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Abbe,

You could just as easily get the test from Dr. Flechas' lab and you would

get the free consult afterward to interpret for you as well as advise.

We have a web page for info on the loading test:

_www.breastcancerchoices.org/loading_

(http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/loading)

Good luck!

Lynne

In a message dated 8/7/2006 10:48:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

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My question is whether anyone here has used the Iodine

Loading Test put out by VRS and if you did; did you

also interpret the results on your own?

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Dear Abbe,

Go to: _www.breastcancerchoices.org/loading_

(http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/loading) . All the lab contact information

is there including their 800

phone number. Tell them you don't have a doctor to interpret the test and you

want the consult with Dr. Flechas.

Email me privately if you can't reach them or have any questions.

Lynne

In a message dated 8/7/2006 12:08:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

abbe_online@... writes:

Thanks Lynne and for responses on this.

I was on the Flechas' site looking for a source for

the loading test and could not find a link there to

testing. So, I came back here to group links section

and that is where I found the VRS kit information.

I would like to have Dr. Flechas consult with the test

but how do I access test information for that?

Abbe

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I am pretty sure that is the one that Zoe did. Her results are posted in the

files somewhere. They offer a free consult with Dr. Flechas as part of the kit.

B.

Loading Test

Just arriving at the point where I am thinking about

doing the Iodine Loading Test, but I want to do it on

my own.

I am sorry if this has been discussed before and I

missed it.

My question is whether anyone here has used the Iodine

Loading Test put out by VRS and if you did; did you

also interpret the results on your own?

Please and thank you,

Abbe

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Thanks Lynne and for responses on this.

I was on the Flechas' site looking for a source for

the loading test and could not find a link there to

testing. So, I came back here to group links section

and that is where I found the VRS kit information.

I would like to have Dr. Flechas consult with the test

but how do I access test information for that?

Abbe

--- Lynne234923@... wrote:

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> Abbe,

>

> You could just as easily get the test from Dr.

> Flechas' lab and you would

> get the free consult afterward to interpret for you

> as well as advise.

>

> We have a web page for info on the loading test:

> _www.breastcancerchoices.org/loading_

> (http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/loading)

>

> Good luck!

>

> Lynne

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Thanks Zoe,

Can you tell me what the spot test is?

You don't need the spot test,

> but if you are curious and have the money, you can

> order it, too.

Thank you,

Abbe

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well I wish I could test myself but I don't know where the $$$ is coming from these days. Soon to be winter in Maine, and I need wood and kerosene for my Monitor :((

Brownstein said it took him 4 years to get enough iodine! All I can do is try to decrease and see how that goes. In the past I have felt pretty bad when I tried.

I just went to a sad funeral for my friend's son who died from cystic fibrosis at age 31. At the funeral I saw another friend's son, only 34, with severe Parkinsons. I have been wondering if iodine would have any effect on these illnesses.

Gracia

I am just finishing up my month of dosing iodine at 100mg. I took a break while traveling. I amnot sure what another iodine loading test would accomplish because I would not now trust theresults at this point.I wonder if Flechas and Abraham know how bad these odd test results are looking to this group? The urinalysis looks very inaccurate and unreliable. If Gracia isn't brimming with iodine afterall this time when she checks... we'll know something is up. If I decide to test, I wonder how I can get it double or triple checked without it costinghundreds of dollars.__________________________________________________

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Lori

You need to

take four and get them from your doctor if you can. The FFP lab is very busy—too

busy I think. Read your instructions again. I would be happy to send you four

by mail if you need them. However, it will take some time in the rush mail and

I live in Canada.

If you want them, email me privately with your address.

Kallie

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From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Lori Goldstein

Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006

12:55 PM

iodine

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Good afternoon,

My doctor ordered the Iodine Loading test for me a while ago. I read the

instructions but apparently misread them. I took the pills 24 hours BEFORE the

time I intended to actually start

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Your offer is so nice. Thank you. I understand that I need to take four, but

what I need to know is if I can just get the four from my doctor or do I need to

use the four specifically that they will one of these decades send to me.

On Wednesday, December 13, 2006, at 12:12PM, " Kallie "

<4optimallife@...> wrote:

>Lori

>

>

>

>You need to take four and get them from your doctor if you can. The FFP lab

>is very busy?too busy I think. Read your instructions again. I would be

>happy to send you four by mail if you need them. However, it will take some

>time in the rush mail and I live in Canada. If you want them, email me

>privately with your address.

>

>

>

>Kallie

>

>

>

>Kallie , RN

>

>HYPERLINK " http://www.4optimallife.com " www.4optimallife.com

>

>Magnetic sleep pads, anti-oxidant alkalizing water filters, parasite zappers

>and natural health information

>

> _____

>

>From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of

>Lori Goldstein

>Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 12:55 PM

>iodine

>Subject: Loading Test

>

>

>

>Good afternoon,

>

>My doctor ordered the Iodine Loading test for me a while ago. I read the

>instructions but apparently misread them. I took the pills 24 hours BEFORE

>the time I intended to actually start

>

>

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Conniving...I like that, but I'm sure I threw away the packet. Figures, the one

time I throw something away I shouldn't have!!!

On Wednesday, December 13, 2006, at 12:14PM, " mylilsuzyqs "

<mylilsuzyqs@...> wrote:

>I'd keep on calling the lab until you get a response. If you already

>paid for 4 more iodoral tabs, you can also call your credit card

>company and dispute the charges. It all sounds so frustrating to me

>when it should be plain and simple. Keep us posted.

>

>hmmmm, do you still have the pkg from the previous Iodoral pills that

>has the number on it? Maybe just get the pills from your dr and put

>the number from the pkg in place of the ones you already took. Shhhhh!

>

>

>Sue

>

>

>>

>> Good afternoon,

>>

>> My doctor ordered the Iodine Loading test for me a while ago. I

>read the instructions but apparently misread them. I took the pills

>24 hours BEFORE the time I intended to actually start collecting. I

>called the lab and ordered another four pills; they took my credit

>card over the phone. That was more than a month ago and still I have

>not received the pills. As many of you know it is nearly impossible

>to get through to the lab. My doctor said he has a bottle of the

>pills at home and he'd be glad to give me four. However, I believe

>the instructions require the number on the packet of pills to be

>included on the form that is sent back with the specimens.

>>

>> How important is that number and is there any getting around it? Am

>I at the mercy of that lab or does anyone here have any suggestions.

>>

>> Thank you,

>>

>> Lori

>>

>

>

>

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Then number is only used if there is an issue that the test doesn't come out as they intend and then there may be a batch issue.

Loading Test>> >>Good afternoon,>>My doctor ordered the Iodine Loading test for me a while ago. I read the>instructions but apparently misread them. I took the pills 24 hours BEFORE>the time I intended to actually start >>>-->No virus found in this incoming message.>Checked by AVG Free Edition.>Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/585 - Release Date: 12/13/2006>11:49 AM>>>>-- >No virus found in this outgoing message.>Checked by AVG Free Edition.>Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/585 - Release Date: 12/13/2006>11:49 AM> >

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I'll fax my doctor right now and ask about a lot number. Thanks!

On Wednesday, December 13, 2006, at 12:23PM, " ladybugsandbees "

<ladybugsandbees@...> wrote:

>It was a lot number. I would say that if there is a lot number on the bottle

(can't remember if mine has one) then just put that number on the sheet.

>

>

>

> Loading Test

>

>

> Good afternoon,

>

> My doctor ordered the Iodine Loading test for me a while ago. I read the

instructions but apparently misread them. I took the pills 24 hours BEFORE the

time I intended to actually start collecting. I called the lab and ordered

another four pills; they took my credit card over the phone. That was more than

a month ago and still I have not received the pills. As many of you know it is

nearly impossible to get through to the lab. My doctor said he has a bottle of

the pills at home and he'd be glad to give me four. However, I believe the

instructions require the number on the packet of pills to be included on the

form that is sent back with the specimens.

>

> How important is that number and is there any getting around it? Am I at the

mercy of that lab or does anyone here have any suggestions.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Lori

>

>

>

>

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I am guessing it is on the bottle because they would need to know if a problem arose from someone taking the product. I am at the library now or I would go look. :)

Loading Test>>> Good afternoon,>> My doctor ordered the Iodine Loading test for me a while ago. I read the instructions but apparently misread them. I took the pills 24 hours BEFORE the time I intended to actually start collecting. I called the lab and ordered another four pills; they took my credit card over the phone. That was more than a month ago and still I have not received the pills. As many of you know it is nearly impossible to get through to the lab. My doctor said he has a bottle of the pills at home and he'd be glad to give me four. However, I believe the instructions require the number on the packet of pills to be included on the form that is sent back with the specimens. >> How important is that number and is there any getting around it? Am I at the mercy of that lab or does anyone here have any suggestions.>> Thank you,>> Lori>>>>

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The lot # is on the bottom of the bottle.LinnOn Dec 13, 2006, at 12:35 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote:I am guessing it is on the bottle because they would need to know if a problem arose from someone taking the product.  I am at the library now or I would go look.  :) 

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The lab want the lot number only if there is any adverse reaction. You

can check the paperwork but I think the lot number is only written on the

adverse reaction reporting page. On the other hand I have never had a

problem reaching the lab. Even as late as 3 weeks ago. I wonder if they

are closed for the holiday or something. I am not sure you want to send a

sample unless you know there is someone to receive it.

Irene

At 10:17 AM 12/13/2006, you wrote:

Your offer is so nice. Thank

you. I understand that I need to take four, but what I need to know is if

I can just get the four from my doctor or do I need to use the four

specifically that they will one of these decades send to me.

On Wednesday, December 13, 2006, at 12:12PM, " Kallie "

<4optimallife@...>

wrote:

>Lori

>

>

>

>You need to take four and get them from your doctor if you can. The

FFP lab

>is very busy?too busy I think. Read your instructions again. I would

be

>happy to send you four by mail if you need them. However, it will

take some

>time in the rush mail and I live in Canada. If you want them, email

me

>privately with your address.

>

>

>

>Kallie

>

>

>

>Kallie , RN

>

>HYPERLINK

" http://www.4optimallife.com " www.4optimallife.com

>

>Magnetic sleep pads, anti-oxidant alkalizing water filters, parasite

zappers

>and natural health information

>

> _____

>

>From:

iodine

[mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of

>Lori Goldstein

>Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 12:55 PM

>iodine

>Subject: Loading Test

>

>

>

>Good afternoon,

>

>My doctor ordered the Iodine Loading test for me a while ago. I read the

>instructions but apparently misread them. I took the pills 24 hours BEFORE

>the time I intended to actually start

>

>

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The lab is

open. FFP labs is very busy and short-staffed at this time. They are

not answering their phone after 12 noon and are very slow with call backs.

Kallie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Irene.M@...

Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006

2:07 PM

iodine

Subject: RE: Loading Test

The lab want the lot number only if there is any

adverse reaction. You can check the paperwork but I think the lot number is

only written on the adverse reaction reporting page. On the other hand I have

never had a problem reaching the lab. Even as late as 3 weeks ago. I wonder if

they are closed for the holiday or something. I am not sure you want to send a

sample unless you know there is someone to receive it.

Irene

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You know what you could do is call Dr. Flechas' office directly and ask

them what is going on. You can check his website for the number. I

believe the office and lab are in the same place so they would probably

know. Wouldn't hurt to try.

Irene

At 09:55 AM 12/13/2006, you wrote:

Good afternoon,

My doctor ordered the Iodine Loading test for me a while ago. I read the

instructions but apparently misread them. I took the pills 24 hours

BEFORE the time I intended to actually start collecting. I called the lab

and ordered another four pills; they took my credit card over the phone.

That was more than a month ago and still I have not received the pills.

As many of you know it is nearly impossible to get through to the lab. My

doctor said he has a bottle of the pills at home and he'd be glad to give

me four. However, I believe the instructions require the number on the

packet of pills to be included on the form that is sent back with the

specimens.

How important is that number and is there any getting around it? Am I at

the mercy of that lab or does anyone here have any suggestions.

Thank you,

Lori

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Thank you. I just faxed my doctor and asked that he call. I assume they cannot

treat doctors the same way they treat the rest of us. We'll see.

On Wednesday, December 13, 2006, at 01:47PM, <Irene.M@...> wrote:

>You know what you could do is call Dr. Flechas' office directly and ask

>them what is going on. You can check his website for the number. I believe

>the office and lab are in the same place so they would probably know.

>Wouldn't hurt to try.

>Irene

>

>

>At 09:55 AM 12/13/2006, you wrote:

>

>>Good afternoon,

>>

>>My doctor ordered the Iodine Loading test for me a while ago. I read the

>>instructions but apparently misread them. I took the pills 24 hours BEFORE

>>the time I intended to actually start collecting. I called the lab and

>>ordered another four pills; they took my credit card over the phone. That

>>was more than a month ago and still I have not received the pills. As many

>>of you know it is nearly impossible to get through to the lab. My doctor

>>said he has a bottle of the pills at home and he'd be glad to give me

>>four. However, I believe the instructions require the number on the packet

>>of pills to be included on the form that is sent back with the specimens.

>>

>>How important is that number and is there any getting around it? Am I at

>>the mercy of that lab or does anyone here have any suggestions.

>>

>>Thank you,

>>

>>Lori

>>

>>

>

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There was another lab mentioned...is it equal in quality, etc? If so,

can someone please give me that info? I'm waiting for the iodine

loading test before I can really " do " anything...

Don't want to increase thyroid meds if I'm going to add iodine. Don't

want to take progesterone if I'm going to add iodine. Meantime, I'm

feeling like crap & want to get out of the holding pattern!

Thanks!

Warmly,

>

> The lab is open. FFP labs is very busy and short-staffed at this time.

> They are not answering their phone after 12 noon and are very slow

with call

> backs.

>

>

>

> Kallie

>

> _____

>

> From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On

Behalf Of

> Irene.M@...

> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 2:07 PM

> iodine

> Subject: RE: Loading Test

>

>

>

> The lab want the lot number only if there is any adverse reaction.

You can

> check the paperwork but I think the lot number is only written on the

> adverse reaction reporting page. On the other hand I have never had a

> problem reaching the lab. Even as late as 3 weeks ago. I wonder if

they are

> closed for the holiday or something. I am not sure you want to send

a sample

> unless you know there is someone to receive it.

> Irene

>

>

>

>

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I have to add that it has taken me two years to reach 75mg daily. And, of course, taking high Vit C intake as well as selenium, magnesium, b2, b3 and other supplements are very important. Mahin

I didn't experience any symptoms the first time I did the test. The 4 Iodoral you take for the test is a one time deal and as such I don't know if it's enough to cause any major problems. After you do the test and start supplementation with Iodoral, you may experience detox in which case (like me) you'd have to start low dosage and gradually increase. I began with half of one every other day, now I'm up to 6 pills (75mg) a day. Mahin

and others,Can anyone tell me what would be the worst symptoms I might expect from taking the 4 Iodoral for the 24 hour loading test? I'm a bit reluctant to dose myself this way as I've probably never taken more than 500mcg at a time. Wouldn't it be wiser to take 1 mg then 5 mg then 10 mg, then 20, etc.to see if my body handles it ok?Thanks.Rebekah

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Thanks ,

I'm curious to know what you experienced after you started taking the 50

mg day. Did you feel any changes? Did you see any changes on your labs?

Thanks for sharing.

Rebekah

ladybugsandbees wrote:

>

> Most people have no issues with it. My iodine levels were undetectable

> when

> I started and I had been told that I was allergic to iodine. I started

> out

> on 50 mgs right away.

>

> The symptoms you may experience are increased salivation, headache,

> aching

> joints and in very rare cases depression or anxiety. Some also get some

> heart palpitations which can be handled with Vit C and Magnesium. Most

> reactions come on after days of supplementing so one initial dose for the

> test is unlikely to cause issues.

>

>

>

> Loading Test

>

> > and others,

> > Can anyone tell me what would be the worst symptoms I might expect from

> > taking the 4 Iodoral for the 24 hour loading test? I'm a bit reluctant

> > to dose myself this way as I've probably never taken more than 500mcg at

> > a time. Wouldn't it be wiser to take 1 mg then 5 mg then 10 mg, then 20,

> > etc.to see if my body handles it ok?

> > Thanks.

> > Rebekah

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Send Message: iodine <mailto:iodine%40>

> >

> > Iodine

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You know that entirely depends on you. Most people are fine taking the

50mg. But if you are really sensitive and want to be careful working up

is not a bad idea. You just need to check with the lab you are

using. You might have to abstain from taking any for 48 hours prior to

the test.

Irene

At 07:49 AM 10/27/2007, you wrote:

and others,

Can anyone tell me what would be the worst symptoms I might expect from

taking the 4 Iodoral for the 24 hour loading test? I'm a bit reluctant

to dose myself this way as I've probably never taken more than 500mcg at

a time. Wouldn't it be wiser to take 1 mg then 5 mg then 10 mg, then 20,

etc.to see if my body handles it ok?

Thanks.

Rebekah

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are you sure it would have taken you that long to get to 75mg? I went from zero to 50mg in 3 days. When I tried to decrease from 50mg after 3 months is when I felt just awful and nonfunctional, couldn't even walk straight. I think it would have been sheer torture to go up slowly and I would have given up.

Gracia

I have to add that it has taken me two years to reach 75mg daily. And, of course, taking high Vit C intake as well as selenium, magnesium, b2, b3 and other supplements are very important. Mahin

I didn't experience any symptoms the first time I did the test. The 4 Iodoral you take for the test is a one time deal and as such I don't know if it's enough to cause any major problems. After you do the test and start supplementation with Iodoral, you may experience detox in which case (like me) you'd have to start low dosage and gradually increase. I began with half of one every other day, now I'm up to 6 pills (75mg) a day. Mahin

and others,Can anyone tell me what would be the worst symptoms I might expect from taking the 4 Iodoral for the 24 hour loading test? I'm a bit reluctant to dose myself this way as I've probably never taken more than 500mcg at a time. Wouldn't it be wiser to take 1 mg then 5 mg then 10 mg, then 20, etc.to see if my body handles it ok?Thanks.Rebekah

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Evidently either your body didn't have a lot of bromide to detox, or your body detoxed without obvious side effects. I don't understand why you even tried to decreased your dosage after you already went 3 months without any side effects!

I too started with 50 mg but that was short-lived due to major mouth and tongue sores and some pimples. And I'm one of many Amazons (the breast cancer support group) who experienced major detox to begin with and beyond. I stopped and started taking Iodoral many times while at the same time I was trying to gradually increase dosage. In fact, it was after I learned about and began taking Celtic sea salt (dissolved in water) with Iodoral that I stopped having detox side effects altogether. That was almost 7 months ago at which time I began taking 50mg again and last month increased it to 75mg.

Mahin

are you sure it would have taken you that long to get to 75mg? I went from zero to 50mg in 3 days. When I tried to decrease from 50mg after 3 months is when I felt just awful and nonfunctional, couldn't even walk straight. I think it would have been sheer torture to go up slowly and I would have given up.

Gracia

I have to add that it has taken me two years to reach 75mg daily. And, of course, taking high Vit C intake as well as selenium, magnesium, b2, b3 and other supplements are very important. Mahin

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hi

I guess I thought I was supposed to go to maintenance dose of 12.5mg after 3 months! Now I am happy taking 50mg per day.

Actually the first three months were pretty wild--I wasn't getting enough magnesium and I did get skin breakouts. I have always eaten lots of salt.

Gracia

Evidently either your body didn't have a lot of bromide to detox, or your body detoxed without obvious side effects. I don't understand why you even tried to decreased your dosage after you already went 3 months without any side effects!

I too started with 50 mg but that was short-lived due to major mouth and tongue sores and some pimples. And I'm one of many Amazons (the breast cancer support group) who experienced major detox to begin with and beyond. I stopped and started taking Iodoral many times while at the same time I was trying to gradually increase dosage. In fact, it was after I learned about and began taking Celtic sea salt (dissolved in water) with Iodoral that I stopped having detox side effects altogether. That was almost 7 months ago at which time I began taking 50mg again and last month increased it to 75mg.

Mahin

are you sure it would have taken you that long to get to 75mg? I went from zero to 50mg in 3 days. When I tried to decrease from 50mg after 3 months is when I felt just awful and nonfunctional, couldn't even walk straight. I think it would have been sheer torture to go up slowly and I would have given up.

Gracia

I have to add that it has taken me two years to reach 75mg daily. And, of course, taking high Vit C intake as well as selenium, magnesium, b2, b3 and other supplements are very important. Mahin

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> Thanks ,> I'm curious to know what you experienced after you started taking the 50 > mg day.

It was hard to tell because I was switching from Synthroid to Armour so it was a rough time for me.

Did you feel any changes? Did you see any changes on your labs?

The labs that changed were my cancer markers (Tg) came down from 24 to 11.9. That was exciting enough to keep me taking it!

> Thanks for sharing.> Rebekah>

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