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Thanks, Steph. I had forgotten that SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) is associated with Vitamin D. Here are a few brief references in case any one else was curious.

"A recent study by the Boston University School of Medicine found that relatively brief exposure to light, several times a week, can help in combating depression and other symptoms of SAD. Vitamin D apparently boosts levels of serotonin in the brain."

http://www.shopnatural.com/newsletter_0105.htm

"If dim winter sunlight gives you seasonal affective disorder (SAD), getting more vitamin D may boost your mood. Australian researchers gave 44 healthy adults either 400 IU or 800 IU vitamin D or a "sugar pill" for five days in late winter. Subjects were unaware of which they were getting. It turned out those getting the vitamin D reported feeling better. One possible explanation: Vitamin D, called "the hormone of sunlight," boosts levels of serotonin - a feel-good chemical - in the brain."

http://www.usaweekend.com/99_issues/990103/990103eatsmart.html

Also found the following interesting article: "The human skin as a hormone target and an endocrine gland." 2004.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16982574?ordinalpos=11 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

Zoe

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Do you have a reference on low Vit D affecting serotonin? Zoe

The thing that stands out to me is your low serotonin levels. Those can be tied to low Vit D levels.

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In reading your post, Zoe, I was reminded of the link between use of drugs and boosting serotonin levels. When I first started looking into my diabetes problem, I came upon a book by Schwarzbein, MD, called " The Schwarzbein Principal " . In that book, she linked drug addictions to attempts to boost serotonin levels. But whenever someone boosts serotonin with sugar, alcohol, heroin, tobacco, coffee, etc. the levels go high, then drop back low again. The more someone uses a drug to boost serotonin levels, the more apt that he or she will become seriously addicted.

Back 25 years ago, I first read about seasonal depression and the possible usefulness of full spectrum lighting in my home. But back then, full spectrum lighting was far too expensive for me. Now, full spectrum lamps are much less expensive. And cod liver oil is great for boosting vitamin D3 levels. I now use both and do not get sugar cravings at all. Which I find to be amazing, considering my decades long massive sugar use. I do wish I had incorporated full spectrum lighting and D3 into my life back in the 1980s. Had I done that, I feel I might have avoided diabetes.

Alobar

On 1/21/08, Zoe <mauizoe@...> wrote:

Thanks, Steph. I had forgotten that SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) is associated with Vitamin D. Here are a few brief references in case any one else was curious.

" A recent study by the Boston University School of Medicine found that relatively brief exposure to light, several times a week, can help in combating depression and other symptoms of SAD. Vitamin D apparently boosts levels of serotonin in the brain. "

http://www.shopnatural.com/newsletter_0105.htm

" If dim winter sunlight gives you seasonal affective disorder (SAD), getting more vitamin D may boost your mood. Australian researchers gave 44 healthy adults either 400 IU or 800 IU vitamin D or a " sugar pill " for five days in late winter. Subjects were unaware of which they were getting. It turned out those getting the vitamin D reported feeling better. One possible explanation: Vitamin D, called " the hormone of sunlight, " boosts levels of serotonin - a feel-good chemical - in the brain. "

http://www.usaweekend.com/99_issues/990103/990103eatsmart.html

Also found the following interesting article: " The human skin as a hormone target and an endocrine gland. " 2004.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16982574?ordinalpos=11 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

Zoe

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Alobar,

I too believe i have low serotonin. i have been slightly depressed as

long as i can remember, even as a small child. There are many

reasons for the depression at that time, however, i have now done much

work on myself to be happier as i am in control of my own life.

However, i still have the depression, it never goes away. I show no

indication of depression outwardly, appear very cheerful and postive,

yet, i feel so unmotivated most of the time...unless it's play! It

was suggested that i take an antidepressant, but i say no...no meds!

So, i asked my doctor who is holistic, and he suggested st. johns

wort. i want to get the right kind. Can u help? I also have

diabetes II. I am also very interested in the full spectrum

lighting. i love light! Can u tell me where to get the lights? I

also suspect low serotonin levels.

thanks,

diana

>

> In reading your post, Zoe, I was reminded of the link between

use of

> drugs and boosting serotonin levels. When I first started looking

into my

> diabetes problem, I came upon a book by Schwarzbein, MD,

called " The

> Schwarzbein Principal " . In that book, she linked drug addictions to

> attempts to boost serotonin levels. But whenever someone boosts

serotonin

> with sugar, alcohol, heroin, tobacco, coffee, etc. the levels go

high, then

> drop back low again. The more someone uses a drug to boost serotonin

> levels, the more apt that he or she will become seriously addicted.

>

> Back 25 years ago, I first read about seasonal depression

and the

> possible usefulness of full spectrum lighting in my home. But back

then,

> full spectrum lighting was far too expensive for me. Now, full

spectrum

> lamps are much less expensive. And cod liver oil is great for boosting

> vitamin D3 levels. I now use both and do not get sugar cravings at all.

> Which I find to be amazing, considering my decades long massive

sugar use.

> I do wish I had incorporated full spectrum lighting and D3 into my

life back

> in the 1980s. Had I done that, I feel I might have avoided diabetes.

>

> Alobar

>

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I am also very interested in the full spectrum

> lighting. i love light! Can u tell me where to get the lights? I

> also suspect low serotonin levels.

> diana

I have bought 2 full spectrum floor lamps, compact fluorescent bulbs,

and 4' fluorescent tubes from www.fullspectrumsolutions.com. They also

sell light therapy boxes. I have been very impressed with their

quality and service. They have articles on their web site which

explain the importance of full spectrum lighting and what features to

look for in fixtures and lamps. I have no affiliation with them, I am

just a satisfied customer.

Lynn

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I never bought St.'s wort. I use SJW oil on my diabetic legs. A

friend in Canada makes it & sends it to me as a favor.

Walmart used to sell full spectrum lighting, but last time I went

there, I could not locate any. I just ordered some from

http://www.fullspectrumsolutions.com/compact_fluorescent_32_ctg.htm

I just installed two bulbs an hour ago. Slightly bluer than the

Walmart bulbs. I like them.

I also use cod liver oil daily, In summer I work at night out of the

hot sunlight, and now the sun is low in the sky & I have on lots of

clothing, so I sure need more D. D3 is much more useful than D2.

Cod liver oil has D3. Carlson's brand has heavy metals removed, and

it has a pleasant taste. Health food stores carry it, but on-line, it

is less expensive.

http://www.vitacost.com/Carlson-Norwegian-Cod-Liver-Oil-High-In-EPA-DHA

On 1/22/08, dianamagic2000 <gdiana07@...> wrote:

> Alobar,

>

> I too believe i have low serotonin. i have been slightly depressed as

> long as i can remember, even as a small child. There are many

> reasons for the depression at that time, however, i have now done much

> work on myself to be happier as i am in control of my own life.

> However, i still have the depression, it never goes away. I show no

> indication of depression outwardly, appear very cheerful and postive,

> yet, i feel so unmotivated most of the time...unless it's play! It

> was suggested that i take an antidepressant, but i say no...no meds!

> So, i asked my doctor who is holistic, and he suggested st. johns

> wort. i want to get the right kind. Can u help? I also have

> diabetes II. I am also very interested in the full spectrum

> lighting. i love light! Can u tell me where to get the lights? I

> also suspect low serotonin levels.

>

> thanks,

>

> diana

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Dr. Mercola sells a full spectrum from China. Says it's the only true

full spectrum because truly full spectrum is outlawed in the US.

On Jan 22, 2008, at 8:01 PM, Alobar wrote:

> Walmart used to sell full spectrum lighting, but last time I went

> there,

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Mercola *always* says he has the best stuff available. What Mercola

sells is also much more expensive than similar products. Whether it

really is any better, I do not know. Full spectrum lighting I use

won't give me a suntan, so I know I need to take cod liver oil for

vitamin D, as well as live under the daylight balanced lamps.

Alobar

On 1/24/08, Parashis <artpages@...> wrote:

> Dr. Mercola sells a full spectrum from China. Says it's the only true

> full spectrum because truly full spectrum is outlawed in the US.

>

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alobar,

well, i'm in agreement here...the prices of products sold on Mercola's

site are very expensive. I logged onto the site u posted a few days

ago about full spectrum and did not know which to order. i did buy

one 100 w (uses 23 w) in Lowes' Hardware for $8, however unsure if it

is ok. i am at a loss as to what to get.

thanks, diana

> > Dr. Mercola sells a full spectrum from China. Says it's the only true

> > full spectrum because truly full spectrum is outlawed in the US.

> >

>

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The way I see it, any brand of full-spectrum bulb is better than a

regular incandescent bulb or a regular fluorescent bulb.

The first few days I had full spectrum bulbs installed, I kept getting

internal warnings, reminding me that I am sitting in the sun for far

too long, and am going to get burned. After a few days, when I did

not burn, the warnings went away. That told me that my body seemed

to equate the daylight balanced bulbs with direct sun exposure.

Since I began using the new CFL bulbs, I have begun to like them

better. As I age, I like brighter lights and the cooler color

temperature is great for looking at my face in the bathroom mirror

because it highlights my eczema, so I can treat it better. So I shall

probably switch over to the bluer daylight bulbs as my old bulbs burn

out.

Alobar

On 1/25/08, dianamagic2000 <gdiana07@...> wrote:

> alobar,

>

> well, i'm in agreement here...the prices of products sold on Mercola's

> site are very expensive. I logged onto the site u posted a few days

> ago about full spectrum and did not know which to order. i did buy

> one 100 w (uses 23 w) in Lowes' Hardware for $8, however unsure if it

> is ok. i am at a loss as to what to get.

>

> thanks, diana

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