Ok, which one's the culprit?

[Guest guest]

So I've been working so hard to be good with the diet, but tonight I had a

mini-attack - thankfully manageable with meds, and not requiring a visit

to the ER.

The attack came after I had peach sorbet, with bananas and maraschino

cherries.

Could it be the bananas? (gassy)

The sorbet? (sugary, plus the last ingredient is ascorbic acid)

The cherries? (more sugar, very mildly fermented)

Which do you think is likeliest to have caused it? I guess all three are

off the list for now. Sigh...

Geri

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/16/2005 7:53:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

gdw@... writes:

maraschino cherries.

Geri:

I have a much harder time digesting foods with chemicals than I do anything

else. I have always suspected (with no scientific backup other than gut

feelings) that is the reason many people report mayo being problematic -- as it

is

to me too.

I found my digestion was the best when I had simply made foods, preferably

organic or fresh (produce) not canned, not processed, and not prepared by

others -- ie baked goods, cookies, premade grocery store tuna, delis meat, etc.

As time went on and my liver detoxed I was able to have an occasional item

from the above list of no-no foods for me. Even occasionally mayo.

My vote is the cherries are the culprit.

(atlanta)

[Guest guest]

Geri, for me, it's also related to TIMING, I can't pig out late at

night anymore.

In the " good " old days I could eat a T-bone steak with fries at

midnight with no noticible effects. Now, I try to eat dinner around

6-7 pm and not later (with social exceptions!). If I eat late, I

double my nightly dose of enxymes, betaine and probiotics.

Sounds from you note you may have eaten this dessert later in

the evening which wouldn't work too good for me. I would also

go with the highly processed cherries as a good food to

ELIMINATE from the diet (food colorings are super carcinogens

too).

Will in Minnesota

[Guest guest]

HI group--I've been busy moving and have finally settled in--and

doing my third flush today--ugg I can't stand the epsom salts--that

is the toughest part for me!!!

But let me say during any kind of attack or pain all you need is to

down a good teaspoon of epsom salts (I take it with any juice) and

the pain can be relieved because you are opening up the ducts.---fyi

When I first got sick back in June--any kind of fat caused PAIN---

but now I am much better--the diet is some fat--not alot but I added

more fruit. So no more pain in the right side stomach area but still

back pain--thus the third flush.

When you eat something that causes the need for bile your

gallbaldder will try and expel that bile but when it's clogged with

stones---you will feel pain or an attack---pay attention to these

they are telling you do NOT eat this again!!!!

Until you get rid of the stones!!!!

I only have had one attack but a lot of back pain --I try and add

more juice, veggies , fruit and when I eat protein or a heavy meal

I'll take a good digestive enzyme---or HCL. That has helped A great

deal with allowing me to live a bit normal again.

But that also allows you to feel you can be normal again----which I

really should be flushing and sticking to fruit, veggies, oatmeal

and lean protein only.

anyway I hate this so much---hahhahahh--it's the epsom salts ---so

hard to get down.

well I hope I get rid of more of those stones!!!!!!!!!

tina

>

>

> So I've been working so hard to be good with the diet, but tonight

I had a

> mini-attack - thankfully manageable with meds, and not requiring a

visit

> to the ER.

>

> The attack came after I had peach sorbet, with bananas and

maraschino

> cherries.

>

> Could it be the bananas? (gassy)

> The sorbet? (sugary, plus the last ingredient is ascorbic acid)

> The cherries? (more sugar, very mildly fermented)

>

> Which do you think is likeliest to have caused it? I guess all

three are

> off the list for now. Sigh...

>

> Geri

>

>

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>

> Geri D. Weitzman, PhD Alternative Lifestyle Friendly

Psychotherapy

> Licensed Psychologist 1-415-517-7965 San Francisco -

Noe Valley

> CA License #PSY17963 www.numenor.org/~gdw/psychologist

>