing puzzle piece that I was just having adrenal issues. No such luck. They are mildly fatigued. > > So I e-mailed my ND and asked him what he thought. He told me to go off the Iodoral for 36 hours and see how I feel. He has started using Iodoral in his practice and is finding some people are reacting to it. I am a bit frustrated because my Tg just started coming down and if this is what is making it go down I want to continue. I will have my thyroid labs in 2 weeks ( just had them drawn Tuesday) so I will get those numbers then. I don't know what to think but this is getting old. I thought iodine was supposed to make you use the NTH more efficiently not make you feel more hypo. > > GRRRRRRRR................................... > > Thanks for letting me vent a bit. Guess I will report back on Sunday night as to whether it worked or not. > > B > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Magnesium will make you very tired. I take mine before bedtime. This the product that I take at night. It is only magnesium in powder form but has flavoring and is like a hot tea. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001WNF0E/qid=1146168409/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/0\ 02-1907654-6084000?%5Fencoding=UTF8 & v=glance & n=3760901 --- ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote: > I have been having problems with severe fatigue again despite the increase in > Armour by 1 1/2 grains. I cannot get on top of it. My stamina is down and I > can't stay awake. My vertigo is worse than ever. I am taking 50 mg of > Iodoral. I wish that I would have had the opportunity to have my detoxing of > halogens measured but Dr. Brownstein said that the company only does so many > and that at this time he could not test for it. I am wondering if I am going > through some detoxing issues. I am taking high doses of magnesium/vit > C/potassium per Dr. B's instruction so I should be supporting it well > according to what I read in his book. I talked to he yesterday about my > adrenal test and had hoped that this was the missing puzzle piece that I was > just having adrenal issues. No such luck. They are mildly fatigued. > > So I e-mailed my ND and asked him what he thought. He told me to go off the > Iodoral for 36 hours and see how I feel. He has started using Iodoral in his > practice and is finding some people are reacting to it. I am a bit > frustrated because my Tg just started coming down and if this is what is > making it go down I want to continue. I will have my thyroid labs in 2 weeks > ( just had them drawn Tuesday) so I will get those numbers then. I don't > know what to think but this is getting old. I thought iodine was supposed to > make you use the NTH more efficiently not make you feel more hypo. > > GRRRRRRRR................................... > > Thanks for letting me vent a bit. Guess I will report back on Sunday night > as to whether it worked or not. > > B > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 I have never found an adrenal test I believed in. My saliva test came back slightly fatigued, and I was shaking like Wile E. Coyote after he ate that bottle of earthquake pills. Luckily I (eventually) managed to arm-twist my doctor into trying Cortef anyway, and it worked almost immediately.So you might not rule out adrenal issues just yet. Did you try the pupil dilation test?-- prrladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote: I have been having problems with severe fatigue again despite the increase in Armour by 1 1/2 grains. I cannot get on top of it. My stamina is down and I can't stay awake. My vertigo is worse than ever. I am taking 50 mg of Iodoral. I wish that I would have had the opportunity to have my detoxing of halogens measured but Dr. Brownstein said that the company only does so many and that at this time he could not test for it. I am wondering if I am going through some detoxing issues. I am taking high doses of magnesium/vit C/potassium per Dr. B's instruction so I should be supporting it well according to what I read in his book. I talked to he yesterday about my adrenal test and had hoped that this was the missing puzzle piece that I was just having adrenal issues. No such luck. They are mildly fatigued. So I e-mailed my ND and asked him what he thought. He told me to go off the Iodoral for 36 hours and see how I feel. He has started using Iodoral in his practice and is finding some people are reacting to it. I am a bit frustrated because my Tg just started coming down and if this is what is making it go down I want to continue. I will have my thyroid labs in 2 weeks ( just had them drawn Tuesday) so I will get those numbers then. I don't know what to think but this is getting old. I thought iodine was supposed to make you use the NTH more efficiently not make you feel more hypo. GRRRRRRRR................................... Thanks for letting me vent a bit. Guess I will report back on Sunday night as to whether it worked or not. B New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 I have never found an adrenal test I believed in. My saliva test came back slightly fatigued, and I was shaking like Wile E. Coyote after he ate that bottle of earthquake pills. Luckily I (eventually) managed to arm-twist my doctor into trying Cortef anyway, and it worked almost immediately.So you might not rule out adrenal issues just yet. Did you try the pupil dilation test?-- prr================================================== Yes I did try that. Nothing happened. They stayed steady. My temps are not bouncing around anymore either. They were in huge swings but now they are staying steadily near 98.6 just varying about .4-.6 points. They used to swing by 1-2 degrees. What started all this was when I was in my Dr.'s office I told him of the vertigo. He had me lay down on the table and then took my BP and then I stood up and he took it again. Laying down it was 120 / 70 and then standing up it was 100 / 56. All my symptoms are classic adrenals. I will see what my ND has to say tomorrow. I will try the "no Iodoral" for three days and see what happens. I doubt it is the iodine. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Hi , When you say that Cortef worked immediately, what did it do for you exactly? Love, Pamela Ross <p_r_ross@...> wrote:I have never found an adrenal test I believed in. My saliva test came back slightly fatigued, and I was shaking like Wile E. Coyote after he ate that bottle of earthquake pills. Luckily I (eventually) managed to arm-twist my doctor into trying Cortef anyway, and it worked almost immediately.So you might not rule out adrenal issues just yet. Did you try the pupil dilation test?-- prr Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 I was waking up every night around 4AM in a panic, heart racing, shaking -- felt like a heart attack. I didn't get a complete night's sleep for months. It got to the point I didn't even want to go to sleep. DHEA made it worse, Licorice root sent my BP over 150/90, and adrenal extracts did nothing. I survived the summer of 04 on Xanax and some stuff called Phenibut that has some anxiolytic effect. Either the first or second night on Cortef (don't remember exactly) I was sleeping through the night and the panic attacks were gone.Adrenal support is tricky. No two people are the same.HTH! -- prrPamela <calblonde1@...> wrote: Hi , When you say that Cortef worked immediately, what did it do for you exactly? Love, Pamela Ross <p_r_ross@...> wrote:I have never found an adrenal test I believed in. My saliva test came back slightly fatigued, and I was shaking like Wile E. Coyote after he ate that bottle of earthquake pills. Luckily I (eventually) managed to arm-twist my doctor into trying Cortef anyway, and it worked almost immediately.So you might not rule out adrenal issues just yet. Did you try the pupil dilation test?-- prr Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 me too me too!!! within a week I had a sense of well being, got rid of anxiety, no more exhaustion. I have had every test you can think of--normal/high/ and then low on 24 hr urine. Even my Broda doc was reluctant to give me cortef until I told him I had already tried it. Tests are crap, except for 24 hr urine from AAL, and cortef is wonderful for sure. gracia Hi ,When you say that Cortef worked immediately, what did it do for you exactly?Love,Pamela Ross <p_r_ross@...> wrote: I have never found an adrenal test I believed in. My saliva test came back slightly fatigued, and I was shaking like Wile E. Coyote after he ate that bottle of earthquake pills. Luckily I (eventually) managed to arm-twist my doctor into trying Cortef anyway, and it worked almost immediately.So you might not rule out adrenal issues just yet. Did you try the pupil dilation test?-- prr Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.0/325 - Release Date: 4/26/2006 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.0/325 - Release Date: 4/26/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 my saliva test came back high/high/high/high and cortef was the solution. gracia I have never found an adrenal test I believed in. My saliva test came back slightly fatigued, and I was shaking like Wile E. Coyote after he ate that bottle of earthquake pills. Luckily I (eventually) managed to arm-twist my doctor into trying Cortef anyway, and it worked almost immediately.So you might not rule out adrenal issues just yet. Did you try the pupil dilation test?-- prr No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.0/325 - Release Date: 4/26/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 ---I think the ND is wrong. I don't think being on Iodoral is the easiest thing I have ever done--I get many strange hypo symptoms----but I keep getting better. I feel especially that my brain is detoxing---and that is weird. Also I really need cortisol. Gracia I have been having problems with severe fatigue again despite the increase in Armour by 1 1/2 grains. I cannot get on top of it. My stamina is down and I can't stay awake. My vertigo is worse than ever. I am taking 50 mg of Iodoral. I wish that I would have had the opportunity to have my detoxing of halogens measured but Dr. Brownstein said that the company only does so many and that at this time he could not test for it. I am wondering if I am going through some detoxing issues. I am taking high doses of magnesium/vit C/potassium per Dr. B's instruction so I should be supporting it well according to what I read in his book. I talked to he yesterday about my adrenal test and had hoped that this was the missing puzzle piece that I was just having adrenal issues. No such luck. They are mildly fatigued. So I e-mailed my ND and asked him what he thought. He told me to go off the Iodoral for 36 hours and see how I feel. He has started using Iodoral in his practice and is finding some people are reacting to it. I am a bit frustrated because my Tg just started coming down and if this is what is making it go down I want to continue. I will have my thyroid labs in 2 weeks ( just had them drawn Tuesday) so I will get those numbers then. I don't know what to think but this is getting old. I thought iodine was supposed to make you use the NTH more efficiently not make you feel more hypo. GRRRRRRRR................................... Thanks for letting me vent a bit. Guess I will report back on Sunday night as to whether it worked or not. B No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.0/325 - Release Date: 4/26/2006 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.0/325 - Release Date: 4/26/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 I disagree--adrenal support is easy. Always take cortef and DHEA together. and don't take too little cortef. gracia Adrenal support is tricky. No two people are the same.HTH! -- prr No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.0/325 - Release Date: 4/26/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 HI , This resonates with me because I wake at 4 very often and am too "charged" to go back to sleep. I don't have the panic attack but perhaps a milder version. I don't understand all this adrenal stuff but suspect that my adrenals get stressed when I have a long period of stress. There has been a lot going on in my life for a long time now although things are better now. I am wondering how best to help my adrenals recover? I did take adrenal extracts a couple of months back and they made me much more hyper. Any advice? I like the idea of sleeping better! AnnOn 28-Apr-06, at 12:44 AM, Ross wrote: I was waking up every night around 4AM in a panic, heart racing, shaking -- felt like a heart attack. I didn't get a complete night's sleep for months. It got to the point I didn't even want to go to sleep. DHEA made it worse, Licorice root sent my BP over 150/90, and adrenal extracts did nothing. I survived the summer of 04 on Xanax and some stuff called Phenibut that has some anxiolytic effect. Either the first or second night on Cortef (don't remember exactly) I was sleeping through the night and the panic attacks were gone.Adrenal support is tricky. No two people are the same.HTH! -- prrPamela <calblonde1@...> wrote: Hi , When you say that Cortef worked immediately, what did it do for you exactly? Love, Pamela Ross <p_r_ross@...> wrote:I have never found an adrenal test I believed in. My saliva test came back slightly fatigued, and I was shaking like Wile E. Coyote after he ate that bottle of earthquake pills. Luckily I (eventually) managed to arm-twist my doctor into trying Cortef anyway, and it worked almost immediately.So you might not rule out adrenal issues just yet. Did you try the pupil dilation test?-- prr Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Not easy for me, I am sure. Cortef and DHEA would need a prescription and I think there is no way I could convince a doc here in Ontario to give me one as I have had breast cancer. AnnOn 28-Apr-06, at 1:54 AM, Gracia wrote:  I disagree--adrenal support is easy. Always take cortef and DHEA together. and don't take too little cortef. gracia  Adrenal support is tricky. No two people are the same.HTH! -- prr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Hi Gracia, What is enough cortef? I'm taking 5 mg first thing in the morning. Love, PamealGracia <circe@...> wrote: I disagree--adrenal support is easy. Always take cortef and DHEA together. and don't take too little cortef. gracia Adrenal support is tricky. No two people are the same.HTH! -- prr New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Definately agree with , Gracia. For me it has been very tricky. Glad it was easy for you though. Sharon > > > I disagree--adrenal support is easy. Always take cortef and DHEA together. and don't take too little cortef. > gracia > > > Adrenal support is tricky. No two people are the same. > > HTH! -- prr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 why Ann? DHEA has been linked to breast cancer prevention actually. You can order from the US--International Pharmacy. I think the link from http://www.geocities.com/thyroide (I think) You might be interested to know that big pharma is going to market a drug called Prasterone, cost $100-150/month. This drug reduces many problems associated with insulin resistance, improves bone mineral density, alleviates depression, helps the immune system and lowers cancer risk. Maybe your doc will Rx it for you. HOWEVER IT IS AVAILABLE NOW AS DHEA and it is very cheap, about $8/mo. GraciaNot easy for me, I am sure. Cortef and DHEA would need a prescription and I think there is no way I could convince a doc here in Ontario to give me one as I have had breast cancer. Ann On 28-Apr-06, at 1:54 AM, Gracia wrote: I disagree--adrenal support is easy. Always take cortef and DHEA together. and don't take too little cortef. gracia Adrenal support is tricky. No two people are the same.HTH! -- prr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 adrenal extracts made you hyper b/c they were not strong enough. They woke up your adrenals, sort of tickled them. GraciaHI , This resonates with me because I wake at 4 very often and am too "charged" to go back to sleep. I don't have the panic attack but perhaps a milder version. I don't understand all this adrenal stuff but suspect that my adrenals get stressed when I have a long period of stress. There has been a lot going on in my life for a long time now although things are better now. I am wondering how best to help my adrenals recover? I did take adrenal extracts a couple of months back and they made me much more hyper. Any advice? I like the idea of sleeping better! Ann No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/326 - Release Date: 4/27/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 First you take cortef 5mg 4X a day. Then you add DHEA. This works for everyone except the occasional person who needs 7.5mg 4X a day. That's not hard. graciaDefinately agree with , Gracia. For me it has been very tricky. Glad it was easy for you though.Sharon>> > I disagree--adrenal support is easy. Always take cortef and DHEA together. and don't take too little cortef.> gracia> > > Adrenal support is tricky. No two people are the same.> > HTH! -- prr No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/326 - Release Date: 4/27/2006 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/326 - Release Date: 4/27/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 recommended is 5mg 4X a day, b/c cortef only stays in the blood 3-4 hrs. You will feel so much better on enough. gracia Hi Gracia,What is enough cortef? I'm taking 5 mg first thing in the morning.Love,Pameal No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/326 - Release Date: 4/27/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Some people need much less. Some people take 2.5 4X day. Peoples needs vary a lot. But I'm glad it was not complicated for you. Irene At 08:15 AM 4/28/2006, you wrote: First you take cortef 5mg 4X a day. Then you add DHEA. This works for everyone except the occasional person who needs 7.5mg 4X a day. That's not hard. gracia Definately agree with , Gracia. For me it has been very tricky. Glad it was easy for you though. Sharon > > > I disagree--adrenal support is easy. Always take cortef and DHEA together. and don't take too little cortef. > gracia > > > Adrenal support is tricky. No two people are the same. > > HTH! -- prr No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/326 - Release Date: 4/27/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 According to Dr. MckJefferies, in The Safe Uses of Cortisol, he recommends starting at 10 mg/day and working up until you find the correct dosage. He didn't use one standard dosage. Irene At 09:46 AM 4/28/2006, you wrote: well I have never encountered a person who needs less---really. If a person needs less then maybe OTC stuff would work for them. Gracia Some people need much less. Some people take 2.5 4X day. Peoples needs vary a lot. But I'm glad it was not complicated for you. Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Health Canada does not allow DHEA to be imported into Canada. I'll look into pros and cons of it however. Thanks. AnnOn 28-Apr-06, at 11:08 AM, Gracia wrote:  why Ann?  DHEA has been linked to breast cancer prevention actually.  You can order from the US--International Pharmacy. I think the link from http://www.geocities.com/thyroide (I think) You might be interested to know that big pharma is going to market a drug called Prasterone, cost $100-150/month. This drug reduces many problems associated with insulin resistance, improves bone mineral density, alleviates depression, helps the immune system and lowers cancer risk. Maybe your doc will Rx it for you.  HOWEVER IT IS AVAILABLE NOW AS DHEA and it is very cheap, about $8/mo. GraciaNot easy for me, I am sure. Cortef and DHEA would need a prescription and I think there is no way I could convince a doc here in Ontario to give me one as I have had breast cancer. Ann On 28-Apr-06, at 1:54 AM, Gracia wrote:  I disagree--adrenal support is easy. Always take cortef and DHEA together. and don't take too little cortef. gracia  Adrenal support is tricky. No two people are the same.HTH! -- prr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 well I have never encountered a person who needs less---really. If a person needs less then maybe OTC stuff would work for them. GraciaSome people need much less. Some people take 2.5 4X day. Peoples needs vary a lot. But I'm glad it was not complicated for you.Irene No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/326 - Release Date: 4/27/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 ---I think the ND is wrong. I don't think being on Iodoral is the easiest thing I have ever done--I get many strange hypo symptoms----but I keep getting better. I feel especially that my brain is detoxing---and that is weird. Also I really need cortisol. Gracia============================================ Well I decided not to stop the Iodoral. It seems to be the only thing killing the thyroid cancer and bringing my Tg down so that is more important than feeling tired right now. We talked some more today and he reviewed both my 24 Hr Adrenal Urine test and my Glucose/Insulin test and believes that my issues stem from poor conversion in my liver and insulin resistance. He is reviewing the labs in more detail later on today and will let me know what we will do in the next few days. I bought some black strap molasses and am going to be more conscious about adding it in to try to boost my iron a bit. So we will see how I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 That's not necessarily true. My DHEA is within normal limits (on the high end of normal), but my cortisol is pathetically (barely registering) low. I take Iscort only, and no DHEA. Best, Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.comCurly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for thepurpose of storing dead batteries.~ I disagree--adrenal support is easy. Always take cortef and DHEA together. and don't take too little cortef. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 I find that when the stress is over is when adrenal fatigue hits. Most adrenal extracts contain the whole adrenal (medulla and cortex), so they will contain some adrenaline, and many people have noted that they make them jittery. IsoCort is the only extract I know with only the cortex in it. Having said that, IsoCort helps some people but did nothing for me. It's OTC, available online. I think vitamin C and, of course, iodine are considered nutritional support for adrenals. Sea salt helps if aldosterone production is weak. Some people use licorice root, but that made my BP skyrocket. DHEA is a popular adrenal support, as is Pregnenolone. You might just have to try a few things. HTH! -- prrAnn <noliro@...> wrote:HI , This resonates with me because I wake at 4 very often and am too "charged" to go back to sleep. I don't have the panic attack but perhaps a milder version. I don't understand all this adrenal stuff but suspect that my adrenals get stressed when I have a long period of stress. There has been a lot going on in my life for a long time now although things are better now. I am wondering how best to help my adrenals recover? I did take adrenal extracts a couple of months back and they made me much more hyper. Any advice? I like the idea of sleeping better! AnnOn 28-Apr-06, at 12:44 AM, Ross wrote: I was waking up every night around 4AM in a panic, heart racing, shaking -- felt like a heart attack. I didn't get a complete night's sleep for months. It got to the point I didn't even want to go to sleep. DHEA made it worse, Licorice root sent my BP over 150/90, and adrenal extracts did nothing. I survived the summer of 04 on Xanax and some stuff called Phenibut that has some anxiolytic effect. Either the first or second night on Cortef (don't remember exactly) I was sleeping through the night and the panic attacks were gone.Adrenal support is tricky. No two people are the same.HTH! -- prrPamela <calblonde1@...> wrote: Hi , When you say that Cortef worked immediately, what did it do for you exactly? Love, Pamela Ross <p_r_ross@...> wrote:I have never found an adrenal test I believed in. My saliva test came back slightly fatigued, and I was shaking like Wile E. Coyote after he ate that bottle of earthquake pills. Luckily I (eventually) managed to arm-twist my doctor into trying Cortef anyway, and it worked almost immediately.So you might not rule out adrenal issues just yet. Did you try the pupil dilation test?-- prr Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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