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>>See if she will at least take some lecithin to help emulsify the oils

and digestive enzymes to at least get the most out of the food she

eats. Lecithin will help the liver not to produce so much bile to take

care of the oils.

So will Beta-TCP. It helped me for several years.

Susie

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Now that I'm reading all these replies to Kirsten, it's making me wonder

if a lot of my mom's current problems are due to the fact that she has

no gallbladder. She seems to have on-again, off-again problems with her

stomach/guts. She can't even always describe the problem, but it

results in her not eating (and getting too thin). She gets diarrhea,

bloat, etc.

mrf

ladybug35@... wrote:

> HI Kirsten,

> Of course our group is about saving your GB and restoring it's health

> and keeping it that way, but practically it makes more sense to try

> and save your Gallbladder. God did put it in your body for a reason

> and if you have it removed your body will have to compensate for that

> loss. I personally know several women who have had their gallbladders

> removed and they now have serious chronic disease related to the

> removal of their Gallbladders, if at all possible it would be a wise

> choice to try and save it by using cleansing and flushing methods.

> Dee

>

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Hi Dee,

Can you list some of the chronic illnesses that the people you know personally

have had as a result of removal of gall bladder.

Someone I know got diabetes after about 8 years. She also had clacification in

a shoulder joint. That resulted in total loss of movement in her arm. She had to

have surgery to remove calcium from that joint.

Thanks,

Jignesh.

" ladybug35@... " <ladybug35@...> wrote:

HI Kirsten,

Of course our group is about saving your GB and restoring it's health and

keeping it that way, but practically it makes more sense to try and save your

Gallbladder. God did put it in your body for a reason and if you have it removed

your body will have to compensate for that loss. I personally know several women

who have had their gallbladders removed and they now have serious chronic

disease related to the removal of their Gallbladders, if at all possible it

would be a wise choice to try and save it by using cleansing and flushing

methods.

Dee

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Hi ,

Classic symptoms. Like my last reply to Kirsten, diarrhea is my best

friend these days. I have had my GB out for at least 8 years now and it

has been a turmoltuous ride ever since with the digestive problems. It

has been a lot better since last simmer since I started with the liver

cleanses and the master cleanse fast. The only way to control the

diarrhea is to eliminate all traces of fat in the diet, that seems to

help me. But it is not conducive to pallatable eating. : (

G Murray

R. wrote:

>Now that I'm reading all these replies to Kirsten, it's making me wonder

>if a lot of my mom's current problems are due to the fact that she has

>no gallbladder. She seems to have on-again, off-again problems with her

>stomach/guts. She can't even always describe the problem, but it

>results in her not eating (and getting too thin). She gets diarrhea,

>bloat, etc.

>

>mrf

>

>ladybug35@... wrote:

>

>

>

>>HI Kirsten,

>>Of course our group is about saving your GB and restoring it's health

>>and keeping it that way, but practically it makes more sense to try

>>and save your Gallbladder. God did put it in your body for a reason

>>and if you have it removed your body will have to compensate for that

>>loss. I personally know several women who have had their gallbladders

>>removed and they now have serious chronic disease related to the

>>removal of their Gallbladders, if at all possible it would be a wise

>>choice to try and save it by using cleansing and flushing methods.

>>Dee

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

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My mom is very conservative medically speaking--and also quite evasive

about health issues. She is open in so many ways, but for some reason

she is secretive about health stuff. I thought she was oddly so when my

dad was dying. But she is the same way about her own health issues. I

don't know if she will listen to my suggestions. I'm sure she won't do

a gallbladder flush....

mrf

G & K Murray wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> Classic symptoms. Like my last reply to Kirsten, diarrhea is my best

> friend these days. I have had my GB out for at least 8 years now and it

> has been a turmoltuous ride ever since with the digestive problems. It

> has been a lot better since last simmer since I started with the liver

> cleanses and the master cleanse fast. The only way to control the

> diarrhea is to eliminate all traces of fat in the diet, that seems to

> help me. But it is not conducive to pallatable eating. : (

>

> G Murray

>

> R. wrote:

>

> >Now that I'm reading all these replies to Kirsten, it's making me wonder

> >if a lot of my mom's current problems are due to the fact that she has

> >no gallbladder. She seems to have on-again, off-again problems with her

> >stomach/guts. She can't even always describe the problem, but it

> >results in her not eating (and getting too thin). She gets diarrhea,

> >bloat, etc.

> >

> >mrf

> >

> >

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See if she will at least take some lecithin to help emulsify the oils

and digestive enzymes to at least get the most out of the food she

eats. Lecithin will help the liver not to produce so much bile to take

care of the oils.

G Murray

R. wrote:

>My mom is very conservative medically speaking--and also quite evasive

>about health issues. She is open in so many ways, but for some reason

>she is secretive about health stuff. I thought she was oddly so when my

>dad was dying. But she is the same way about her own health issues. I

>don't know if she will listen to my suggestions. I'm sure she won't do

>a gallbladder flush....

>

>mrf

>

>

>G & K Murray wrote:

>

>

>

>>Hi ,

>>

>>Classic symptoms. Like my last reply to Kirsten, diarrhea is my best

>>friend these days. I have had my GB out for at least 8 years now and it

>>has been a turmoltuous ride ever since with the digestive problems. It

>>has been a lot better since last simmer since I started with the liver

>>cleanses and the master cleanse fast. The only way to control the

>>diarrhea is to eliminate all traces of fat in the diet, that seems to

>>help me. But it is not conducive to pallatable eating. : (

>>

>>G Murray

>>

>> R. wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>>Now that I'm reading all these replies to Kirsten, it's making me wonder

>>>if a lot of my mom's current problems are due to the fact that she has

>>>no gallbladder. She seems to have on-again, off-again problems with her

>>>stomach/guts. She can't even always describe the problem, but it

>>>results in her not eating (and getting too thin). She gets diarrhea,

>>>bloat, etc.

>>>

>>>mrf

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>

>

>

>

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>http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=100

>http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=112

>

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>

>Liver Flush FAQ: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=73

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Will do. She doesn't really eat that much anymore. After my dad died

in April, 2004, she dropped to around 98 pounds. She is short, but we

were very concerned about the weight loss. She managed to get back up

to about 120 pounds, and she felt better, but now she's feeling yucky

again. This is complicated by depression. I think she has S.A.D.,

since this latest bout of depression started in October.

G & K Murray wrote:

> See if she will at least take some lecithin to help emulsify the oils

> and digestive enzymes to at least get the most out of the food she

> eats. Lecithin will help the liver not to produce so much bile to take

> care of the oils.

>

> G Murray

>

> R. wrote:

>

> >My mom is very conservative medically speaking--and also quite evasive

> >about health issues. She is open in so many ways, but for some reason

> >she is secretive about health stuff. I thought she was oddly so when my

> >dad was dying. But she is the same way about her own health issues. I

> >don't know if she will listen to my suggestions. I'm sure she won't do

> >a gallbladder flush....

> >

> >mrf

> >

>

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calcium in the joint could have been rubbed out by a compentent holistic

practitioner. I have had it done.

Jignesh Shah <jshah100@...> wrote: Hi Dee,

Can you list some of the chronic illnesses that the people you know

personally have had as a result of removal of gall bladder.

Someone I know got diabetes after about 8 years. She also had clacification

in a shoulder joint. That resulted in total loss of movement in her arm. She had

to have surgery to remove calcium from that joint.

Thanks,

Jignesh.

" ladybug35@... " <ladybug35@...> wrote:

HI Kirsten,

Of course our group is about saving your GB and restoring it's health and

keeping it that way, but practically it makes more sense to try and save your

Gallbladder. God did put it in your body for a reason and if you have it removed

your body will have to compensate for that loss. I personally know several women

who have had their gallbladders removed and they now have serious chronic

disease related to the removal of their Gallbladders, if at all possible it

would be a wise choice to try and save it by using cleansing and flushing

methods.

Dee

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Hi,

Diabetes is one of the problems both women I know developed after having the GB

removed and also digestive problems with chronic diarrhea. One of them started

suffering with pain in her joints.........the VA hospital diagnosed it as

arthritis.

Dee

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PS> I cannot remember the name of one of the digestive problems, but I do

remember my friend telling me she gets light-headed and sick sometimes when she

tries to eat. She also suffers with diarrhea this was after having her GB

removed.

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Diarrhea is actually a form of constipation the liver flush probably

gave the body a way to

deal with it and try to correct it. A Mucloid membrane that your

body is trying to disolve is the cause of the diarrhea. Best thing

would be to go on a juice diet and not try to get rid of the diarrhea

with suppressents. The body could not deal with this before the

liver condition was improved.

Arthritis is also caused by leaky gut or weak spots

in the intestines that allow toxins to enter the blood supply that

cause a toxic effect

on joints , this is caused by your own immune system attacking the

invaders of the joints

Hulda believes the invaders on your joints are parasites

The solution is to deal with the leaky gut or weak spots in your

intestines

This would stop toxins from entering your joints.

Both symptoms above are intestinal problems that came about after

liver condition was improved. Some ways to deal with intestinal

condition would be to do a intestinal flush

I used s shultz intestinal flush 1 and 2. If you have metal

in your mouth then you probably have metal in your intestines too

the intestinal flush number 2 deals with that but the long term solution

is to get the metal removed from your mouth.

For a period of 30 -40 days it is good to do a juice fast or at

least a vegetable and fruit diet only to speed along healing and that

along with the intestinal formulas will do wonders

to deal with the joint pain Hulda clark recommends a zapper,

otherwise you can take her clarkia tiniture to kill the parasites in

the joints.

Hulda also recommends not using propyl alcohol (rubbing

alcohol)or any products with it as an ingrediant because it allows

parasites to get in your blood supply through your intestinal walls

(causes leaky gut syndrome).

If you see how the pancrease , bilary tubes and liver and gallbladder

is connected

you can understand how diabetes is related to liver function and how

pancrease function is related to liver function. Here is what Hulda

says about Diabetes

http://curezone.com/clark/diabetes.asp

adybug35@... wrote:

>

> Hi,

> Diabetes is one of the problems both women I know developed after

> having the GB removed and also digestive problems with chronic

> diarrhea. One of them started suffering with pain in her

> joints.........the VA hospital diagnosed it as arthritis.

> Dee

>

>

>

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