RE: RE: don't have to break them down first

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ne <slrautio@...<mailto:slrautio@...>> wrote: Dave

- thank you for the reply...and maybe you can help me a bit more. I

know that there is a mass in my gallbladder - I can feel it all the time.

It is uncomfortable but not painful and it becomes more uncomfortable when I

eat rich food. I don't think my body can expel it thro a flush since it is

so solid (I think I have had it for 10 years or so) so I need to break it

down. What do you think would be a good product: beta TCP, gold coin

grass, celandine or something else?

ne

Hi Suzanne,

It is entirely possible that you may be able to " flush " the " mass " .

However, if not in imminent need, dissolution is probably the safer, easier

road; just not as quick. All of these liver herbs are excellent choices, it

just depends on which " expert " you talk to. Lysmachia (GCG)-chinese, Bhumy

amalaki- ayurveda and central/south American, Celandine, dandelion,

etc.-European, Boldo-South American, and nauseum (literally). They are all

excellent cholagougues which means they stimulate bile flow. All have been used

for hundreds and thousands of years successfully for this purpose. Lecithin (or

it's components), malic acid, magnesium, cold pressed oils, etc.; also

essential, and each play a different non overlapping role. Check out the

archives for more details. I do not use " formulas " as a general rule, only

because tailoring a program to an individual is more accurate. I.E. A formula

may be the best thing for the majority of people but will never be the best

thing for a specific individual.

Personal constitution is a main player in these issues. It may be that

some type of management needs to be instigated after the problem is " solved " to

limit the chance of re-occurrence. Always, in all ways, -Dave

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Dave,

Thanks again for the response - I am confused about one thing though - is

stimulating bile flow the same as dissolving a mass? In other words, is

there something in the bile that will dissolve the mass? I thought products

like GCG had something special in them like an acid of some sort to actually

break down the mass.

ne

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From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ]On

Behalf Of Dave Shelden

Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 11:30 AM

gallstones

Subject: Re: RE: don't have to break them down first

Hi Suzanne,

It is entirely possible that you may be able to " flush " the " mass " .

However, if not in imminent need, dissolution is probably the safer, easier

road; just not as quick. All of these liver herbs are excellent choices, it

just depends on which " expert " you talk to. Lysmachia (GCG)-chinese, Bhumy

amalaki- ayurveda and central/south American, Celandine, dandelion,

etc.-European, Boldo-South American, and nauseum (literally). They are all

excellent cholagougues which means they stimulate bile flow. All have been

used for hundreds and thousands of years successfully for this purpose.

Lecithin (or it's components), malic acid, magnesium, cold pressed oils,

etc.; also essential, and each play a different non overlapping role. Check

out the archives for more details. I do not use " formulas " as a general

rule, only because tailoring a program to an individual is more accurate.

I.E. A formula may be the best thing for the majority of people but will

never be the best thing for a

Personal constitution is a main player in these issues. It may be

that some type of management needs to be instigated after the problem is

" solved " to limit the chance of re-occurrence. Always, in all ways, -Dave

[Guest guest]

thanks for the info - I have done two flushes with no results. I also am

taking malic acid daily and this doesn't seem to of had any effect. I think

this mass is quite solid.

ne

-----Original Message-----

From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ]On

Behalf Of L L

Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:55 AM

gallstones

Subject: RE: don't have to break them down first

The mass decreases with each flush. I lived with it for many years as well.

I don't take anything to 'break down' the mass of stones, but when I do the

oil flush, the uncomfortable feeling diminished more each time when finally,

it is gone

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----- Original Message -----

From: ne<mailto:slrautio@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:50 AM

Subject: RE: RE: don't have to break them down first

thanks for the info - I have done two flushes with no results. I also am

taking malic acid daily and this doesn't seem to of had any effect. I think

this mass is quite solid.

ne

Suzanne,

Do not lose heart. Many people flush many more times before obtaining

the desired result. The " mass " will not be homogenous, it will consist of many

smaller masses even if you are not having success yet in purging " it " . The

malic acid is only one component of a dissolution program: Lecithin or it's

components, quality oils, water, potentially bile salts (acids), certain aminos,

herbs, all may be equally important components. Dissolution takes months,

sometimes many, to fruit success.