Is a Parasite Cleanse required?

[Guest guest]

I just had my first GB attack 2 days ago after weeks of not being able

to eat right (alot of colas and greasy foods) due to a busy schedule.

The ER did a quicky Ultrasound that showed a stone in there. I am told

to get a FORMAL US now and consult my doctor for possible GB removal.

Im interested in doing a cleanse but Im hesitant because I dont want to

wait a couple weeks to do the Parasite cleanse. If Im going to do a GB

cleanse I would like to start ASAP. Possibly before my FORMAL

Ultrasound is done.

Any help/advice is greatly appreciated.

[Guest guest]

Lots of people have had good success cleansing the gall bladder

without doing a parasite cleanse first. " If " you have parasites and

cleanse your gall bladder you may not get your stones out or may feel

sick after the cleanse for a day or two. If you don't have certain

parastites in certain places (ducts of your gall bladder and liver)

your flush will be fine. Hulda deals with very sick people who

tend to have the most parastites and she says to always do the

parastie cleanse first. Her experience says it's absolutely necessary

because all the people she deals with are VERY sick and full of parasites.

Go for it and cleanse is my advice as long as you use a cleanse which

uses epsom salts to loosen the ducts for easier stone passage. With

you already haveing had a gall bladder attack, that's the insurance

you need to get the stones out.

BTW, even if you get tested and they find no stones they will still

want to remove your gall bladder if your gall bladder is thickened or

slightly inflamed. You can heal your gall bladder if you are

committed to find out how and spend the time and energy to do so. If

they remove your gall bladder you will never get that opportunity.

Something to think about, but you must make up your own mind.

Later you can do a parasite cleanse and bowel cleanse. Changing your

diet and habits can be added in time also. Saving your gall bladder

has to be done immediately it sounds like.

Vince

--- In gallstones , " johniereb1861 " <ie1861@a...>

wrote:

>

> I just had my first GB attack 2 days ago after weeks of not being able

> to eat right (alot of colas and greasy foods) due to a busy schedule.

>

> The ER did a quicky Ultrasound that showed a stone in there. I am told

> to get a FORMAL US now and consult my doctor for possible GB removal.

>

> Im interested in doing a cleanse but Im hesitant because I dont want to

> wait a couple weeks to do the Parasite cleanse. If Im going to do a GB

> cleanse I would like to start ASAP. Possibly before my FORMAL

> Ultrasound is done.

>

> Any help/advice is greatly appreciated.

>

[Guest guest]

Ive been told I have multiple stones in my GB with the common bile

duct being 4mm. There was no mention of my GB being inflammed.

I am planning on doing the cleanse tomorrow and going from there. I

have been drinking apple juice as often as I can this week. I want

to get my GB healthy again. Do you have any recommendations on how I

can do so?

Thanks.

> >

> > I just had my first GB attack 2 days ago after weeks of not being

able

> > to eat right (alot of colas and greasy foods) due to a busy

schedule.

> >

> > The ER did a quicky Ultrasound that showed a stone in there. I

am told

> > to get a FORMAL US now and consult my doctor for possible GB

removal.

> >

> > Im interested in doing a cleanse but Im hesitant because I dont

want to

> > wait a couple weeks to do the Parasite cleanse. If Im going to

do a GB

> > cleanse I would like to start ASAP. Possibly before my FORMAL

> > Ultrasound is done.

> >

> > Any help/advice is greatly appreciated.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jonnie, Welcome to the list. Here's where I recommend you start:

Our list files:

gallstones/files/

Read " Dale info " first

Then, these two sites:

http://www.liverdoctor.com/

http://www.sensiblehealth.com/

Enjoy, and let us know of any specific questions you have. A lot of

people here have been where you are at. The archives are a great

resource also.

Best Regards,

Vince

--- In gallstones , " johniereb1861 " <ie1861@a...>

wrote:

>

> Ive been told I have multiple stones in my GB with the common bile

> duct being 4mm. There was no mention of my GB being inflammed.

>

> I am planning on doing the cleanse tomorrow and going from there. I

> have been drinking apple juice as often as I can this week. I want

> to get my GB healthy again. Do you have any recommendations on how I

> can do so?

>

> Thanks.

[Guest guest]

I did do Hulda s cleanse and I was surprised at the results. I

got probably at least 200 stones with about 20-30 being rather large

ones; under 1/2 " . My GB is still bothering me a little, Im just

having some discomfort, but I have to make the plunge to really

change my eating habits. I have had good days when I eat pretty

healthy and low fat.

I plan on continuing with the cleanse every 2 weeks until I get no

more stones. I hope it works. Does anyone know if you have to do 4

doses of Epsom salts? That seemed a little extreme to me and the

worst part of the cleanse..

> > >

> > > I just had my first GB attack 2 days ago after weeks of not

being

> able

> > > to eat right (alot of colas and greasy foods) due to a busy

> schedule.

> > >

> > > The ER did a quicky Ultrasound that showed a stone in there. I

> am told

> > > to get a FORMAL US now and consult my doctor for possible GB

> removal.

> > >

> > > Im interested in doing a cleanse but Im hesitant because I dont

> want to

> > > wait a couple weeks to do the Parasite cleanse. If Im going to

> do a GB

> > > cleanse I would like to start ASAP. Possibly before my FORMAL

> > > Ultrasound is done.

> > >

> > > Any help/advice is greatly appreciated.

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

might be a good idea to do more epsom salts you never know if you

have a stone caught if you still feel discomfort or pain. Many sites

will say if you feel funny after the cleanse repeat the epsom salts.

I know I did it myself.

I took one big teaspoon/tablespoon full in grapefruit juice and I do

use this when I feel pain as well. It does relieve it.

Congrats though!!!!!!!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > I just had my first GB attack 2 days ago after weeks of not

> being

> > able

> > > > to eat right (alot of colas and greasy foods) due to a busy

> > schedule.

> > > >

> > > > The ER did a quicky Ultrasound that showed a stone in

there. I

> > am told

> > > > to get a FORMAL US now and consult my doctor for possible GB

> > removal.

> > > >

> > > > Im interested in doing a cleanse but Im hesitant because I

dont

> > want to

> > > > wait a couple weeks to do the Parasite cleanse. If Im going

to

> > do a GB

> > > > cleanse I would like to start ASAP. Possibly before my

FORMAL

> > > > Ultrasound is done.

> > > >

> > > > Any help/advice is greatly appreciated.

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Sorry not too many questions and I will say this is just my

experiences I am really not GREAT at this at all. Still learning and

doing myself.

I had my first attack in June had a cat scan--yes I have stones--not

a total conjestion but have them.

I never had a fever or had to go to the hospital in terrible pain.

But what pain I had was like a apendix site pain--on the right side--

just a dull pain--not sharp.

that first month I could not even have one teaspoon of half and half

in my coffee--any kind of fat caused pain big time!!!!!And I lost

weight. I have mostly calicum based stones. My GB is most likely

due to low acid digestion not a high lipid levels (they are very

low) but eating fats will cause the GB to work and affect it's

production.

((Most people GB is due to high lipid profiles and others can be

calicum based. But fat effects both types.))

I did a flush it worked out well except I too did one cup of oil and

threw it up (half cup works out best)

And the lemon really didn't work for me as well.

Many sites say to try grapefruit instead and that works a great deal

better for me. ( I use the Ruby red kind)

and yes if I get an attack the epsom/grapefruit will cause it to go

away---it opens up the ducts.

I know I must do more flushes but life is really crazy for me just

moving--ect. ect.

And I have a hell of a time with the flush.

I have a hard time drinking the epsom salts and oil.

Been sick for the last month with a chest cold so that hasn't help

with me needing to do another flush!!!! (they say never do one if

you are sick) takes too much out of you!!!!!

and I am 47 years old. fyi

>

> > I took one big teaspoon/tablespoon full in grapefruit juice and

I do

> > use this when I feel pain as well. It does relieve it.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

make sure you rinse out your mouth with water--can cause your teeth

to have some problems---and it's really not something to do for the

fun of it!!!!!!

I only do it when I have no choice---

like going out to eat when I thought no fat was in the meal and I

got ill later on.

I don't suggest doing this unless you are in pain and can't do a

flush.

The flush is really want you want to be doing!!!!!! but you have to

do it right--

days of fruit and juice before--the more days before the better--

most sites say three days.

Do it specifically to the 's program---timing is vital

I have posted that info last week---

As for parasites I would increase garlic, onions and many of those

other suggestions a few weeks before the flush.

You can even drink garlic mixture--(garlic and water blended)

Veggies soups are a great idea as well --and juicing whole veggies

and fruits will help too!!!!

the key is to get rid of processed foods---no instant anything.

and homemade soup is easy---chicken (no skin), tomatoes, onions,

any kind of veggies, garlic---peppers--brown rice (one half of a

cup) (is good too) all in a pot--cook for two hours or so and eat!!!!

And beets are great for the liver/GB.

>

> > I took one big teaspoon/tablespoon full in grapefruit juice and

I do

> > use this when I feel pain as well. It does relieve it.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I looked garlic up once before on this site and it holds up well

being processed. You can also bake garlic whole. Here in CA many

eateries will bake it with a bit of olive oil and salt on top of a

whole bulb--they cut off the tops and drip the oil and salt down

into the cloves and bake them---best thing about this is that you

lose the pungent flavor and can eat the entire bulb!!

worlds healthest foods listed

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>

> > As for parasites I would increase garlic, onions and many of

those

> > other suggestions a few weeks before the flush.

>

> Is the minced garlic in jars at the grocery store any good for

this purpose?

>

> > Veggies soups are a great idea as well --and juicing whole

veggies

> > and fruits will help too!!!!

>

> I have once or twice a week, but usually make it with pork. Lots

of veggies and tomato juice.

>

> > And beets are great for the liver/GB.

>

> I love those. What are they supposed to do for you?

>

> Kathleen

>

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is difficult to believe how the hardy, crunchy often rough looking

exterior of raw beets can be transformed into something wonderfully

soft and buttery once they are cooked. While beets are available

throughout the year, their season runs from June through October

when the youngest, most tender beets are easiest to find.

Edible green leaves are attached to the tapered round or oblong root

portions that we know as beets. While we often think of beets having

a reddish-purple hue, some varieties are white, golden-yellow or

even rainbow colored. The sweet taste of beets reflects their high

sugar content making them an important raw material for the

production of refined sugar; they have the highest sugar content of

all vegetables, yet are very low in calories

Health Benefits

Description

History

How to Select and Store

How to Enjoy

Safety

Nutritional Profile

References

Health Benefits

Remember all those legendary Russian centenarians? Beets, frequently

consumed either pickled or in borscht, the traditional Russian soup,

may be one reason behind their long and healthy lives. These

colorful root vegetables contain powerful nutrient compounds that

help protect against heart disease, birth defects and certain

cancers, especially colon cancer.

Cancer Protection

The pigment that gives beets their rich, purple-crimson color--

betacyanin--is also a powerful cancer-fighting agent. Beets'

potential effectiveness against colon cancer, in particular, has

been demonstrated in several studies.

In one study, animals under the double stress of chemically induced

colon cancer and high cholesterol were divided into two groups. One

group received a diet high in beet fiber while the other group

served as a control. The beet fiber-fed animals rose to the

challenge by increasing their activity of two antioxidant enzymes in

the liver, glutathione peroxidase and glutathione-S-transferase. The

liver is the body's primary detoxification organ where toxic

substances are broken down and eliminated, a process that generates

a lot of free radicals. Glutathione peroxidase and are the

bodyguards for liver cells, protecting them from free radical

attack, so they can continue to protect us.

In other animal studies, scientists have noted that animals fed beet

fiber had an increase in their number of colonic CD8 cells--special

immune cells responsible for detecting and eliminating abnormal

cells. With the increased surveillance provided by these additional

CD8 cells, the animals in one of the studies given beet fiber had

fewer pre-cancerous changes.

In stomach cancer patients, when scientists compared the effects of

fruit and vegetable juices on the formation of nitrosamines--cancer-

causing compounds produced in the stomach from chemicals called

nitrates--beet juice was found to be a potent inhibitor of the cell

mutations caused by these compounds. Nitrates are commonly used as a

chemical preservative in processed meats. Next time you indulge in a

hot dog or bologna sandwich, safeguard your stomach by washing it

down with a healthy serving of beet juice!

Protection Against Heart Disease

In the first study mentioned above, not only did protective

antioxidant activity increase in the livers of beet fiber-fed

animals, but also their total cholesterol dropped 30%, their

triglycerides droppped 40% (elevated triglycerides, the form in

which fats are transported in the blood, are a significant risk

factor for cardiovascular disease), and their HDL (beneficial

cholesterol) level increased significantly. Protection against birth

defects: Beets are particularly rich in the B vitamin folate, which

is essential for normal tissue growth. Eating folate-rich foods is

especially important during pregnancy since without adequate folate,

the infant's spinal column does not develop properly, a condition

called neural tube defect. The daily requirement for folate is 400

micrograms. Just one cup of boiled, sliced beets contains 136

micrograms of folate--34% of the daily requirement.

Description

Both beets and chard are different varieties within the same plant

family--beta vulgaris--and their edible leaves share a resemblance

in both taste and texture. Attached to the beet's green leaves is a

round or oblong root, the part conjured up in most people's minds by

the word " beet. " Although typically a beautiful reddish-purple hue,

beets also come in varieties that feature white or golden roots. No

matter what their color, however, beet roots aren't as hardy as they

look; the smallest bruise or puncture will cause their red-purple

pigments, which contain beneficial flavonoids called anthycyanins,

to bleed, especially during cooking.

Beets' sweet taste reflects their high sugar content, which makes

beets an important source for the production of refined sugar. Raw

beet roots have a crunchy texture that turns soft and buttery when

they are cooked. Beet leaves have a lively, bitter taste similar to

chard. The main ingredient in the traditional eastern European soup,

borscht, beets are delicious eaten raw, but are more typically

cooked or pickled.

History

The wild beet, the ancestor of the beet with which we are familiar

today, is thought to have originated in prehistoric times in North

Africa and grew wild along Asian and European seashores. In these

earlier times, people exclusively ate the beet greens and not the

roots. The ancient Romans were one of the first civilizations to

cultivate beets to use their roots as food. The tribes that invaded

Rome were responsible for spreading beets throughout northern Europe

where they were first used for animal fodder and later for human

consumption becoming more popular in the 16th century.

Beets' value grew in the 19th century when it was discovered that

they were a concentrated source of sugar, and the first sugar

factory was built in Poland. When access to sugar cane was

restricted by the British, Napoleon decreed that the beet be used as

the primary source of sugar, catalyzing its popularity. Around this

time, beets were also first brought to the United States, where they

now flourish. Today the leading commercial producers of beets

include the United States, the Russian Federation, France, Poland,

France and Germany.

How to Select and Store

Choose small or medium-sized beets whose roots are firm, smooth-

skinned and deep in color. Smaller, younger beets may be so tender

that peeling won't be needed after they are cooked.

Avoid beets that have spots, bruises or soft, wet areas, all of

which indicate spoilage. Shriveled or flabby should also be avoided

as these are signs that the roots are aged, tough and fibrous.

While the quality of the greens does not reflect that of the roots,

if you are going to consume this very nutritious part of the plant,

look for greens that appear fresh, tender, and have a lively green

color.

Store beets unwashed in the refrigerator crisper where they will

keep for two to four weeks. Cut the majority of the greens and their

stems from the roots, so they do not pull away moisture away from

the root. Leave about two inches of the stem attached to prevent the

roots from " bleeding. " Store the unwashed greens in a separate

perforated plastic bag where they will keep fresh for about four

days.

Raw beets do not freeze well since they tend to become soft upon

thawing. Freezing cooked beets is fine; they'll retain their flavor

and texture.

How to Enjoy

Tips for Preparing Beets:

Cook beets lightly. Studies show beets' anti-cancer activity is

diminished by heat.

Don't peel beets until after cooking. When bruised or pierced, beets

bleed, losing some of their vibrant color and turning a duller

brownish red. To minimize bleeding, wash beets gently under cool

running water, taking care not to tear the skin--this tough outer

layer helps keep most of beets' pigments inside the vegetable. To

prevent bleeding when boiling beets, leave them whole with their

root ends and one inch of stem attached.

Beets' color can be modified during cooking. Adding an acidic

ingredient such as lemon juice or vinegar will brighten the color

while an alkaline substance such as baking soda will often cause

them to turn a deeper purple. Salt will blunt beets' color, so add

only at the end of cooking if needed.

Since beet juice can stain your skin, wearing kitchen gloves is a

good idea when handling beets. If your hands become stained during

the cleaning and cooking process, simply rubbing some lemon juice on

them will remove the stain.

A Few Quick Serving Ideas:

Simply grate raw beets for a delicious and colorful addition to

salads or decorative garnish for soups.

Add chunks of beet when roasting vegetables in the oven.

Serving homemade vegetable juice? A quarter of a beet will turn any

green drink into a sweet pink concoction, pleasing both the eyes and

the taste buds.

Healthy sauté beet greens with other braising greens such as chard

and mustard greens.

Marinate steamed beets in fresh lemon juice, olive oil, and fresh

herbs.

Safety

If you start to see red when you increase your consumption of beets,

don't be alarmed. You're just experiencing beeturia, or a red or

pink color to your urine or stool. No need to panic; the condition

is harmless.

Beets and Oxalates

Beet greens and, to a lesser extent the roots, contain oxalic acid.

Oxalates are naturally-occurring substances found in plants,

animals, and human beings. When oxalates become too concentrated in

body fluids, they can crystallize and cause health problems. For

this reason, individuals with already existing and untreated kidney

or gallbladder problems may want to avoid eating beets. Since

oxalates can also interfere with the absorption of calcium,

individuals trying to build their calcium status may also want to

avoid these foods, or if taking calcium supplements, may want to

take them several hours before or after eating beets or beet greens.

Nutritional Profile

Introduction to Food Rating System Chart

The following chart shows the nutrients for which this food is

either an excellent, very good or good source. Next to the nutrient

name you will find the following information: the amount of the

nutrient that is included in the noted serving of this food; the %

Daily Value (DV) that that amount represents (similar to other

information presented in the website, this DV is calculated for 25-

50 year old healthy woman); the nutrient density rating; and, the

food's World's Healthiest Foods Rating. Underneath the chart is a

table that summarizes how the ratings were devised. Read detailed

information on our Food and Recipe Rating System.

Beets, Boiled

1.00 cup

74.80 calories

Nutrient Amount DV

(%) Nutrient

Density World's Healthiest

Foods Rating

folate 136.00 mcg 34.0 8.2 excellent

manganese 0.55 mg 27.5 6.6 very good

potassium 518.50 mg 14.8 3.6 very good

dietary fiber 3.40 g 13.6 3.3 good

vitamin C 6.12 mg 10.2 2.5 good

magnesium 39.10 mg 9.8 2.4 good

tryptophan 0.03 g 9.4 2.3 good

iron 1.34 mg 7.4 1.8 good

copper 0.13 mg 6.5 1.6 good

phosphorus 64.60 mg 6.5 1.6 good

World's Healthiest

Foods Rating Rule

excellent DV>=75% OR Density>=7.6 AND DV>=10%

very good DV>=50% OR Density>=3.4 AND DV>=5%

good DV>=25% OR Density>=1.5 AND DV>=2.5%

In Depth Nutritional Profile for Beets

References

>

> > As for parasites I would increase garlic, onions and many of

those

> > other suggestions a few weeks before the flush.

>

> Is the minced garlic in jars at the grocery store any good for

this purpose?

>

> > Veggies soups are a great idea as well --and juicing whole

veggies

> > and fruits will help too!!!!

>

> I have once or twice a week, but usually make it with pork. Lots

of veggies and tomato juice.

>

> > And beets are great for the liver/GB.

>

> I love those. What are they supposed to do for you?

>

> Kathleen

>

[Guest guest]

From the catscan--it's in the report.

I always try and ask for a copy or I go and pick it up after it's

read.

Same for blood work---need to see your liver panel as well!!!

http://www.labtestsonline.org/

this site is super--it will give you details to what your lab work

is all about ect.

tina

Ps. Also in my lab report my lipid level is very low--almost too low

so the chances of it being cholesterol based stones was not

indicated. So you must look at other causes---fyi

>

> Tina,

> how do you know that your stones are calcium based?

> ne

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> Subject: Re: Is a Parasite Cleanse required?

>

>

> that first month I could not even have one teaspoon of half and

half

> in my coffee--any kind of fat caused pain big time!!!!!And I lost

> weight. I have mostly calicum based stones. My GB is most likely

> due to low acid digestion not a high lipid levels (they are very

> low) but eating fats will cause the GB to work and affect it's

> production.

>

> ((Most people GB is due to high lipid profiles and others can be

> calicum based. But fat effects both types.))

>