RE: no saliva

July 28, 2006

First try this test and see how you rate.

http://www.thewayup.com/newsletters/081501.htm

--- monica <mcameli@...> wrote:

> Hi - I am a member at Natural Thyroid Hormones and posted today about

> attempting to do a saliva test through canary club and I didn't have a

> drop of saliva in my mouth this morning. I drink alot of water on a

> daily basis. I even had sliced lemons next to my bed to help. I

> couldn't produce a drop of saliva if my life depended on it!

> Somebody at the other group thought this may be a sign of low

> iodine. I don't know. That's why I'm here. Is it? I wonder if my

> other symptoms are related to low iodine. I am so sore, I cannot

> move; the fatigue is ridiculous, but when it's time to sleep, I cannot

> find a comfortable position and basically just re-position myself for

> the entire night, waking up exhausted; my concentration is terrible, I

> am depressed, on and on it goes. I have been on Armous thyroid for

> several months now, and am just at 3 grains.

> Any suggestions/help would be greatly appreciated!!

> Thanks alot -

>

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July 28, 2006

>From: " monica " <mcameli@...>

>Hi - I am a member at Natural Thyroid Hormones and posted today about

>attempting to do a saliva test through canary club and I didn't have a

>drop of saliva in my mouth this morning. I drink alot of water on a

>daily basis. I even had sliced lemons next to my bed to help. I

>couldn't produce a drop of saliva if my life depended on it!

> Somebody at the other group thought this may be a sign of low

>iodine.

Could be, but if you are on medications, particularly allergy meds, they can

cause dry mouth also.

All meds (not hormones) have side effects, some of them include dry mouth

and fatigue.

Skipper

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July 28, 2006

>

> First try this test and see how you rate.

>

> http://www.thewayup.com/newsletters/081501.htm

>

Thank you for the web site. I scored 32. I don't know if that is bad

or good. I have been taking Magnesium Taurate and recently ran out.

I also take a very good Calcium with C, B2, D, 200 mg.Magnesium Oxide,

Carbonate, Boron, Potassium and Mangenese.

My problems may have possibly worsened a tad when I ran out of the

other Magnesium that I take separately this week.

Looking forward to your responses......

July 28, 2006

Hi ,

I know we've talked about the importance of iodine to the salivary

glands on this list but I don't recall any particular references or

research. I did a quick search of the past messages and I think the

following are pretty interesting, talking about that relationship

(though I'm sure there are even more messages besides these): 3675,

3002, 2792, 2372. At least one person said they had a huge increase

in their saliva (which was good!) after starting iodine. Best wishes

to you,

Sharon

> Hi - I am a member at Natural Thyroid Hormones and posted today

about

> attempting to do a saliva test through canary club and I didn't

have a

> drop of saliva in my mouth this morning. I drink alot of water on

a

> daily basis. I even had sliced lemons next to my bed to help. I

> couldn't produce a drop of saliva if my life depended on it!

> Somebody at the other group thought this may be a sign of low

> iodine. I don't know. That's why I'm here. Is it? I wonder if

my

> other symptoms are related to low iodine. I am so sore, I cannot

> move; the fatigue is ridiculous, but when it's time to sleep, I

cannot

> find a comfortable position and basically just re-position myself

for

> the entire night, waking up exhausted; my concentration is

terrible, I

> am depressed, on and on it goes. I have been on Armous thyroid

for

> several months now, and am just at 3 grains.

> Any suggestions/help would be greatly appreciated!!

> Thanks alot -

>

July 28, 2006

lasky wrote:

> First try this test and see how you rate.

>

> http://www.thewayup.com/newsletters/081501.htm

>

> --- monica <mcameli@...> wrote:

>

>> Hi - I am a member at Natural Thyroid Hormones and posted today about

>> attempting to do a saliva test through canary club and I didn't have a

>> drop of saliva in my mouth this morning. I drink alot of water on a

>> daily basis. I even had sliced lemons next to my bed to help. I

>> couldn't produce a drop of saliva if my life depended on it!

>>

I used to have something like that ... when I would wake up my eyes were

glued shut, no tears, no saliva either. I'm pretty sure now that it was

the beginning of Sjogren's

syndrome, which also produces a lot of aches and pains. There are some

other things that can cause it too. Do you have any of the following

symptoms:

-- Canker sores

-- white spots on your fingernails

-- Bloating, diarrhea, constipation, gurgling, gas

-- nausea after meals

-- migraines

-- itchy skin

-- rosacea

Also drinking alcohol before you go to bed can lead to dry mouth

in the morning.

Some people seem to get relief by taking 1000 mg of vitamin C

before bedtime (vitamin C acts like an antihistamine, and histamine

might be what causes the symptoms).

-- Heidi

>>

July 28, 2006

We know that iodine helps hydrate the cells. So an existing dehydration is

lessened and I think

that the salivary glands are just use to being stuck on full throttle to keep

the mouth wet in the

dry body. I think the drooly condition would adjust itself. Keep in mind that

very few (10% ?)

of us experienced that side effect. However my urine PH went from acid to

perfect range after

dosing for 3 months. My body water scale says I am right in the range I am

supposed to be on a

regular basis...that is a big change.

I think that based on what you are saying that the saliva issue is a minor

problem compared to the

rest of the symptoms. Dehydration is possible even with drinking loads of water

if the water is

not absorbed into the cells. An interruption of the sodium potassium pump

(active transport) by a

mineral imbalance would cause you to become dehydrated. Constipation would also

become a problem.

http://www.brookscole.com/chemistry_d/templates/student_resources/shared_resourc\

es/animations/ion_pump/ionpump.html

Magnesium

Magnesium acts as a cofactor in more than 300 enzymatic reactions in the human

body and is

necessary for key body functions including nerve impulse transmission,

temperature regulation,

detoxification reactions, muscular activity, energy production and the synthesis

of DNA and RNA.

**** It helps sodium and potassium move across cell membranes and plays a part

in the metabolism

of proteins, carbohydrates and fats. ****

http://www.hsrmagazine.com/articles/521feat2.html

Magnesium Taurate seems to be a good type based on this article maybe better

than mg Glycinate,

but the oxide and carbonate are not very absorbable.

http://www.coldcure.com/html/dep.html#taurine

How much calcium and magnesium are you taking now?