Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 HI Pam We are always interested in getting 'expert' advice regarding nutrition and any little tips to help us. Can you post your email address so everybody has access to it as it doesn't automatically appear on the list. I thought there was only a minimal amount of adrenalin in NAE. Luv - Sheila If its ok with the moderators to post this,if it is helpful to people here because I have a diploma in Nutrition I am able to supply the Nutri products, including glandulars at below recommended prices.Please email me off list for details.Unfortunately here in the UK we are unable to supply cortex only glandulars anymore as the EC have banned this so we are just left with the Nutri one which contains the whole of the adrenal gland including the medulla. In some cases very sensitive individuals aren't able to tolerate this because of the adrenalin component so one is only left with herbs and vitamins if one wants to treat the adrenals naturally. That is why I always recommend just starting with one Nutri adrenal with breakfast for several days to check for sensitivity before increasing the dose.PamNo virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1578 - Release Date: 28/07/2008 17:13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Hi Pam I am interested to hear what you think about the nutri adrenal supplement and the nutri thyroid glandular supplement. I have been taking the nutri adrenal for 3 and half weeks now, I started at one a day and am now on 3 a day. The nutri thyroid I have been taking for just over a week, again starting at one and now on 2. I have seen Dr P and he says I can take as many as 4 nutri thyroid so will build up to that. Do you think these supplements are any good and actually work. I have been taking thyroxine on its own for 21 months before I had the adrenal salivary profile done and my results were all below range on the cortisol output apart from the midnight one, I didnt stop the thyroxine while I boosted my adrenals I just carried on with it and didnt really feel any adverse effects from doing that. How long do you think one should take these supplements? My main symptom now is feeling heady, still slighty detached and sometimes as if I am in a dream world, all the thyroid stuff is a nightmare and not as easy as the doctors seem to think it is, just popping the T4 pill and all will be well is not the case as I have found out through the TPA From: doggy532001 <doggy532001@...>Subject: Can supply Nutri adrenal glandularsthyroid treatment Date: Tuesday, 29 July, 2008, 2:56 PM If its ok with the moderators to post this,if it is helpful to people here because I have a diploma in Nutrition I am able to supply the Nutri products, including glandulars at below recommended prices.Please email me off list for details.Unfortunately here in the UK we are unable to supply cortex only glandulars anymore as the EC have banned this so we are just left with the Nutri one which contains the whole of the adrenal gland including the medulla. In some cases very sensitive individuals aren't able to tolerate this because of the adrenalin component so one is only left with herbs and vitamins if one wants to treat the adrenals naturally. That is why I always recommend just starting with one Nutri adrenal with breakfast for several days to check for sensitivity before increasing the dose.Pam Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 > > HI Pam > > We are always interested in getting 'expert' advice regarding nutrition and any little tips to help us. Can you post your email address so everybody has access to it as it doesn't automatically appear on the list. I thought there was only a minimal amount of adrenalin in NAE. > > Luv - Sheila > Hi Sheila Its ok to use my email address = doggy532001@.... With regard to the adrenaline component of the NA and NEA I don't know the exact amount but I know that I have come across several people (me included) who unfortunately couldn't tolerate it. It actually used to give me a panic attack about an hour after taking just one tablet so it was doing me more harm than good and even 1/2 tablet would cause a nasty feeling of overstimulation. This sensitivity thing is always something I mention to look out for because it isn't uncommon. I have spoken to Nutri and Dr P about it so they are aware of this. On a positive note there are lots of other people who do really well with it, it might well depend on the stage of adrenal fatigue/insufficiency one is at. I was definitely an extreme case with a messed up pathway, my DHEA was well over the range which was only corrected when I was on a steroid. Dr P said this showed my adrenals had been struggling for a very long time (about about 14 years). Also I did improve with the NT, I went up to 5 daily and this helped me without any overstimulation but later I swithed to Armour and just 25 mcg thyroxine. BW Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 > > Hi Pam > I am interested to hear what you think about the nutri adrenal supplement and the nutri thyroid glandular supplement. I have been taking the nutri adrenal for 3 and half weeks now, I started at one a day and am now on 3 a day. The nutri thyroid I have been taking for just over a week, again starting at one and now on 2. I have seen Dr P and he says I can take as many as 4 nutri thyroid so will build up to that. Do you think these supplements are any good and actually work. > I have been taking thyroxine on its own for 21 months before I had the adrenal salivary profile done and my results were all below range on the cortisol output apart from the midnight one, I didnt stop the thyroxine while I boosted my adrenals I just carried on with it and didnt really feel any adverse effects from doing that. How long do you think one should take these supplements? > My main symptom now is feeling heady, still slighty detached and sometimes as if I am in a dream world, all the thyroid stuff is a nightmare and not as easy as the doctors seem to think it is, just popping the T4 pill and all will be well is not the case as I have found out through the TPA > > Hi I think a lot depends on what stage of adrenal fatigue/insufficiency one might be at when starting treatment. If you catch the adrenal problem fairly quickly I think the NA is excellent and will support the adrenals to heal because the idea is they supply everything the adrenal glands need to heal so probably something like 6 months-one year should be sufficent for them to heal PROVIDED one changes one's life style to enable this to happen. Its no good carrying on with a stressful lifestyle and expect the adrenals to recover by just taking the glandulars. After all something got us sick in the first place but like Dr P says I am sure there are a huge number of reasons as to why the adrenals suffer in the first place, it just isn't straight-forward, its hugely complicated. If the problem just lies with weak adrenal functioning because of a period of stress it should be fairly easy to treat with proper nutrition (this is so important), enough sleep and rest and vitamins, minerals and glandulars. However if the problem lies with the HPA axis which I think is much more common than doctors recognise than it is much more complicated to treat and maybe glandulars would not work and only a steroid like h/c or low dose Prednisolone would be helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 > > Hi Pam > I am interested to hear what you think about the nutri adrenal supplement and the nutri thyroid glandular supplement. I have been taking the nutri adrenal for 3 and half weeks now, I started at one a day and am now on 3 a day. The nutri thyroid I have been taking for just over a week, again starting at one and now on 2. I have seen Dr P and he says I can take as many as 4 nutri thyroid so will build up to that. Do you think these supplements are any good and actually work. > I have been taking thyroxine on its own for 21 months before I had the adrenal salivary profile done and my results were all below range on the cortisol output apart from the midnight one, I didnt stop the thyroxine while I boosted my adrenals I just carried on with it and didnt really feel any adverse effects from doing that. How long do you think one should take these supplements? > My main symptom now is feeling heady, still slighty detached and ometimes as if I am in a dream world, all the thyroid stuff is a nightmare and not as easy as the doctors seem to think it is, just popping the T4 pill and all will be well is not the case as I have found out through the TPA > > Sorry my last post went through before I had finished it!! Your main symptoms certainly look like they are connected to adrenals and thyroid dysfunction. You will see in my earlier post to Sheila that I found the NT very helpful and I went up to 5 daily. Not only did I have better energy but my temperature which had been ery low did increase. One of the experts at Nutri advised that it is ok to go up to 6 daily but I think if one needs thast amount it is cheaper to take ARmour and that is what I eventually did. Good luck Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Hi Pam, so Nutri adrenal Extra does contain adrenalin? I'd been wondering whether it did or not, thank you :-) > the medulla. In some cases very sensitive individuals aren't able to > tolerate this because of the adrenalin component so one is only left > with herbs and vitamins if one wants to treat the adrenals naturally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Hi Pam Are you also allowed to sell Isocort or is that not allowed in this country? There is nothing listed on the bottle about HC lotsa luv Dawnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 > > Hi Pam, > I dont know what stage my adrenals were at when I had them tested but I can supply my results to show you and maybe you could comment on them? I think they became stressed when I was put on thyroxine and with each dose increase and looking back maybe even before I was diagnosed but how can you find out, its just a guessing game really > > > your results probably do give some indication as to what stage you are at but I agree it can be a bit of a guessing game. Presumably you had DHEA-S tested too because that is part of the story. Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 > > Hi Pam, so Nutri adrenal Extra does contain adrenalin? I'd been > wondering whether it did or not, thank you :-) > > > the medulla. In some cases very sensitive individuals aren't able to > > tolerate this because of the adrenalin component so one is only left > > with herbs and vitamins if one wants to treat the adrenals > naturally. > Hi Yes it contains the part of the adrenal gland called the medulla as well as cortex and adrenaline is produced in the medulla, cortisol from the cortex. I think that explains why that feeling of overstimulation can be felt in some sensitive individuals who probably produce too much adrenaline anyway but don't produce enough cortisol to balance it. Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 > > Hi Pam > > Are you also allowed to sell Isocort or is that not allowed in this > country? There is nothing listed on the bottle about HC > > lotsa luv > Dawnx > Hi Dawn No I don't think anybody can sell it in the UK but of course you can get it over the Net. My understanding is that each pellet contains the equivalent of 2.5 h/c but I have heard of many who are in the later stages of adrenal fatigue bordering on insufficiency for whom it doesn't work they have had to go onto hydrocortisone. BW Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008  Hi Dr Peatfield would not be recommending NAE or Nutri Thyroid unless it had a good record of helping sufferers with adrenal problems. These supplements are good and yes, they do work. You must be patient and wait for them to start working for you, being on them for 3 weeks and 1 week is far too short a time to tell whether they will work for you or not. Once the NAE and NT start to boost your adrenals and thyroid, your thyroxine will hopefully work better. Luv - Sheila Hi Pam I am interested to hear what you think about the nutri adrenal supplement and the nutri thyroid glandular supplement. I have been taking the nutri adrenal for 3 and half weeks now, I started at one a day and am now on 3 a day. The nutri thyroid I have been taking for just over a week, again starting at one and now on 2. I have seen Dr P and he says I can take as many as 4 nutri thyroid so will build up to that. Do you think these supplements are any good and actually work. I have been taking thyroxine on its own for 21 months before I had the adrenal salivary profile done and my results were all below range on the cortisol output apart from the midnight one, I didnt stop the thyroxine while I boosted my adrenals I just carried on with it and didnt really feel any adverse effects from doing that. How long do you think one should take these supplements? My main symptom now is feeling heady, still slighty detached and sometimes as if I am in a dream world, all the thyroid stuff is a nightmare and not as easy as the doctors seem to think it is, just popping the T4 pill and all will be well is not the case as I have found out through the TPA From: doggy532001 <doggy532001 (DOT) co.uk>Subject: Can supply Nutri adrenal glandularsthyroid treatment Date: Tuesday, 29 July, 2008, 2:56 PM If its ok with the moderators to post this,if it is helpful to people here because I have a diploma in Nutrition I am able to supply the Nutri products, including glandulars at below recommended prices.Please email me off list for details.Unfortunately here in the UK we are unable to supply cortex only glandulars anymore as the EC have banned this so we are just left with the Nutri one which contains the whole of the adrenal gland including the medulla. In some cases very sensitive individuals aren't able to tolerate this because of the adrenalin component so one is only left with herbs and vitamins if one wants to treat the adrenals naturally. That is why I always recommend just starting with one Nutri adrenal with breakfast for several days to check for sensitivity before increasing the dose.Pam Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29/07/2008 06:43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Ingredients - Nutri Adrenal ExtraEach tablet typically provides: Vitamin C (as Ascorbic Acid) Vitamin B1 (Thiamin HCl) Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin) Vitamin B3 (Niacinamide)Vitamin B5 (Calcium Pantothenate)Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine HCl) Lemon BioflavonoidsMagnesium (Oxide) L-Methionine Choline Bitartrate Adrenal tissue concentratePituitary tissue concentrateParotid tissue concentrateChromium PolynicotinateAll tissue concentrates are of bovine source from New Zealand. 175mg15 mg15mg 50 mg70 mg15 mg45mg 100mg60mg60mg221mg12mg2mg Hi Pam, so Nutri adrenal Extra does contain adrenalin? I'd been wondering whether it did or not, thank you :-) > the medulla. In some cases very sensitive individuals aren't able to > tolerate this because of the adrenalin component so one is only left > with herbs and vitamins if one wants to treat the adrenals naturally. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29/07/2008 06:43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Thanks for the reply Pam. Yes they say it has HC in, and it does a little more than the nutri (I have one bottle) but I cannot say anything on the bottle about HC, strange. I get sick of the nanny state lol. lotsa luv Dawnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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