Re: Estrogen and Gallstones

[Guest guest]

Hi, I developed gallstones from taking estrogen for peri-menopause symptoms.

In addition to flushing my GB and eating more healthy to restore my GB and lose

the stones, I use Natural Progesterone cream to alleviate my symptoms of

hormonal imbalance. An excellent book to read in reference to this therapy is

Dr. R. Lee's book, What Your Doctor May Not Tell You about Menopause.

Dee Files

[Guest guest]

Hello, how do you know you contracted stones from a

estrogen creme??

--- " ladybug35@... " <ladybug35@...> wrote:

> Hi, I developed gallstones from taking estrogen

> for peri-menopause symptoms. In addition to flushing

> my GB and eating more healthy to restore my GB and

> lose the stones, I use Natural Progesterone cream to

> alleviate my symptoms of hormonal imbalance. An

> excellent book to read in reference to this therapy

> is Dr. R. Lee's book, What Your Doctor May Not

> Tell You about Menopause.

> Dee Files

>

>

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>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dee,

What is the name of the natural progesterone cream you use? Any

specific website?

G Murray

ladybug35@... wrote:

> Hi, I developed gallstones from taking estrogen for peri-menopause symptoms.

In addition to flushing my GB and eating more healthy to restore my GB and lose

the stones, I use Natural Progesterone cream to alleviate my symptoms of

hormonal imbalance. An excellent book to read in reference to this therapy is

Dr. R. Lee's book, What Your Doctor May Not Tell You about Menopause.

>Dee Files

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

-Progesterone will also cause gallstones--Not being balanced will

cause this with all the hormones---fyi

-- In gallstones , " ladybug35@j... " <ladybug35@j...>

wrote:

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> Hi, I developed gallstones from taking estrogen for peri-menopause

symptoms. In addition to flushing my GB and eating more healthy to

restore my GB and lose the stones, I use Natural Progesterone cream to

alleviate my symptoms of hormonal imbalance. An excellent book to read

in reference to this therapy is Dr. R. Lee's book, What Your

Doctor May Not Tell You about Menopause.

> Dee Files

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Tina for that footnote, Dr. Lee does teach that too much Progesterone is

not good.

Again, Balance is the key!

Dee

[Guest guest]

Hi Jay,

I wasn't using an estrogen cream, I was taking synthetic estrogen from my

doctor and after a few months of this I had my first GB attack, and my stones

were confirmed with a sonogram. My MD told me that estrogen can cause GB stones

and referred me to a surgeon for my GB to be removed. Needless to say, I

immediately stopped taking the estrogen. I also want to note that the estrogen

caused my cholesterol levels to soar, as well as Triglycerides.

Dee

[Guest guest]

taking progesterone will do the same-=---sad to say

--- In gallstones , " ladybug35@j... " <ladybug35@j...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Jay,

> I wasn't using an estrogen cream, I was taking synthetic estrogen

from my doctor and after a few months of this I had my first GB

attack, and my stones were confirmed with a sonogram. My MD told me

that estrogen can cause GB stones and referred me to a surgeon for

my GB to be removed. Needless to say, I immediately stopped taking

the estrogen. I also want to note that the estrogen caused my

cholesterol levels to soar, as well as Triglycerides.

> Dee

>

>

>

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Causes of Gallstones

Scientists believe cholesterol stones form when bile contains too

much cholesterol, too much bilirubin, or not enough bile salts, or

when the gallbladder does not empty as it should for some other

reason.

Pigment Stones

The cause of pigment stones is uncertain. They tend to develop in

people who have cirrhosis, biliary tract infections, and hereditary

blood disorders, such as sickle cell anemia, in which too much

bilirubin is formed.

Other Factors

It is believed that the mere presence of gallstones may cause more

gallstones to develop. However, other factors that contribute to

gallstones have been identified, especially for cholesterol stones.

Obesity. Obesity is a major risk factor for gallstones, especially

in women. A large clinical study showed that being even moderately

overweight increases the risk for developing gallstones. The most

likely reason is that obesity tends to reduce the amount of bile

salts in bile, resulting in more cholesterol. Obesity also decreases

gallbladder emptying.

Estrogen. Excess estrogen from pregnancy, hormone replacement

therapy, or birth control pills appears to increase cholesterol

levels in bile and decrease gallbladder movement, both of which can

lead to gallstones.

Ethnicity. Native Americans have a genetic predisposition to secrete

high levels of cholesterol in bile. In fact, they have the highest

rate of gallstones in the United States. A majority of Native

American men have gallstones by age 60. Among the Pima Indians of

Arizona, 70 percent of women have gallstones by age 30. Mexican

American men and women of all ages also have high rates of

gallstones.

Gender. Women between 20 and 60 years of age are twice as likely to

develop gallstones as men.

Age. People over age 60 are more likely to develop gallstones than

younger people.

Cholesterol-lowering drugs. Drugs that lower cholesterol levels in

blood actually increase the amount of cholesterol secreted in bile.

This in turn can increase the risk of gallstones.

Diabetes. People with diabetes generally have high levels of fatty

acids called triglycerides. These fatty acids increase the risk of

gallstones.

Rapid weight loss. As the body metabolizes fat during rapid weight

loss, it causes the liver to secrete extra cholesterol into bile,

which can cause gallstones.

Fasting. Fasting decreases gallbladder movement, causing the bile to

become overconcentrated with cholesterol, which can lead to

gallstones.

Who is at risk for gallstones?

women

people over age 60

Native Americans

Mexican Americans

overweight men and women

people who fast or lose a lot of weight quickly

pregnant women, women on hormone replacement therapy, and women who

use birth control pills

> >

> > Hi Jay,

> > I wasn't using an estrogen cream, I was taking synthetic

estrogen

> from my doctor and after a few months of this I had my first GB

> attack, and my stones were confirmed with a sonogram. My MD told

me

> that estrogen can cause GB stones and referred me to a surgeon for

> my GB to be removed. Needless to say, I immediately stopped

taking

> the estrogen. I also want to note that the estrogen caused my

> cholesterol levels to soar, as well as Triglycerides.

> > Dee

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Using (not taking) all natural progesterone cream has not caused any stones for

me, it has stopped the flashing and insomnia and a host of other personal issues

that are caused by hormonal imbalance going thru the change of life. I highly

recommend it for any lady who is plagued by symptoms and does not want to take

hormone replacement therapy.

Dee

[Guest guest]

My chiropractor said that since Dr. Lee pioneered this, more research has shown

that creams are not the best, as the stuff gets absorbed into the fat cells and

can build up in the long run. She said there are now sublinguals, but didn't

give me any more information. Anyone know about sublingual progesterone?

mrf

Quoting " ladybug35@... " <ladybug35@...>:

Thanks Tina for that footnote, Dr. Lee does teach that too much Progesterone

is not good.

Again, Balance is the key!

Dee

[Guest guest]

I do! I take sublingual progesterone when I get pg b/c my levels drop too

low to support a pg. They taste horrible and you can usually get them at a

specialty pharmacy but, I'm pretty sure you need a prescription.

Tara

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Subject: Re: Re: Estrogen and Gallstones

My chiropractor said that since Dr. Lee pioneered this, more research has

shown

that creams are not the best, as the stuff gets absorbed into the fat

cells and

can build up in the long run. She said there are now sublinguals, but

didn't

give me any more information. Anyone know about sublingual progesterone?

mrf

Quoting " ladybug35@... " <ladybug35@...>:

Thanks Tina for that footnote, Dr. Lee does teach that too much

Progesterone

is not good.

Again, Balance is the key!

Dee

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[Guest guest]

Well twice I have used the creams--and yes the exact one that Dr.

Lee recommends. And the first time overgrowth of the uterine lining.

So a few years passed by and I have cysts in my breast so I tried

progesterone again and from Jan. To June I now have stones.

after having super liver and lipid levels in Jan. it only took a few

months to have increased liver enzymes.

Now I don't know if I would say this unbalance of hormones is the

exact cause.

but it's the only thing that I was doing differently.

So I would suggest getting the correct hormone testing done to first

see if you are deficient in these hormones before anyone blindly

takes them.

I would have avoided a lot of grief, costs and pain.

our hormone system is one of extreme delicate balance and throwing

it off can produce all kinds of problems.

fyi--tina

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> My chiropractor said that since Dr. Lee pioneered this, more

research has shown

> that creams are not the best, as the stuff gets absorbed into the

fat cells and

> can build up in the long run. She said there are now sublinguals,

but didn't

> give me any more information. Anyone know about sublingual

progesterone?

>

> mrf

>

> Quoting " ladybug35@j... " <ladybug35@j...>:

>

>

>

>

>

> Thanks Tina for that footnote, Dr. Lee does teach that too much

Progesterone

> is not good.

>

> Again, Balance is the key!

>

> Dee

>