Re: Re: dull pain after both flushes....

December 16, 2005

How do you know when you've done enough flushes?

How do you know when you've had enough epsom salt and are about to " over-

dose " ? I know too much magnesium isn't good for you and epsom salt is magnesium

sulfate.

Kathleen

December 16, 2005

Right, thats why I think people should be careful about the recommendation of,

" hurry up and drink epsom salts to reduce pain! " . Especially someone for my

size, if I drank epsoms every time I felt pain, I would be drinking them all

day, every day, and probably wither to dust! lol

Belskis <brian0017@...> wrote

Drinking Epsom Salt to reduce pain is not a liver flush it is taking a

laxative.

Kathleen wrote:

> How do you know when you've done enough flushes?

>

> How do you know when you've had enough epsom salt and are about to " over-

> dose " ? I know too much magnesium isn't good for you and epsom salt is

> magnesium

> sulfate.

>

> Kathleen

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December 16, 2005

A liver flush is the entire procedure Hulda or similar gives to

remove gallstones.

It can be done once every 2 weeks and there are many opinions of how

often it should be done. If you have allergies they say you have to

remove 2000 stones to stop the allergy symptoms. Barry a

student of recommends at least 3 flushes for

everyone.

Drinking Epsom Salt to reduce pain is not a liver flush it is taking a

laxative.

Kathleen wrote:

> How do you know when you've done enough flushes?

>

> How do you know when you've had enough epsom salt and are about to " over-

> dose " ? I know too much magnesium isn't good for you and epsom salt is

> magnesium

> sulfate.

>

> Kathleen

>

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December 16, 2005

I have found people can be in pain for simple reasons as not drinking

enough water.

Another reason taking to many stimulants and the body is too worn out

to respond to them

this can be and usually is prescription drugs. (steroids, and antibotics)

From what I am reading about the liver by Henry G Bieler MD is that

when the liver is run down and worn out that going to a diet of low

starch low meat , high vegetable broth and fresh or frozen

vegetables restores the natural sodium to build good bile in the liver.

At the same time that means no high sugar pastries and such , little

meat, no coffee or soda , no artificial sweetners. Raw vegetables

may be too much for some people until they heal so vegetable soup is

good. particularly he seemed to suggest zuccini a lot. (that does

not mean fried zuccini in vegetable oil)

And sometimes not eating at all and resting is more important then

what you eat!

All his patients who took his advice showed much impoved recovery over

time

but it is not a quick fix like taking a blue pill.

Flour and refined wheat or sugar does not help a sick liver.

S. wrote:

> Right, thats why I think people should be careful about the

> recommendation of, " hurry up and drink epsom salts to reduce pain! " .

> Especially someone for my size, if I drank epsoms every time I felt

> pain, I would be drinking them all day, every day, and probably wither

> to dust! lol

>

> Belskis <brian0017@...> wrote

>

> Drinking Epsom Salt to reduce pain is not a liver flush it is taking a

> laxative.

>

> Kathleen wrote:

>

> > How do you know when you've done enough flushes?

> >

> > How do you know when you've had enough epsom salt and are about to

> " over-

> > dose " ? I know too much magnesium isn't good for you and epsom salt is

> > magnesium

> > sulfate.

> >

> > Kathleen

> >

> > Learn more from our experience, over 7.000 liver flush stories:

> > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=4

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> > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=112

> >

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> >

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December 17, 2005

My original question was " How do you know when you've had enough epsom salt

and are about to " over-dose " ? I already know it is a laxative. And I know that

too

much magnesium is not good for you. I want to know what is a safe level of

magnesium to be ingesting. Thank you for your input.

Kathleen

On 16 Dec 2005 at 8:39, Belskis wrote:

> A liver flush is the entire procedure Hulda or similar gives to

> remove gallstones.

> It can be done once every 2 weeks and there are many opinions of how

> often it should be done. If you have allergies they say you have to

> remove 2000 stones to stop the allergy symptoms. Barry a

> student of recommends at least 3 flushes for

> everyone.

>

> Drinking Epsom Salt to reduce pain is not a liver flush it is taking a

> laxative.

>

> Kathleen wrote:

>

> > How do you know when you've done enough flushes?

> >

> > How do you know when you've had enough epsom salt and are about to " over-

> > dose " ? I know too much magnesium isn't good for you and epsom salt is

> > magnesium

> > sulfate.

> >

> > Kathleen

December 17, 2005

No, I'm not confused about how epsom salt is used. Epsom salt has been around

for

many years and used as a laxative quite successfully and safely. I am just

wanting to

know how much magnesium we can ingest orally before putting ourselves in danger.

I know magnesium is something we need to be careful with. Too much or too little

aren't good. I haven't done any flushes yet. It has been about 30 years since I

had a

severe gall bladder attack. I've only recently started having mild attacks. I am

still

researching this to see if flushing is for me or not. I appreciate the time

you've taken

to answer my questions.

Kathleen

On 16 Dec 2005 at 23:09, Belskis wrote:

> Maybe you misunderstood that the epsom salt was to help with the

> flush and any discomfort during the flush, such as if there was a

> stone caught in the bile duct.

> but not to take it as a pain reliever daily after the flush. Epsom

> salt used in hulda clarks

> liver cleanse is to relax the liver ducts so stones can be removed.

>

December 17, 2005

Just a word of warning...

I've done three flushes now. The first two olive oil/lemon only - no epsom

salts. Last time I tried it with the Epsom salts. I spent a lot of time on

the toilet before even starting the oil. After the oil, I didn't have a bm

until the next morning. Got way less stones out this time.

The other two times, I didn't use the Epsom salts and it worked way better

for me. Got a few large (1 " ) stones out flush two.

I also ended up having an allergic reaction to the Epsom salts. I don't

know if it was the salts themselves or preservatives on them.

Amy

> No, I'm not confused about how epsom salt is used. Epsom salt has been

> around for

> many years and used as a laxative quite successfully and safely. I am just

> wanting to

> know how much magnesium we can ingest orally before putting ourselves in

> danger.

> I know magnesium is something we need to be careful with. Too much or too

> little

> aren't good. I haven't done any flushes yet. It has been about 30 years

> since I had a

> severe gall bladder attack. I've only recently started having mild

> attacks. I am still

> researching this to see if flushing is for me or not. I appreciate the

> time you've taken

> to answer my questions.

>

> Kathleen

December 17, 2005

here is the instructions from the epsom salt in my medicine cabinet

Used internally as a laxative

*Directions *Adults and childrn 12 years of age and older-

2 to 4 level teaspoons dissolved in a full glass(8 oz)

of Water. If needed depeat dosage in four hours Limit 2 doses per day

A small quantity of lemon juice may be added to improve taste

*Warning:* As with any drug if you are pregnant or nursing a baby, seek

the advice of a health professional before using this product. keep

out of reach of children. In case of accidental overdose, seek

professional assistance or contacta Poison Control Center immediately.

Do not use laxative products when abdominal pain nausea or vomiting

are present unless directed by a physician. If you have noticed a

sudden change in bowl habits that persist over a period of two weeks,

consult your physician before using a laxative product. Laxative

products should not be used for a period longer then one week unless

directed by a physician . Discontinue use and consult your physician

if you experience rectal bleeding or failure to havea bowel movement

after use of a laxative as these may indicate a serious condition. If

you kidney disease do not use this product accept under the

advice and supervision of a physician.

How did your first flush go ? You did not share your results

If your inflammed and it is not getting better after a liver flush

and a bland diet

then you should seek a physician if your not already doing so

Maybe you misunderstood that the epsom salt was to help with the

flush and any discomfort during the flush, such as if there was a

stone caught in the bile duct.

but not to take it as a pain reliever daily after the flush. Epsom

salt used in hulda clarks

liver cleanse is to relax the liver ducts so stones can be removed.

Kathleen wrote:

> My original question was " How do you know when you've had enough epsom

> salt

> and are about to " over-dose " ? I already know it is a laxative. And I

> know that too

> much magnesium is not good for you. I want to know what is a safe

> level of

> magnesium to be ingesting. Thank you for your input.

>

> Kathleen

>

> On 16 Dec 2005 at 8:39, Belskis wrote:

>

> > A liver flush is the entire procedure Hulda or similar gives

> to

> > remove gallstones.

> > It can be done once every 2 weeks and there are many opinions of how

> > often it should be done. If you have allergies they say you have

> to

> > remove 2000 stones to stop the allergy symptoms. Barry a

> > student of recommends at least 3 flushes for

> > everyone.

> >

> > Drinking Epsom Salt to reduce pain is not a liver flush it is

> taking a

> > laxative.

> >

> > Kathleen wrote:

> >

> > > How do you know when you've done enough flushes?

> > >

> > > How do you know when you've had enough epsom salt and are about to

> " over-

> > > dose " ? I know too much magnesium isn't good for you and epsom salt

> is

> > > magnesium

> > > sulfate.

> > >

> > > Kathleen

>

> Learn more from our experience, over 7.000 liver flush stories:

> http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=4

> http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=80

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> http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=112

>

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December 17, 2005

- I think you are getting Kathleen and I mixed up. I am the one who

recently did the flush for the first time, not Kathleen. I chose not to share

my results with the majority of the list. The flush got out some " green

things " , but I felt just as horrible on Monday as I did before I did the flush.

I will not be doing the flush again, but I am glad the so many others have found

great relief from them. Kathleen is asking specific questions about the

ingredients in the flush.

Belskis <brian0017@...> wrote: