Re: Re: just some thoughts

[Guest guest]

Tina, can my naturopath do the correct testing? Is there anything specific

I should ask for? The one test I had was showing that I was bottoming out

on progesterone and extremely high on estrogen. The hypopituitary is

something I was totally unaware of. It makes me wonder.

Thanks.

Lori

[Guest guest]

Tina, thank you for all the good information. I will be reading everything

while I have a little bit of spare time.

Lori

[Guest guest]

There is several ways to deal with the flu

echinea from a good supplier

drinking hot tea with fresh squeezed lemon juice (no sugar) while

taking a hot bath

for 3 days

make sure to drink lots of water especially if you have a fever

mixing a clove a garlic with 8 ounces of juice in a blender and

drinking it; can do this every day for life if you wanted to

all the above stimulates the immune system to take care of the flu

antibotics do not stimulate the immune system but tells your immune

system to go to sleep

and the antibotics may kill the virus/ bacteria in the short term

asprin suppresses a fever

orthodox medicine usually always instructs patients to suppress fevers

and your immune system by the advice they give

natural paths and Herbalists usually do not give advice to suppress a

fever they actually have treatments to create an artificial fever and

give water to stop dehydration during a fever

tina83862 wrote:

> Yes--wonderful post!!!!!

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> My daughter is seeing Dr. Kent Holtorf and he does this same thing

> for her (she is hypopituitary) and I know I should go see him myself.

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> http://www.fibroandfatigue.com/testimonials_holtorf.htm

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> meant to post this site yesterday--these clinics are all over if you

> do a search on them.

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> I have the flu so I am kind of out of it---of course researching

> ways to get over this asap!!!! First time I have had this in at

> least 10 years---oh well

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> > >>>Not many doctors know a thing about hormomes!!!!!!!!!! <<<

> >

> > Hi Tina and Lori,

> >

> > I've been 'listening in' on your conversations and couldn't agree

> more with

> > the statement above from personal experience and feeling like I

> kept hitting a

> > wall with mainstream docs on the topic of hormones. LOL However,

> this past

> > year, I found a holistic MD, about an hour from home, who does

> salivary and

> > blood testing for hormone levels. When I got the salivary testing

> done (which is

> > given to you as a pack to do at home on a given day), 10 days

> after mailing it

> > to the lab, I received a lab report outlining all the hormonal

> imbalances in

> > relation to my symptoms in an easy to understand format. The great

> part about

> > finding this doc is that he is qualified to prescribe and dispense

> > bio-identical hormones, which are plant-based and identical to the

> human body, unlike the

> > synthetic ones you get from regular docs that cause nasty side-

> effects. These

> > are also pharmacy compounded to suit individual needs, based on

> your test

> > results.

> >

> > Something new that is occurring here in the US is that the FDA is

> now

> > clamping down on internet companies and anyone selling or

> prescribing OTC hormone

> > therapies without medical qualifications. So, important to see a

> MD for this.

> > This, the FDA states, is largely due to the fact that claims being

> made by

> > suppliers of plant-based hormones (ie. preventing osteoporosis,

> heart disease, etc)

> > have not been verified by scientific trials and so they are

> considered

> > erroneous and dangerous advertising. Nor is it ever likely to have

> scientific trials

> > done on bio-identical hormones by drug companies, because

> medicines/remedies

> > found in nature can't be patented (so aren't profitable). This is

> something to

> > watch, for anyone using OTC hormone treatments, as it looks like

> these are

> > going to be regulated or even withdrawn in the very near future.

> >

> > The other thing I learned from my holistic MD is that there are 3

> types of

> > estrogen, all with different functions - estrone, estradiol and

> estriol. I'm not

> > all that knowledgeable about the three and their functions, but

> understand

> > that estrone is the one that causes fat deposits around the belly

> and thigh

> > areas in mid-life, as estradiol and estriol levels decline. This

> is why you can

> > still be estrogen dominant, but low on estradiol and estriol, lack

> of which can

> > cause all the perimenopausal symptoms, like night sweats, hot

> flashes,

> > migraines, palpitations, etc. So, while my holistic MD started me

> off slowly with

> > progesterone, he then later added a small dose of bi-estrogren

> (estradiol and

> > estrone) in capsule form. What he explained is that although I'm

> estrogen

> > dominant, all the hormones have a synergistic effect and must be

> in proper ratio to

> > one another. By self-medicating and just using OTC progesterone

> cream alone, a

> > few years back, I was just making myself feel worse, because the

> delicate

> > balance was disturbed causing increased symptoms, just as I think

> Tina described.

> > I also understand that lowest dose possible is best...and never to

> use

> > estrogen in any form without progesterone to balance it. Estrogen

> replacement also

> > apparently has the effect of lowering bad cholesterol and blood

> pressure. The

> > holistic doc also prescribed a product called DIM, which is made

> from

> > concentrated cruciferous vegetables (like broccoli) and this

> reduces all the effects of

> > " bad " estrogen-causing cancer.

> >

> > Anyhoo, I hope this doesn't sound too off-topic and I'm in no way

> an expert

> > on the subject...just wending my own way through this maze of mid-

> life and

> > learning as I go. However, for the women of the group, estrogen

> dominance in

> > mid-life is a recognized medical cause of gall stones. So, perhaps

> important, if

> > suffering from them, to consider this aspect of our health and

> uncover some of

> > the mystery around it for ourselves, because mainstream docs

> rarely look at

> > the holistic (whole) picture and we're all so unique during

> this " right of

> > passage " and really should be treated as such.

> >

> > Hope sharing my journey might help someone else.

> >

> > Peace, n

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