Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Friday, May 30, 2008, 4:19:24 AM, you wrote: > I have had my band for 13 mos. and have lost 14 lbs. I've exercies, > messure the food, almost at max on the fills, There is no max on fills. The band will hold more, by far, than any theoretical number. Not many people need more, but it can be done safely. > still endur throwing up, Either you have too much fill, or you're eating too fast, or you're not chewing adequately, or you're making bad food choices (things that can't be chewed enough), or some combination of those. These are the hardest things, learning to eat right. > total weight lost 14 lbs. The question is WHAT are you eating? And drinking? And how much? > I am so discouraged, I attenf our local > support group, and I feel like a fool other members who have had their > band as long as me , are at 65-100 lbs off. is there any one else out > there with the same problem? Tell us more, not only answers to above, but also your age, weight, goal weight, etc, etc. More info helps us to help you. dan -- " It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken in this life " Jon Bon Jovi Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Hi, Lynda - Just what Dan said - please give us more info so we can offer some suggestions. :-) but the first step will always be to return to your band surgeon for a full eval and fluoroscopy or upper GI. We must never be barfing often, and that can be the cause of many problems, and CAUSE many other problems. Please see your doc asap, and also give us a bit more info. In the meantime, until you see your doc (hopefully within a week), please have liquids only, and no solids at all. any blended hearty soup, proteon drink, thin puddings, lower-cal juices, etc are fine for now. sandy r > > I have had my band for 13 mos. and have lost 14 lbs. I've exercies, > messure the food, almost at max on the fills, still endur throwing up, > total weight lost 14 lbs. I am so discouraged, I attenf our local > support group, and I feel like a fool other members who have had their > band as long as me , are at 65-100 lbs off. is there any one else out > there with the same problem? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 I sympathize with you. I was banded in December 2007 and have only lost 25 pounds. I knew going in that it would be harder for me as I have insulin resistance, but I didn't know it would be this difficult. If any one has any input or ideas, I, too, would be interested in hearing them. @...: lyndasb@...: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:19:24 +0000Subject: weight lost I have had my band for 13 mos. and have lost 14 lbs. I've exercies, messure the food, almost at max on the fills, still endur throwing up, total weight lost 14 lbs. I am so discouraged, I attenf our local support group, and I feel like a fool other members who have had their band as long as me , are at 65-100 lbs off. is there any one else out there with the same problem? _________________________________________________________________ Make every e-mail and IM count. Join the i’m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ MakeCount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Hi, Pamela - welcome! I always wonder if people have been given enough preparation and teaching from their surgerons and staff to have reasonable expectations about the Band. First of all, the average loss with the band is 1-2 # a week, and this often does not begin in ernest until we have gotten to a good fill level. This can be several months worth of small monthly fills. Your 25# in 5-6 months is well within average, especially since you are likley not at an ideal fill lvel yet. but there are always many things we can do to improve things. how are you coming with these basics? 1. getting good, small fills? 2. learning and making much better food choices? 3. learning and meeting the nutritional needs re the daily amts of protein, fiber, good carbs, omega 3 oils, calcium? 4. working on the emoaional eating and food issues with a good therapist? 5. Getting good daily exercise, perhaps at a health club or exercise group? 6. avoiding allliquid calories, including juices, protein drinks, smoothies, etc? 7. Taking part in a in-person support group, and at he very least, an online support group? 8. Learning all you can about the band and it's needs? All these things are basics, but some go into banding thinking the band is all that is needed. there is no avoiding that band success can be some very hard work sometimes, but we still must make meeting band needs a top priority in our lives to do well. I 'm sure you have heard this before - that band is simply a tool to assist our own good efforts at weight loss. Wht does your surgeon say here? He/she should be giving you lots of written guideliens, lots of support and ongoing teaching, and regular followup. In addition, you might go thru the files and start to read the many patient education materials thre. start with the Band guide, that covers all the basic foo/eating/safety issues. You may find some things there you didn't know, or have been forgetting to do. then, please tell us more about your fills, doctor's aftercare program, your eating, any barfing or other trouble, band size and current fill anmount, fill history, etc Hopefully, we can help you identify some things that are sabotaging you. sandy > > I sympathize with you. I was banded in December 2007 and have only lost 25 pounds. I knew going in that it would be harder for me as I have insulin resistance, but I didn't know it would be this difficult. If any one has any input or ideas, I, too, would be interested in hearing them. > > > @...: lyndasb@...: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:19:24 +0000Subject: weight lost > > > > > I have had my band for 13 mos. and have lost 14 lbs. I've exercies, messure the food, almost at max on the fills, still endur throwing up, total weight lost 14 lbs. I am so discouraged, I attenf our local support group, and I feel like a fool other members who have had their band as long as me , are at 65-100 lbs off. is there any one else out there with the same problem? > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Make every e-mail and IM count. Join the i'm Initiative from Microsoft. > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ MakeCount > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 I will be sixty in june, before the band I was on type 2 diabetes meds, haven't had meds since dayafter band. lowered blood pressure, one pill instead of 2, 'no more sleep ape.I use to eat every thing, now I can't. most protein even chew well does'nt stay down, most veg. don't like now, no pop, water is stop one half hr. before meals, and I wait at least an hour or more before more lqs. and I have talked to my dr, and he does not think there is any thing wrong with the band. I have a little over 3 cc in it now, I feel like a late bloomer, right after the banding I had no problems, except for boardem eating after 8 pm at night. I'm trying to stop that habit, some days are good and some are not.I try to stay between 1-1200 cal aday. I don't excerise reg. but I do try and walk a couple of blocks on my lunch hr. thanks for reading my note. --- Dan Lester <honu@...> wrote: > Friday, May 30, 2008, 4:19:24 AM, you wrote: > > > I have had my band for 13 mos. and have lost 14 > lbs. I've exercies, > > messure the food, almost at max on the fills, > > There is no max on fills. The band will hold more, > by far, than any > theoretical number. Not many people need more, but > it can be done > safely. > > > still endur throwing up, > > Either you have too much fill, or you're eating too > fast, or you're > not chewing adequately, or you're making bad food > choices (things that > can't be chewed enough), or some combination of > those. These are the > hardest things, learning to eat right. > > > total weight lost 14 lbs. > > The question is WHAT are you eating? And drinking? > And how much? > > > I am so discouraged, I attenf our local > > support group, and I feel like a fool other > members who have had their > > band as long as me , are at 65-100 lbs off. is > there any one else out > > there with the same problem? > > Tell us more, not only answers to above, but also > your age, weight, > goal weight, etc, etc. More info helps us to help > you. > > dan > > > -- > " It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken > in this life " Jon Bon Jovi > Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk > Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana > Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for > almost 4 years > Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and > SmartLipo in Tijuana > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Thanks for more info ! a few suggestions - if you cannot keep down even well-chewed meat, you are likely too tight. with good fill that is not TOO much, we can eat nicely-prepared meat, chicken, fish and steamed veggies. Please go over the fill documents in the files to learn more about the definition of a good fill vs one too much. your calories seem way too low. ideal for the average women is 1200- 1500, neve less, and for those over 350-400# , more like 1800-2000. (Don't know your start weight or present weight) We are never trying to eat as little as possible, or as few calories. when the calories are too low, the body is threatened and refuses to lose. as a protection device. No reason at all not to drink right up to meal time. doing so helps wih eating, as the throat and mouth are moist and foods do not sticl. stopping fluids 30-60 mon before eating is bypass advice, and does not apply to bandsters. Also, have a cup of hot tea or hot ? righ before meals , to open and relax the stoma, until you can get a bit of fill out. Also, be sure to get the 80-100 oz a day of no-cal fluids. most bandsters are chronically dehydrated and this is harmful in a number of ways. Your walking counts as good exercise! good for you! :-) this is what I'd suggest now: 1. get a fluoro to be sure the band is in good position. sounds as if you have been barfing a lot, and this is never safe. 2. get some fill out! you're not able to eat well, and are not eating enough to lose. 3. work on food choices and eating technique. Avoid the foods known to cause trouble, and cook things in the bandster way. Be sure you're able to get the protein, fiber, cslcium, good carbs, good fats and oils, in. Losing weight is hardwork for te body and good nutrition is needed. 4. go over the info in the files to learn more about foods and eating technique. Sometimes, it's something very simple, like not starting with a PEA sized bite, and not chewing 15x per bite. We say " small bits " but sometimes don't say HOW small is required. 5. please stay in close touch here so we can help you 6. it's never good to eat within 2-3 hrs of bedtime, as this encourages reflux. this is dangerous. If needed, somthing that will go thru quickly, like a cip of yoguet, is ok 2 hrs before bedtime, but nothing any closetr than this. 7. be sure ou're not taking any meds right at bedtime - this can ause chronic gastitis nd reflux, both of whih cause damange and make it hard to get good food down. Take all 'bedtime " meds one hr before bedtime with afull glass of wateronly, thn no more to eat or drink until you are up in the morning. 8. If you have been unable to eat red meats, I'd suggest getting some blood tests. many women are becoming anemic without good iron sources. 9. are you taking ing a good daily chewble multi vit? All adults, banded or not, need this as a backup. remember, the scale is not the only measure of success, although actual pounds lost will come too. look at you - diabetes in remission, sleep apnea cuted, hypertension much improved!! This is GREAT success, and more will come. please stay in touch- sandy > > > > > I have had my band for 13 mos. and have lost 14 > > lbs. I've exercies, > > > messure the food, almost at max on the fills, > > > > There is no max on fills. The band will hold more, > > by far, than any > > theoretical number. Not many people need more, but > > it can be done > > safely. > > > > > still endur throwing up, > > > > Either you have too much fill, or you're eating too > > fast, or you're > > not chewing adequately, or you're making bad food > > choices (things that > > can't be chewed enough), or some combination of > > those. These are the > > hardest things, learning to eat right. > > > > > total weight lost 14 lbs. > > > > The question is WHAT are you eating? And drinking? > > And how much? > > > > > I am so discouraged, I attenf our local > > > support group, and I feel like a fool other > > members who have had their > > > band as long as me , are at 65-100 lbs off. is > > there any one else out > > > there with the same problem? > > > > Tell us more, not only answers to above, but also > > your age, weight, > > goal weight, etc, etc. More info helps us to help > > you. > > > > dan > > > > > > -- > > " It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken > > in this life " Jon Bon Jovi > > Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk > > Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana > > Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for > > almost 4 years > > Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and > > SmartLipo in Tijuana > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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