Re: Progress on Armour

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That sounds great Helen. You must be pleased!I'm still battling on at 1½ grains with an increase to 2 grains due on Tuesday. I'm so cold and tired, and my skin is so dry it's driving me nuts!! But I know I'm still on the right track.It's good to hear positive stories like your own to keep me going!Barbara

Just to let you know that I increased my dose from 3 to 31/2 grains a

few days ago and lights are beginning to come on big time. (I started

on 3rd January). Temperature is stable, still a little low and

symptoms of diarrhoea, palps and shaking hands (that was a worry) have

gone. I've been able to start exercise, still not much stamina but

that's a great improvement! I'm so hopeful now, though still no change

in weight.

Once again, my huge thanks to Sheila and everyone else who's helped on

the forum, without which I'd still be completely in the dark.

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HI Helen

I am so pleased you are starting to feel so much better now. What symptoms ARE still remaining. Have you thought that if you are "not quite there" that because the amount of T4 and T3 are standardised in Armour, and that you may need a little bit more synthetic T3 or synthetic T4 to get your balance absolutely right. I take 3 grains of Armour and need an extra 25 mcgs L-thyroxine to make me feel 100%. We are all different, and need to adjust and experiment sometimes to find what our body really needs. However, see how you get on with your latest increase.

Thanks for letting us know, it is so good to have feedback because many seem to come onto the forum, read the information, treat themselves and then disappear, without ever telling us whether the recommendations actually worked for them or not. So keep up the good work.

Luv - Sheila

Just to let you know that I increased my dose from 3 to 31/2 grains a few days ago and lights are beginning to come on big time. (I started on 3rd January). Temperature is stable, still a little low and symptoms of diarrhoea, palps and shaking hands (that was a worry) have gone. I've been able to start exercise, still not much stamina but that's a great improvement! I'm so hopeful now, though still no change in weight.Once again, my huge thanks to Sheila and everyone else who's helped on the forum, without which I'd still be completely in the dark.Helen x

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Hi Barbara

A few days won't make much difference in waiting to ioncrease your dose. I would think it would be OK to increase your dose now. Some doctors recommend increasing it every 2 to 3 weeks, because I am not medically qualified, I err on the side of caution and recommend staying on your dose for 3 to 4 weeks before increasing again. It is obvious that you need more thyroid hormone right now.

Luv - Sheila

That sounds great Helen. You must be pleased!I'm still battling on at 1½ grains with an increase to 2 grains due on Tuesday. I'm so cold and tired, and my skin is so dry it's driving me nuts!! But I know I'm still on the right track.It's good to hear positive stories like your own to keep me going!Barbara

Just to let you know that I increased my dose from 3 to 31/2 grains a few days ago and lights are beginning to come on big time. (I started on 3rd January). Temperature is stable, still a little low and symptoms of diarrhoea, palps and shaking hands (that was a worry) have gone. I've been able to start exercise, still not much stamina but that's a great improvement! I'm so hopeful now, though still no change in weight.Once again, my huge thanks to Sheila and everyone else who's helped on the forum, without which I'd still be completely in the dark.

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Hi Sheila,

I do feel I'm not quite there, but difficult to quantify what's

remaining. Sometimes my brain just doesn't function, and my mood

drops suddenly into a hole, even though I'm eating small regular

meals with protein and still keep up the supplements. But the

periods of lucidity are improving by the day this week. Problems

with joints and muscles have all gone. Heart rate's up from 60 to

66. I'm very tired at the end of the day, not much stamina by 3-4pm,

but I do go to work very early. I tried postponing my second dose

but that didn't seem to help.

I'll give this level another 3-4 weeks, then try a small increase to

see if needed.

Helen x

>

> HI Helen

>

> I am so pleased you are starting to feel so much better now. What

symptoms ARE still remaining.

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Oh dear Marie

This is an awful thing to happen to you - or to anybody for that matter. I sometimes wish they would bring back the birch - or Borstal - or both. We live in an awful world these days and I wonder whether it will ever get any better.

Are you taking any adrenal support Marie - if not, you really should start taking something like Nutri Adrenal Extra as your adrenals are obviously not coping and this will be why you had the bad reaction you did. You could get some Siberian Ginseng and liquorice to help you. Let me know if you have had the adrenal test, if not, first do the adrenal questionnaire that is in our files and see how you score.

When people are hypothyroid (with the slow metabolism of course) this causes constipation in many of us, even though we didn't realise we are a bit constipated. When you start taking Armour which has all the thyroid hormones, many people get loose stools rather than 'dire-rear' - this will ease and once your body becomes completely acclimatised to Armour, you will just 'go' as normal and it will stop being a problem.

Luv - Sheila

I increased my dose of armour to 2 grms yesterday 1in the morning and 1 after lunch about 2p.m. iwas really down and depressed my sister was visiting me and as she left i took a terrible shiver i was freezing could not get warm and i curled up on the setee with a headache. i fell asleep for two hours had no tea and went to bed and slept till morning .i was a little nervous had a touch of diaorhea thought it might of been down to my increased armour. however i went to baths reluctantly had a swim to relax took my two grains today although my eyes feel tired i had no effect at all just the diaorhea. i have just been reading a couple of days mail on tpak and i note other people have had this diahorhea so i think i am okay . will let you know how i progress love to all Marie .

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Thinking about this further, is there a general picture that would

indicate whether a little more T3 or a little more T4 is needed? ie

what to start experimenting with. I know that you take extra T4

Sheila, others take T3. (I'm planning ahead, not really ready for

this yet, but I suppose paying for a blood test once I've reached my

limit on Armour would be a good idea.)

And I see that International Pharmacy has very small doses of T3. I

think they contain the equivalent T3 of 1/2 grain Armour. Does

anyone use those to even out and get through dips in " energy " ? I'm

thinking about how to extend my day beyond 4pm.

Helen x

>

> HI Helen

>

> I am so pleased you are starting to feel so much better now. What

symptoms ARE still remaining. Have you thought that if you are " not

quite there " that because the amount of T4 and T3 are standardised

in Armour, and that you may need a little bit more synthetic T3 or

synthetic T4 to get your balance absolutely right. I take 3 grains

of Armour and need an extra 25 mcgs L-thyroxine to make me feel

100%. We are all different, and need to adjust and experiment

sometimes to find what our body really needs. However, see how you

get on with your latest increase.

> >

> Luv - Sheila

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

HI Helen

the only general picture is experience. If you have been taking Armour for a while and still not quite getting rid of all the symptoms (my worst one was the pain, but although most had gone, there were still niggles reminding me on a daily basis that I was not quite there). At each rise in your dosage, you should be aware of your symptoms disappearing, but if they don't all go away, then is the time to experiment. I honestly doubt there is need to pay for a blood test either after you start on Armour - your body tells you how you are feeling and it there has been a study showing that blood tests are irrelevant as they don't give a true picture of how a patient is feeling after therapy.

You may never need extra T4 or T3 Helen, so don't be planning ahead in this way and probably causing yourself extra, unnecessary concern. It is much better to take one step at a time and deal with problems as and when they might appear - you may not get any.

You can extend your day beyond 4.00.pm. by perhaps taking your dose of Armour in 3 doses. Early morning before breakfast, middle of the afternoon and early evening. Most take two doses, but as yet, you might not be on enough Armour to be feeling the full benefit.

Luv - Sheila

Thinking about this further, is there a general picture that would indicate whether a little more T3 or a little more T4 is needed? ie what to start experimenting with. I know that you take extra T4 Sheila, others take T3. (I'm planning ahead, not really ready for this yet, but I suppose paying for a blood test once I've reached my limit on Armour would be a good idea.)And I see that International Pharmacy has very small doses of T3. I think they contain the equivalent T3 of 1/2 grain Armour. Does anyone use those to even out and get through dips in "energy"? I'm thinking about how to extend my day beyond 4pm.Helen x>> HI Helen> > I am so pleased you are starting to feel so much better now. What symptoms ARE still remaining. Have you thought that if you are "not quite there" that because the amount of T4 and T3 are standardised in Armour, and that you may need a little bit more synthetic T3 or synthetic T4 to get your balance absolutely right. I take 3 grains of Armour and need an extra 25 mcgs L-thyroxine to make me feel 100%. We are all different, and need to adjust and experiment sometimes to find what our body really needs. However, see how you get on with your latest increase.> > > Luv - Sheila> > >

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Hi Everyone

I am posting my progress as i have found other progress messages very

helpful and reassuring.

I am now up to 2 1/2 grains over 6 weeks. i have had no ill effects

apart from a few headaches the first week.

Things of note are

my eyebrows are growing

my appetite has decreased and i am sure i am losing weight (dont want

to get on the scales just yet)

my carb cravings have gone i can now take it or leave it, like i used

to.

Bloating and swelling and puffiness have gone

PMS symptoms have gone

Lumpy throat gone

Joint pain and stiffness 80% better

Muscle weakness and pain 80% better

sleeping well.

i am left with

feeling cold

energy low and dips (but even they don't last like they used to)

All in all i am on the up with Armour!

Ali

X

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Hi Ali

Pleased to hear that Armour is working for you. Isn't it absolutely WONDERFUL?

You might need some adrenal support if you still have symptoms of coldness and low energy - when are you next due a blood test. I would get one done to see what is happening - well, we still need to see whether the T4 in Armour is converting to T3.

luv - Sheila

Hi EveryoneI am posting my progress as i have found other progress messages very helpful and reassuring. I am now up to 2 1/2 grains over 6 weeks. i have had no ill effects apart from a few headaches the first week. Things of note aremy eyebrows are growingmy appetite has decreased and i am sure i am losing weight (dont want to get on the scales just yet)my carb cravings have gone i can now take it or leave it, like i used to.Bloating and swelling and puffiness have gone PMS symptoms have goneLumpy throat goneJoint pain and stiffness 80% betterMuscle weakness and pain 80% bettersleeping well.i am left with feeling cold energy low and dips (but even they don't last like they used to)All in all i am on the up with Armour!AliX

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(((Hugs))) Marie

No wonder you are shaken up, even with hearty healthy adrenals you

would be shocked.

Pamper yourself hon,

God bless

Dawnx

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila,

Ive join this website as suggested & spoke with Penny which was good.

What adrenal support should be taken. Will supplments help. I've been

taking Nutri Adrenal extract on & off but that was before I started

thyroxine 3 wks ago. Or would I need something from the Dr. like

cortisteroid?

Just taken adrenal supplement after something that Penny mentioned &

feel alittle better. Probably need to support both thyroid & adrenal

when you've been sick for along time.

Thanks for suggesting this website & sorry if I should of send a

seperate e-mail & not reply to this one. I'm still learning.

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Hi

Welcome to our forum and I hope you get all the help and support you need. I do appreciate that you are feeling very 'fragile' at the moment and not really up to typing and would appreciate being able to speak with anybody who could offer you some light at the end of the tunnel. Well, already you have made a lot of friends and at the risk of being 'snowed under' we have had offers from members who are happy to chat with you from Penny, Dawn, , Marie (Devon) and Deborah and if anybody else has tried to contact me and I have not mentioned you, apologies ;o)

If you let these people have your telephone number , this will give them an opportunity to call you and then you can call them back, to save their phone bill. We are a happy bunch on TPA and you will find that everybody does whatever they can to help each other. Most of us have been in the same boat as you , so we know exactly where you are coming from. Believe me, there is light at the end of the tunnel.

You should visit our FILES (from the Home Page of our Forum website) and read everything you can from there. Also, do both the Adrenal and Candida Questionnaire to see whether you have a problem in this area. Taking L-thyroxine for only 3 weeks will have little effect that will show, it takes up to 6 weeks to get properly into your body, so please be patient. However, it is important that you find out if you do have low adrenal reserve, because if you do, your L-thyroxine will not work. Also, you should have your ferritin (stored iron) level checked, because if you are short of iron, this too stops your thyroid hormone from working. Take one step at a time, don't take too much on board to start with or you will become completely confused.

When you respond to anybody's messages, it is usually best to delete most of the message you are responding to as people have already read that message. It is better, when changing the subject matter to start a new post. You will soon get the hang of it.

Luv - Sheila

Hi Sheila,Ive join this website as suggested & spoke with Penny which was good.What adrenal support should be taken. Will supplments help. I've been taking Nutri Adrenal extract on & off but that was before I started thyroxine 3 wks ago. Or would I need something from the Dr. like cortisteroid? Just taken adrenal supplement after something that Penny mentioned & feel alittle better. Probably need to support both thyroid & adrenal when you've been sick for along time. Thanks for suggesting this website & sorry if I should of send a seperate e-mail & not reply to this one. I'm still learning.Thanks

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Hi Sheila,

Thanks for your reply. I think this website as come & the right time. Felt like I want to end my life today before I spoke with you & penny. So thanks for saving my life.

I did have adrenal fatigue confirmed from saliva tested. I have been supporting them for over 2 years off & on but never supported thyroid till now. So might work better now.

Had lots of test including extense blood test. No iron defiency found. I take B complex vits & have been tested for candida via stool sample. No candida present. I am seeing an excellent nutritionist Barbara Oldham & she suggested I see Dr. Skinner cos she was convinced I'm was hypothyroid due to thyroid saliva test 528 normal range is between 0.17-0.42 ng/dl. She might I saved my life too.

Since taking my adrenal supplement at 3.30pm I feel warm a last. I was freezing before & joint & organ pain has eased abit. So looks like I need to keep supporting them.

Dr. Skinner said I can split my dose up i.e take 25mg am & 25mg pm. Then when on 75mg have 25mg 3 times a day same for 100mg then after been on 100mg for 3weeks & still not well I should go back to him for follow-up. He might be able to give me cortisteroid if I need to support my adrenals more. Hoping I can improve with that on my own. Sleep is what I need. Which is what I'm going to try & do now.

Maybe someone can phone me over the weekend 01491 613818. I'll phone them straight back.

Thanks for everything.

x

Re: Re: Progress on Armour

Hi

Welcome to our forum and I hope you get all the help and support you need. I do appreciate that you are feeling very 'fragile' at the moment and not really up to typing and would appreciate being able to speak with anybody who could offer you some light at the end of the tunnel. Well, already you have made a lot of friends and at the risk of being 'snowed under' we have had offers from members who are happy to chat with you from Penny, Dawn, , Marie (Devon) and Deborah and if anybody else has tried to contact me and I have not mentioned you, apologies ;o)

If you let these people have your telephone number , this will give them an opportunity to call you and then you can call them back, to save their phone bill. We are a happy bunch on TPA and you will find that everybody does whatever they can to help each other. Most of us have been in the same boat as you , so we know exactly where you are coming from. Believe me, there is light at the end of the tunnel.

You should visit our FILES (from the Home Page of our Forum website) and read everything you can from there. Also, do both the Adrenal and Candida Questionnaire to see whether you have a problem in this area. Taking L-thyroxine for only 3 weeks will have little effect that will show, it takes up to 6 weeks to get properly into your body, so please be patient. However, it is important that you find out if you do have low adrenal reserve, because if you do, your L-thyroxine will not work. Also, you should have your ferritin (stored iron) level checked, because if you are short of iron, this too stops your thyroid hormone from working. Take one step at a time, don't take too much on board to start with or you will become completely confused.

When you respond to anybody's messages, it is usually best to delete most of the message you are responding to as people have already read that message. It is better, when changing the subject matter to start a new post. You will soon get the hang of it.

Luv - Sheila

Hi Sheila,Ive join this website as suggested & spoke with Penny which was good.What adrenal support should be taken. Will supplments help. I've been taking Nutri Adrenal extract on & off but that was before I started thyroxine 3 wks ago. Or would I need something from the Dr. like cortisteroid? Just taken adrenal supplement after something that Penny mentioned & feel alittle better. Probably need to support both thyroid & adrenal when you've been sick for along time. Thanks for suggesting this website & sorry if I should of send a seperate e-mail & not reply to this one. I'm still learning.Thanks

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Hi

Welcome to my favourite forum for support and brilliant advice on our

rotton disease.

I am sorry to hear you were feeling like that, I can understand it

though, I have been there love, don't worry things will get better.

Slowly but surely.

I have been ill years and only just found this site this year, I

prayed for help and I believe this is how I was answered.

I think the adrenals are a massive part of what the docs are doing wrong.

I am so glad you are feeling a little, even a little better hon.

keep your chin up

God bless

Dawnx

[Guest guest]

>

> (((Hugs))) Marie

> No wonder you are shaken up, even with hearty healthy adrenals you

> would be shocked.

> Pamper yourself hon,

>

> God bless

> Dawnx

>

Thanks Dawn needed those hugs. Marie x

[Guest guest]

Hi Dawn,

Thanks for your reply.

I thought I was feeling better but as it turned out after taking nutri Adrenal extra I went into having a massive allergy attack. So no sleep again last night. Last time I slept was Wednesday so pretty knackered.

Looking at my candida spit test I done this morning looks like I still have that. But I cant understand why? I have been on an anti candida diet for 6 yrs no carb or sugar in mydiet. I take protiotics. Even started to have fermented food like nourish kefir for a bit. However i did stop drinking the kefir on 6th April. And it's funny how I did feel better the 1st week of taking thyroxine which was on 1st April. Was that because I was taking the kefir to support my digestive system I ask myself?

I've been racking my brian all night as to why I feel so awful again with allergies all the time.

2wks ago I have a choc muffin that when everything got worst. Have to see if I can get somemore Nourish Kefir then. There only very few health foods shop which sell it. Gone back to my juicing again with cucumber & garlic, so know kissing the old man today ha ha!

Was thinking of going to my GP for another Candida test. Not sure how accurate the spit test is. My Husband done it too & was positive & there is nothing wrong with him. Anyway, if I do have it I might have to take an antifungal but not sure I want to do that. Surely I can get rid of candida without that?

Thanks for your caring support & sorry if my spelling is bad, my head is a fog.

Take care

x

Re: Progress on Armour

Hi Welcome to my favourite forum for support and brilliant advice on ourrotton disease. I am sorry to hear you were feeling like that, I can understand itthough, I have been there love, don't worry things will get better.Slowly but surely. I have been ill years and only just found this site this year, Iprayed for help and I believe this is how I was answered.I think the adrenals are a massive part of what the docs are doing wrong.I am so glad you are feeling a little, even a little better hon. keep your chin upGod blessDawnx

[Guest guest]

Hi , Welcome!

So sorry to hear you've had a terrible night again. I know too well

what it's like not to sleep for days on end. I've had months where

I've hardly managed to get any quality sleep at all and boy is it a

killer. I end up hardly able to move as I have osteo-arthritis in my

neck and lower back too and I just cease up solid when I can't relax

properly! Doctors solution: antidepressants - ha ha ha ! No thanks!

(needless to say i have a new GP now!)

Anyway ... I was just wondering - what type of allergic reactions are

you having and do you think it was linked to taking the NAE or was

that a coincidence? When I started taking NAE about 7 weeks ago I had

a rather unusual reaction too (breathlessness, palpitations and major

sleep disturbance) after about a week of taking them, but I persevered

and all these sypmtoms went away and now I'm taking 4 a day (which I

slowly built up to). Not suggesting this is the same for you but was

just wondering if NAE could cause such a response so quickly. Did you

check all the contents of the tablets and see if there was anything in

them that you now you are allergic to? Were you ok on them before - I

think you mentioned you had taken them before?

With regards to the Candida glass spit test - I've had a strong

positive from that before, but the lab tests came back negative so I

really don't think you can use that in isolation. Do you have any

other signs of a re-infection that you know from experience are just

Candida related?

Best wishes,

x

>

> Hi Dawn,

>

> Thanks for your reply.

>

> I thought I was feeling better but as it turned out after taking

nutri Adrenal extra I went into having a massive allergy attack. So no

sleep again last night. Last time I slept was Wednesday so pretty

knackered.

>

> Looking at my candida spit test I done this morning looks like I

still have that. > Take care

>

> x

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks for your kind welcome & support.

I was bad before taken NAE however it did just top me over the edge. Yeh I've taken them before I always react bad. But I want to try & support my adrenal so I keep hoping I can tolerate them but I never can since Oct last year.

Can hypothyroid cause overwhelm IBS if so will i get better? I just taken Betaine HCL to see if that helps. Cant get any Nourish Kefir till Tuesday. But going to shop in oxford at 3pm when husband get home to get tempeh fermented tofu & shaukret which might help. I know when i was taking all 3 I felt alittle better & could tolerate other things. At the moment my system can not tolerate anything not even a cup of tea.

Not sure I am tolerating the thyroxine because of my IBS either.

How long with it take before IBS symptoms go?

Finding it too hard to cope today. Sorry for sound so down.

Thanks

x

Re: Progress on Armour

Hi , Welcome!So sorry to hear you've had a terrible night again. I know too well what it's like not to sleep for days on end. I've had months where I've hardly managed to get any quality sleep at all and boy is it a killer. I end up hardly able to move as I have osteo-arthritis in my neck and lower back too and I just cease up solid when I can't relax properly! Doctors solution: antidepressants - ha ha ha ! No thanks! (needless to say i have a new GP now!)Anyway ... I was just wondering - what type of allergic reactions are you having and do you think it was linked to taking the NAE or was that a coincidence? When I started taking NAE about 7 weeks ago I had a rather unusual reaction too (breathlessness, palpitations and major sleep disturbance) after about a week of taking them, but I persevered and all these sypmtoms went away and now I'm taking 4 a day (which I slowly built up

to). Not suggesting this is the same for you but was just wondering if NAE could cause such a response so quickly. Did you check all the contents of the tablets and see if there was anything in them that you now you are allergic to? Were you ok on them before - I think you mentioned you had taken them before?With regards to the Candida glass spit test - I've had a strong positive from that before, but the lab tests came back negative so I really don't think you can use that in isolation. Do you have any other signs of a re-infection that you know from experience are just Candida related?Best wishes, x>> Hi Dawn,> > Thanks

for your reply.> > I thought I was feeling better but as it turned out after taking nutri Adrenal extra I went into having a massive allergy attack. So no sleep again last night. Last time I slept was Wednesday so pretty knackered.> > Looking at my candida spit test I done this morning looks like I still have that. > Take care> > x

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Yep - it's a bad day today! Just got out of bed again myself!

Have you ever read Dr Peatfield's Book " Your Thyroid And How To Keep

It Healthy " ?

If not - I really think you would benefit from getting a copy -

either borrowing it from the library or buying it (depending on your

finances). This book will explain in easy to understand, but indepth

terms the miriad of problems associated with HypoT and HypoA and the

things you can do to set them right. It may not answer every single

question you have - but it will cover most of them and allow you to

build a much clearer picture of what is going on in your body. If you

can buy a copy all the better - as you will be able to refer to it

again and again (I for one have a very bad memory nowadays so there's

a limit to what I can hold in my head!!!).

In answer to your question, sadly I'm not sure anyone could

accurately advise how long your IBS will take to go as so many

factors can play a part. However, it is certainly one of the

conditions associated with properly unmanaged HypoT.

When you're feeling up to it, can you tell me a little about the

allergic reactions you are getting, particulary in relation to the

NAE, or are you referring mainly to an increase of your IBS symptoms?

It may help members of the forum to offer some advice.

Keep smiling, even just now and then ... it helps!

xx

>

> Hi ,

>

> Thanks for your kind welcome & support.

>

> I was bad before taken NAE however it did just top me over the

edge. Yeh I've taken them before I always react bad.

>

> How long with it take before IBS symptoms go?

>

> Finding it too hard to cope today. Sorry for sound so down.

> Thanks

>

> x

>

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Hi ,

I brough Dr. S book which is good reference material.

Anyway, I found what the problem was HURRAY! My liver was clogged up.

About an hour ago had some fast & be clear from Nutri link made by Allergy research. Now have my energy back & no pain. Phew what a relief.

Obviously my liver is very sluggish due to hypothyroid then?

I was taken milk thistle everyday 2 x2 per day but that obviously was not enough.

Sometime I do a coffee enema about 1 a month & that can help me too but have to take alot of protiotics after as well as loads of psyllium more than I usually do. Cos can upset the flora abit.

It funny all my stomach problems have eased now too. So all pain was due to my liver.

You would think I should know my body by now after being sick for 15 years.

I suppose when my thyroid starts working again my liver with hopefully detox better.

Isn’t live much better when you’re not in pain?

Still don’t want to chance taking NAE. Might try what I used to take (Adrenal support) from Metobolics. If you know of anything else I can take, be grateful if you could let me know.

In the meantime I will keep juicing, have a little good salt in my water & stick to a really healthy diet as usual.

Thanks loads & this is such a great website. Glad I found it.

x

Re: Progress on Armour

Hi ,Yep - it's a bad day today! Just got out of bed again myself!Have you ever read Dr Peatfield's Book "Your Thyroid And How To Keep It Healthy"?.___

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Hi ali,

Sounds great- but you're not quite there yet. You might get quite a

surprise when you get on the scales- I certainly did.

Subject: Re: Progress on Armour

Hi Everyone

i am left with

feeling cold

energy low and dips (but even they don't last like they used to)

All in all i am on the up with Armour!

Ali

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