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Your symptoms sound so much like the rest of ours. I'm amazed that

you put the two together so quickly or maybe I'm so mad at myself for

not. I went for 4 years going to doctor after doctor having symptom

after symptom and getting nowhere. I never once dreamed it could be

my " safe " saline implants that were making me sick. I just had them

out in December 03. I'm on the road to healing. I hope you don't

wait as long as I did.

Pam

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> I am a 35 year old mother of three, who had smooth saline implants

in

> Dec. '03. Everything went well, except at about 4 weeks post-op I

> had soreness and aching in both of my ankles and achilles tendons,

> which one week later began swelling as well. At first I thought I

> had damaged my tendons from a lot of walking in a pair of shoes

that

> I normally don't wear. My doctor said I really irritated these

> tendons and just try to rest and stay off my feet.

> Well now it has been a total of 4 weeks with this pain which has

> spread to my knee joints and right elbow. My hands are often very

> cold and they feel very sluggish as I type this.

> Last night I had severe pain in my knees and my joints are soooo

> stiff in the mornings!

> Tomorrow I am going back to the doctor and will insist on an ANA

> blood test to find out if this is my body's reaction to these

> implants. I have a healthy history and have never had problems

like

> this before.

> Does anyone have any suggestions?

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Hi - you are definitely on the right site to do "research" through reading of these messages and articles...yes, it could be a reaction to your implants causing your joint pain. I received my implants in Feb. 2002, it was shortly after that when I began noticing a lot of knee pain (my first symptom). During that summer, I went to PT to see if it would help. It didn't help much, but taking Glucosomine Sulfate does help with the joint pain.

I also noticed the "brain fog" and concentration problems right away, and very annoying was numbness in my hands and head. These symptoms would come and go, and only when they became more severe (2 months ago) did I seek out a Doctor and info. on the net about the implant/auto-immune disease connection. Once I learned symptoms of auto-immunity, I realized that I had many of those as well...dry eyes, mouth, ringing in the ears, sores in nose and mouth, tight feeling in throat, many symptoms mimicing that of low thyroid (like the cold hands)...etc. My advice to you would be to go ahead and get the ANA test done...however, don't rely too much on the result right now. Learn as much as you can about the link between implants & resulting problems and watch for those. Also look into your family history for those who may have had auto-immune diseases (there is often a genetic predisposition to auto-immunity and implants could trigger those

symptoms). A good book is by Dr. Edelson, "What Your Doctor won't tell you about Auto-Immune Disease"....there are other good resources at & Noble or other bookstores as well. Hang in there, don't get overly worried about the implant connection just yet....take some time to be informed and listen to what your body is telling you. Others on this site will provide good advice as well...don't hesitate to keep asking questions!

Blessings,

Sharonpianoplayer1203 <pianoplayer1203@...> wrote:

I am a 35 year old mother of three, who had smooth saline implants in Dec. '03. Everything went well, except at about 4 weeks post-op I had soreness and aching in both of my ankles and achilles tendons, which one week later began swelling as well. At first I thought I had damaged my tendons from a lot of walking in a pair of shoes that I normally don't wear. My doctor said I really irritated these tendons and just try to rest and stay off my feet. Well now it has been a total of 4 weeks with this pain which has spread to my knee joints and right elbow. My hands are often very cold and they feel very sluggish as I type this.Last night I had severe pain in my knees and my joints are soooo stiff in the mornings! Tomorrow I am going back to the doctor and will insist on an ANA blood test to find

out if this is my body's reaction to these implants. I have a healthy history and have never had problems like this before. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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Hello there. You are smart to put the whole 'implant connection'

together. Unfortuanatly there are not too many Dr.s out there who

will agree with you that the implants are making you ill. I wish I

would have gotten mine out when I had severe asthma and

other 'strange' syptoms a few weeks after I got the implants, and I

would probably be alot better healthwise. BUT my symptoms would come

and go. You are definatley reacting to the implants. As you read

here, you will find the symptoms everyone has are similar(including

the joint/muscle pain). I would do the research, then remove them so

that your body has a better chance of healing. You have come to the

right place for information. Hope I can help you out. I hope you

feel better..dimonds68 P.S..I had Smooth Salines also. Put in 1998.

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what a crying shame! I can't beleave you reacted so quickly. Honey, if you reacted this quickly can you imagine what will happen if you keep them in. As has been stated on this website before: We can recover from a little poison but a lot, we have less chance of a full recovery. I beleave its your implants. What kind of pain spreads like that. I got fibromyalgia, look that up and see if that is what you're having, thats the most common ailment, but it invovles so much. Please, save yourself and get them out while you may be able to even get a reduced fee. Insurances will pay when you get these problems. You know silicones are off market accept for cancer victims, but its the silicone lining that you're reacting to. All implants have silicone lining. Even if it isn't your implants ( you've got symptoms that will only be agrevated by implants) You've come to the right place. I

know I sound urgent. I just don't want, to happen to you what happened to me. You're lucky you found this place so soon. go on your gut instinct, you've never been sick befroe. Its a wonder your fingers aren't aching from the typing. Hey, we do recover though. Eveyone here has improved after detox and removal. We love each other here and are very urgnet with our message because many of us have lots our livelihood to implants. Many of us will not totally ever get better. We all have the same symptoms and we share each others pain and stories of denying PS to tell us the truth and the rest of the medical profession not to know anything aobut the correlation of B.I. to Fibromyalgia symptoms (Autoimmune disorders). Everyone is denying it or ignorant of it. My point is I've seen many new comers come to this website never hearing of the symptoms before, never reading anyone else's post, come up with the exact same

symtpoms. Now tell me there is no correlation. Its a sad truth and we've been exploited. We will help you, you've come to the right place. I always feel bad when I have to write an initial message like this one. Because the women is usually in shock and devastated. That's how I was. But, you'll get over that and you'll forge ahead. there is a silver lining and we're here to show it to you. Love and Hugs, Sharon <northwoods7380@...> wrote:

Hi - you are definitely on the right site to do "research" through reading of these messages and articles...yes, it could be a reaction to your implants causing your joint pain. I received my implants in Feb. 2002, it was shortly after that when I began noticing a lot of knee pain (my first symptom). During that summer, I went to PT to see if it would help. It didn't help much, but taking Glucosomine Sulfate does help with the joint pain.

I also noticed the "brain fog" and concentration problems right away, and very annoying was numbness in my hands and head. These symptoms would come and go, and only when they became more severe (2 months ago) did I seek out a Doctor and info. on the net about the implant/auto-immune disease connection. Once I learned symptoms of auto-immunity, I realized that I had many of those as well...dry eyes, mouth, ringing in the ears, sores in nose and mouth, tight feeling in throat, many symptoms mimicing that of low thyroid (like the cold hands)...etc. My advice to you would be to go ahead and get the ANA test done...however, don't rely too much on the result right now. Learn as much as you can about the link between implants & resulting problems and watch for those. Also look into your family history for those who may have had auto-immune diseases (there is often a genetic predisposition to auto-immunity and implants could trigger those

symptoms). A good book is by Dr. Edelson, "What Your Doctor won't tell you about Auto-Immune Disease"....there are other good resources at & Noble or other bookstores as well. Hang in there, don't get overly worried about the implant connection just yet....take some time to be informed and listen to what your body is telling you. Others on this site will provide good advice as well...don't hesitate to keep asking questions!

Blessings,

Sharonpianoplayer1203 <pianoplayer1203@...> wrote:

I am a 35 year old mother of three, who had smooth saline implants in Dec. '03. Everything went well, except at about 4 weeks post-op I had soreness and aching in both of my ankles and achilles tendons, which one week later began swelling as well. At first I thought I had damaged my tendons from a lot of walking in a pair of shoes that I normally don't wear. My doctor said I really irritated these tendons and just try to rest and stay off my feet. Well now it has been a total of 4 weeks with this pain which has spread to my knee joints and right elbow. My hands are often very cold and they feel very sluggish as I type this.Last night I had severe pain in my knees and my joints are soooo stiff in the mornings! Tomorrow I am going back to the doctor and will insist on an ANA blood test to find

out if this is my body's reaction to these implants. I have a healthy history and have never had problems like this before. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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I also had severe joint pain at the age of 26, about 7 years into having my "safe" smooth saline implants. Hands and feet terrible, esp in the morning. Typing was terrible! After some time, I was found to have thyroid disease, and Rheumatoid Arthritis. I thought that was crazy for someone as healthy and young as I was. I decided to get them out. I saved my life. I got my disgusting implants removed, and have since enjoyed life with no more joint pain or stiffness in my hands and feet. My thyroid disease is much better, could go into remission, and the RA? All the ana's and inflammatory counts have went away. No more Ra, and other debilitating conditions. Your body is showing signs of reacting, triggered by the implants, and your at a high risk of auto immunity, listen close. Before other things follow, as they did with me. Then it gets harder to get better. I would get them removed. We all have the same symptoms, and one thing in common-Implants. Read our stories and decided for yourself. Welcome, you have come to the right place.

---- Original Message -----

From: Sharon

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:40 PM

Subject: Re: joint pain and swelling

Hi - you are definitely on the right site to do "research" through reading of these messages and articles...yes, it could be a reaction to your implants causing your joint pain. I received my implants in Feb. 2002, it was shortly after that when I began noticing a lot of knee pain (my first symptom). During that summer, I went to PT to see if it would help. It didn't help much, but taking Glucosomine Sulfate does help with the joint pain.

I also noticed the "brain fog" and concentration problems right away, and very annoying was numbness in my hands and head. These symptoms would come and go, and only when they became more severe (2 months ago) did I seek out a Doctor and info. on the net about the implant/auto-immune disease connection. Once I learned symptoms of auto-immunity, I realized that I had many of those as well...dry eyes, mouth, ringing in the ears, sores in nose and mouth, tight feeling in throat, many symptoms mimicing that of low thyroid (like the cold hands)...etc. My advice to you would be to go ahead and get the ANA test done...however, don't rely too much on the result right now. Learn as much as you can about the link between implants & resulting problems and watch for those. Also look into your family history for those who may have had auto-immune diseases (there is often a genetic predisposition to auto-immunity and implants could trigger those symptoms). A good book is by Dr. Edelson, "What Your Doctor won't tell you about Auto-Immune Disease"....there are other good resources at & Noble or other bookstores as well. Hang in there, don't get overly worried about the implant connection just yet....take some time to be informed and listen to what your body is telling you. Others on this site will provide good advice as well...don't hesitate to keep asking questions!

Blessings,

Sharonpianoplayer1203 <pianoplayer1203@...> wrote:

I am a 35 year old mother of three, who had smooth saline implants in Dec. '03. Everything went well, except at about 4 weeks post-op I had soreness and aching in both of my ankles and achilles tendons, which one week later began swelling as well. At first I thought I had damaged my tendons from a lot of walking in a pair of shoes that I normally don't wear. My doctor said I really irritated these tendons and just try to rest and stay off my feet. Well now it has been a total of 4 weeks with this pain which has spread to my knee joints and right elbow. My hands are often very cold and they feel very sluggish as I type this.Last night I had severe pain in my knees and my joints are soooo stiff in the mornings! Tomorrow I am going back to the doctor and will insist on an ANA blood test to find out if this is my body's reaction to these implants. I have a healthy history and have never had problems like this before. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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The only suggestion I can offer is to have the implants removed....your body is giving you signals! I am quite certain that your doctor will tell you that the implants don't have a thing to do with your reaction, but based on the testimony of thousands of other victims, it would be quite evident to us that they do. Your tests may come out completely normal, but don't let that deceive you. Just keep watching your health, and if you do not experience any improvements, and in fact, keep feeling sluggish and ill, you will probably need to consider a proper explant to get your health back. It can be done! It just takes a little work and detox effort, along with changes to a healthy lifestyle. Wishing you the very best.

Patty

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From: pianoplayer1203

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 2:58 PM

Subject: joint pain and swelling

I am a 35 year old mother of three, who had smooth saline implants in Dec. '03. Everything went well, except at about 4 weeks post-op I had soreness and aching in both of my ankles and achilles tendons, which one week later began swelling as well. At first I thought I had damaged my tendons from a lot of walking in a pair of shoes that I normally don't wear. My doctor said I really irritated these tendons and just try to rest and stay off my feet. Well now it has been a total of 4 weeks with this pain which has spread to my knee joints and right elbow. My hands are often very cold and they feel very sluggish as I type this.Last night I had severe pain in my knees and my joints are soooo stiff in the mornings! Tomorrow I am going back to the doctor and will insist on an ANA blood test to find out if this is my body's reaction to these implants. I have a healthy history and have never had problems like this before. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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Jerome...I'm glad you are finding things that work for you. I like your

attitude about making things happen. I agree with you there. You have to

make your world better rather than wait for it to get better. I don't

have much time for chatting these days. If I did that...I'd never get to

answer my friends on here or play with my beautiful daughter but I enjoy

reading your posts. They are always upbeat. It is interesting to read

about what they call it in your country. Do you know why they call it

the sickness of the king? And I don't know of a medicine in this country

called Progout... The belief in the USA is that Glucosimine is good for

osteo arthritis but does not do much for PA. But if you feel it helps

you then it can't hurt you so I'd take it. I do juices too...I buy them

from a local juice stand but I want my own juicer machine someday. It

makes me feel great too. Thanks for sharing and your english is

acceptable! -Betz

>

> Hello from jerome Australia ( sorry my english)

> I hear that many suffering from swelling and pain join , last week i

> talking about " progaut " but i don't have any eco from this topic.

> I try again , my doctor ( that i have a lot of estime and gratitud

> for what done for me in the last few years i been affect from PA)is

> been study about the problem of the join and swelling hands .....,

> one cure that i find ver very good is the progout , this medicine (

> in Australia , i don't know what call in other country ) is used for

> peoples got " gout " , and help to eliminade acid uric and pain from

> that sicness that lot people call the " sikcness of the King " .

> This produit is very good to eliminade the acid building in the join

> and that give that sharp pain nigth time. I hear about peoples used

> Glucosomine and i agree is very good ,i take morning and nigth with

> capsule of fish oil . One more help is done from drink a lot of

> water and not much alcool. From the last months i been start have

> each morning a juice of vegetable and this to make me feel much

> better.

> I can tell you that in the last year with all this change i been

> improuving fisicaly a lot , i sleep better and i'm enjoie to go out

> and walk .

> To me got two types of peoples , one lock think uppen the other

> make think uppen.............we are all in the same boat ...just get

> up and figth this f.....PA

> Ciao jerome

> ps.i liked have chat person to person for exchange of

> opinion ,anybady liked contact me i am in chat , my cal name

> is " jeromecalda "

>

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