epsom salts

[Guest guest]

I mix a little water and epsom salts with coconut oil and rub in on his

tummy. I didn't try the creme that was mentioned. I do this when he doesn't

get a bath. It must be absorbed. kelly

[Guest guest]

Dear Rogene:

You are right about hot baths or showers, my dermatologist said that is a no-no. I take warm showers and use non detergent body wash like Aveeno for the body and antibacterial soap for armpits.

Ahhhhhh, that coconut oil sounds heavenly. I love coconut smell.

A

[Guest guest]

epsom salts are found at target, drugs stores and maybe some grocery

stores???

Costs about two dollars or so.

It's usually used for muscle pain and people use it mixed with

bathwater.

YOU can blend it in a blender with juice or water. Cranberry works

well!!!

Hold your nose and drink it down!!!!!!!

this is what I do.

tina

[Guest guest]

>

> I've done probably 5 or so gall bladder flushes now, and I'm sick to death of

epsom salts. Once they literally made me sick to what felt like the point of

death.

What exactly do you mean? How did they make you sick?

I've done about 8 flushes myself, and although I also find the ES really bitter,

yukky and hard to take, it's never made me feel sick.

>

> I've been reading on curezone the reviews (positive and negative) given by

people on the flush with special reference to epsom salts, and I find a LOT of

people having trouble with them, sometimes what sounds like quite serious

trouble.

>

> In addition, I've read about a lot of people doing the flush either with

greatly reduced quantities of salt (one guy mentioned that Hulda's cleanse

exceeds the maximum safe amount given on the boxes by 4x)

Let's be clear about measurements and the math here, because the above is just

plain incorrect. Whoever mentioned such a figure must have either seriously

miscalculated, or else maybe they're talking about way more ES than is

recommended in Hulda 's protocol.

On the carton of epsom salt I have, it says an adult dose is 2-4 level

teaspoons, and that a maximum of 2 doses may be taken per day. So according to

the directions on the box, it's safe to take up to 8 teaspoons of ES a day.

's protocol calls for 4 tablespoons of dissolved epsom salt, taken in 4

divided doses - 2 the evening of the flush and 2 the next morning. This means

that if you follow the protocol, you'll be taking 2 tablespoons of ES on each

day.

One tablespoon equals approximately 3 teaspoons. (1 US teaspoon = 0.333333333 US

tablespoons.) Therefore when following 's protocol, the recommended dose

of 2 tablespoons each day equates to only 6 teaspoons of ES. So as you can see

when you do the math and convert the measurements properly, 's recommended

intake for ES per day is actually well within the recommendations listed on the

box.

or without it altogether and still flushing out their liver/gallbladder and

feeling better.

>

> As I understand it, the purpose of the epsom salt is to expand the bile ducts

to allow " large " stones easier passage, but since I've pretty conclusively

demonstrated that I have no such thing, I do not see any point in abusing myself

with epsom salt any longer.

>

There are other reasons to include ES in the flushing protocol besides just the

relaxation of the bile ducts. One of the most important of these is that the

ingestion of ES induces copious liquid stools, which cause the matter released

during a flush to be rapidly eliminated from the body. This is important,

because if given the opportunity, the body naturally reabsorbs via the digestive

tract much of the bile excreted by the liver/gall bladder. But during a flush,

the idea is to get all those released stones, bile, chaff and sludge OUT of the

body as quickly as possible, and drinking all that ES accomplishes this quite

effectively.

Here's a link with more information on the various different roles ES plays in a

flush:

http://curezone.com/blogs/fm.asp?i=985355

>

> It is the oil that causes the flush to occur, and therefore all that would

seem necessary would be any kind of laxative the next morning to clear out the

bowel. A standard salt cleanse would seem appropriate.

>

Personally, I wouldn't want to wait until the morning after a flush to use a

laxative. That would mean many hours would pass between the release of toxic

matter from drinking the oil, and the elimination of that crud, allowing all

that junk more time to stagnate in the gut and be reabsorbed through the

intestines back into the body.

> In any case, unless I see some compelling reason to continue ingesting the

whopping 1/4 cup of pure salt per clease, I plan to cease and desist and simply

practice the cleanse with a juice fast, oil, and simple salt cleanse the next

morning.

>

Another option would be to use magnesium citrate instead of ES (magnesium

sulfate) during the flush. There's a brand called Natural Calm, which is a

white powder that dissolves completely in hot water and has a very easy to

drink, quite pleasant citrusy taste. It also comes in lemon and raspberry

flavors. The best price I've found for it is at vitacost.com. IIRC, s

Moritz recommends mag citrate as a viable alternative to ES for liver flushes.

Other magnesium based products like Homozon, Colosan or Oxy-Powder might be some

other options worth looking into.

You might also consider including an enema or two the afternoon of the flush,

and another one (or two, preferably coffee enemas) the day after. Doing this

helps to expedite things even more, as well as magnifying the cleansing effect

of the flush.

Elan

[Guest guest]

here is a tip with epsom salts, they can be dehydrating. drink 1 cup of water

before you drink your epsom salt mixture, but wait 20 minutes after you drink

the epsom salt mixture before you drink water again. I have done the liver

cleanse about 12 times with the epsom salt and it is safe. no it is not fun,

but well worth the sacrifice, anything for prevention to prevent going to the

hospital

judykcleansingcoach

On Feb 25, 2010, at 8:18 AM, D wrote:

> I've done probably 5 or so gall bladder flushes now, and I'm sick to death of

epsom salts. Once they literally made me sick to what felt like the point of

death.

>

> I've been reading on curezone the reviews (positive and negative) given by

people on the flush with special reference to epsom salts, and I find a LOT of

people having trouble with them, sometimes what sounds like quite serious

trouble.

>

> In addition, I've read about a lot of people doing the flush either with

greatly reduced quantities of salt (one guy mentioned that Hulda's cleanse

exceeds the maximum safe amount given on the boxes by 4x) or without it

altogether and still flushing out their liver/gallbladder and feeling better.

>

> As I understand it, the purpose of the epsom salt is to expand the bile ducts

to allow " large " stones easier passage, but since I've pretty conclusively

demonstrated that I have no such thing, I do not see any point in abusing myself

with epsom salt any longer.

>

> It is the oil that causes the flush to occur, and therefore all that would

seem necessary would be any kind of laxative the next morning to clear out the

bowel. A standard salt cleanse would seem appropriate.

>

> In any case, unless I see some compelling reason to continue ingesting the

whopping 1/4 cup of pure salt per clease, I plan to cease and desist and simply

practice the cleanse with a juice fast, oil, and simple salt cleanse the next

morning.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you both for your very considerate input. I do plan to use magnesium

citrate from now on.

As for how the epsom salts make me feel bad... on the flush before last, not

only were the epsom salts INTENSELY nauseating (they are always extremely

revolting), but they made me feel deathly ill. I felt horribly nauseous all

night and after forcing down my third dose of salt in the morning I proceeded to

immediately puke it and anything else I had up repeatedly until I had nothing

left and kept dry heaving out my window for, well, long enough. It was a

horrible, horrible experience. I believe it was due to dehydration.

Here are a couple other people I found on Curezone's gallbladder flush survey

who had similar experiences with the salts:

" I was in the hospital for a day because taking 4 tablespoons of Epsom Salt made

me severely dehydrated and unbalanced my electrolytes (even though I did drink

plenty of water)... "

" I should have known drinking a half a cup of olive oil after epsom salts on an

empty stomach would make me sick as a dog. I really thought I was going to die.

Could not stop throwing up. Would not recommend, even to my worst ennemy! "

" I believe the epsom salts did some damage to me. I've sorted out the

constipation but now when I do the maintainence liver flushes I have lots of

problems and no stones come out... This is my only complaint about the liver

cleanse and believe something other than epsom salts should be used. "

You're right about the amount being " safe " , though. Two doses of epsom salt

capsules (which I used this last time) amount to 28.95 grams. The maximum dosage

for adults according to my box of salts is 30 grams. By volume, hulda has you

taking 6 teaspoons per 12 hours which is the maximum according to my box.

Nevertheless, my experience and the experiences of those above coupled with the

little, " Make sure you are able to tolerate Magnesium Sulfate (Epsom Salt)

before you attempt to consume 4 tablespoons. People unable to tolerate Magnesium

Sulfate may suffer negative reaction, even death. Several people died from the

results of Epsom Salt overdose. " warning message on curezone have made me more

than wary of them. Furthermore, even if they do not make me horribly sick, often

I will have strange achey feelings for days after taking them. This most recent

time they made many of my muscles feel lethargic and loose. This may well be

normal, but as I do not see these salts necessary in the first place, I will

dispense with in favor of what seem safer alternatives.

These are magnesium citrate (of which both one of you and a fellow in Curezone

speak very highly) and a normal salt cleanse because my experience has been that

a normal salt cleanse (something like a teaspoon of standard salt in a quart of

water taken on an empty stomach upon arising) is just as effective if not more

so at producing plenty of runny stool. In comparison with the epsom salts,

standard salt cleanses seem much, much faster as well.

[Guest guest]

,

As the Burger King people say: Have it YOUR way, have it your way!

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:18 AM, D <dcdietrich90@...> wrote:

>

>

> I've done probably 5 or so gall bladder flushes now, and I'm sick to death

> of epsom salts. Once they literally made me sick to what felt like the point

> of death.

>

> I've been reading on curezone the reviews (positive and negative) given by

> people on the flush with special reference to epsom salts, and I find a LOT

> of people having trouble with them, sometimes what sounds like quite serious

> trouble.

>

> In addition, I've read about a lot of people doing the flush either with

> greatly reduced quantities of salt (one guy mentioned that Hulda's cleanse

> exceeds the maximum safe amount given on the boxes by 4x) or without it

> altogether and still flushing out their liver/gallbladder and feeling

> better.

>

> As I understand it, the purpose of the epsom salt is to expand the bile

> ducts to allow " large " stones easier passage, but since I've pretty

> conclusively demonstrated that I have no such thing, I do not see any point

> in abusing myself with epsom salt any longer.

>

> It is the oil that causes the flush to occur, and therefore all that would

> seem necessary would be any kind of laxative the next morning to clear out

> the bowel. A standard salt cleanse would seem appropriate.

>

> In any case, unless I see some compelling reason to continue ingesting the

> whopping 1/4 cup of pure salt per clease, I plan to cease and desist and

> simply practice the cleanse with a juice fast, oil, and simple salt cleanse

> the next morning.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Thank you both for your very considerate input. I do plan to use magnesium

citrate from now on.

>

Sounds good!

> As for how the epsom salts make me feel bad... on the flush before last, not

only were the epsom salts INTENSELY nauseating (they are always extremely

revolting), but they made me feel deathly ill. I felt horribly nauseous all

night and after forcing down my third dose of salt in the morning I proceeded to

immediately puke it and anything else I had up repeatedly until I had nothing

left and kept dry heaving out my window for, well, long enough. It was a

horrible, horrible experience. I believe it was due to dehydration.

Oh dear! I'm so sorry you had to go through that. What a drag! Sounds just

wretched. :-(

In the future, if you feel any nausea while doing a flush you might try taking

either some peppermint and/or ginger to quell it. You can either munch on some

candied ginger, or make tea from fresh ginger or dried peppermint (there are

plenty of prepared mint teas available commercially) and sip on some warm tea to

help settle the tummy. Using either or both of these herbs is a very natural

and gentle yet effective way to relieve nausea.

It might also be helpful to squeeze the juice from wedge of lemon into each

glass of your drinking water and sip on that throughout the afternoon and

evening of the flush, as this will help to replenish electrolytes which will

help keep you better hydrated.

And again, doing an enema or two the day of the flush is a really good idea, as

one of the most common reasons nausea occurs during a flush is due to partially

digested food still remaining in the digestive tract.

On a few of my flushes I've taken a couple of doses of Homozon, (magnesium

oxide) one the night before and and another the morning of the flush day, in

order to really empty myself out before ingesting the epsom salt and

subsequently the oil mixture. In addition I also did an enema in the afternoon.

I remember one flush in particular when the only thing I ate the morning of the

flush was a grapefruit, and by the time evening came around and I had taken my

first dose of ES, I saw the remnants of that grapefruit passing out of my body,

so I knew for sure that my entire alimentary tract was clear.

Although taking Homozon prior to the actual flush meant spending a lot of extra

time in the loo, I felt no nausea whatsoever at any point during the flush, and

it made the whole process seem like even more of a really powerful, cleansing

purge.

Speaking of purging, I know that puking your guts out is absolutely miserable,

but in a way at the same time, that kind of experience can actually be

incredibly cleansing for the body. So even though you had a rough time of it,

I'll wager that in the end, that flush you did when you got so sick actually

ended up being a major detox for you on some level.

>

> Here are a couple other people I found on Curezone's gallbladder flush survey

who had similar experiences with the salts:

>

> " I was in the hospital for a day because taking 4 tablespoons of Epsom Salt

made me severely dehydrated and unbalanced my electrolytes (even though I did

drink plenty of water)... "

>

> " I should have known drinking a half a cup of olive oil after epsom salts on

an empty stomach would make me sick as a dog. I really thought I was going to

die. Could not stop throwing up. Would not recommend, even to my worst ennemy! "

>

> " I believe the epsom salts did some damage to me. I've sorted out the

constipation but now when I do the maintainence liver flushes I have lots of

problems and no stones come out... This is my only complaint about the liver

cleanse and believe something other than epsom salts should be used. "

>

I really wonder how many of these folks who experienced so much nausea during a

flush were dealing with some degree of constipation and/or had guts full of

partially digested food.

Good luck using the mag citrate. Please let us know how it goes if you feel to

share here,

Elan

[Guest guest]

should be very easy to find - might be called Magnesium sulfate MgSO4-

good luck

FB

On Mar 3, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Febul♥us wrote:

>

>

> I wish I knew whee to buy ES in the UK..

>

>

> >

> > I've done probably 5 or so gall bladder flushes now, and I'm sick to

> death of epsom salts. Once they literally made me sick to what felt like

> the point of death.

> >

> > I've been reading on curezone the reviews (positive and negative)

> given by people on the flush with special reference to epsom salts, and

> I find a LOT of people having trouble with them, sometimes what sounds

> like quite serious trouble.

> >

> > In addition, I've read about a lot of people doing the flush either

> with greatly reduced quantities of salt (one guy mentioned that Hulda's

> cleanse exceeds the maximum safe amount given on the boxes by 4x) or

> without it altogether and still flushing out their liver/gallbladder and

> feeling better.

> >

> > As I understand it, the purpose of the epsom salt is to expand the

> bile ducts to allow " large " stones easier passage, but since I've pretty

> conclusively demonstrated that I have no such thing, I do not see any

> point in abusing myself with epsom salt any longer.

> >

> > It is the oil that causes the flush to occur, and therefore all that

> would seem necessary would be any kind of laxative the next morning to

> clear out the bowel. A standard salt cleanse would seem appropriate.

> >

> > In any case, unless I see some compelling reason to continue ingesting

> the whopping 1/4 cup of pure salt per clease, I plan to cease and desist

> and simply practice the cleanse with a juice fast, oil, and simple salt

> cleanse the next morning.

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

>

>

> I wish I knew whee to buy ES in the UK..

>

>

>

>

>

Try here:

http://tinyurl.com/ygwwkk4 (ebay)

Or here:

http://tinyurl.com/yfp84ua (http://www.amazon.co.uk)