Guest guest Posted September 25, 2005 Report Share Posted September 25, 2005 I was wondering if anyone has knowledge about hydrochloric acid in the stomach and if there are certain foods that increase this substance. A deficiency in hydrochloric acid was listed as one of the reasons contributing to gallstones and I think that may be my problem (several years on the raw vegan diet may have exacerbated this problem -- I know my attacks increased dramatically during this time although it could be a coincidence). For that matter, has anyone expelled all of their gallstones only to have this problem pretty much correct itself. Thanks! Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2005 Report Share Posted September 25, 2005 bitter green herbs and vegetables; hence angostura bitters in your manhattan before dinner. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lori <mailto:skydanse@...> gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 12:56 PM Subject: Question about HCL I was wondering if anyone has knowledge about hydrochloric acid in the stomach and if there are certain foods that increase this substance. A deficiency in hydrochloric acid was listed as one of the reasons contributing to gallstones and I think that may be my problem (several years on the raw vegan diet may have exacerbated this problem -- I know my attacks increased dramatically during this time although it could be a coincidence). For that matter, has anyone expelled all of their gallstones only to have this problem pretty much correct itself. Thanks! Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2005 Report Share Posted September 25, 2005 In a message dated 9/25/2005 4:10:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wholehealthawareness@... writes: bitter green herbs and vegetables; hence angostura bitters in your manhattan before dinner. Dave are you saying that the above items will increase the HCL in your stomach? IF so that will explain why it settles my stomach (not the manhattan, just the bitters in water) so readily. I have never responded well to HCL tablets so it this is a list of alternatives that would be terrific. Thanks, (atlanta) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2005 Report Share Posted September 25, 2005 In a message dated 9/25/2005 8:27:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, skydanse@... writes: so I've not seen Angostura bitters. I'll have to check out stores up here. Its in the grocery store in the baking section or the drinks section. ITs a common ingredient in the stores and only one brand. There is another bitters -- its Jamacian I think and a different recipe. Angustora is an old European degestif. They drink a little in water after meals. Happy hunting. (atlanta) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Yeah, and the Manhattan doesn't sound too bad either. I've lived a sheltered life in recent years (the joys of Utah, although I am actually from country, Marietta, Georgia) so I've not seen Angostura bitters. I'll have to check out stores up here. Lori Park City, Utah ----- Original Message ----- From: mackarmstr@... gallstones Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Question about HCL In a message dated 9/25/2005 4:10:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wholehealthawareness@... writes: bitter green herbs and vegetables; hence angostura bitters in your manhattan before dinner. Dave are you saying that the above items will increase the HCL in your stomach? IF so that will explain why it settles my stomach (not the manhattan, just the bitters in water) so readily. I have never responded well to HCL tablets so it this is a list of alternatives that would be terrific. Thanks, (atlanta) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 vinegar - take a spoonful...also on salads with vinegar and olive oil dressing...enjoy. --- Lori <skydanse@...> wrote: > I was wondering if anyone has knowledge about > hydrochloric acid in the stomach and if there are > certain foods that increase this substance. A > deficiency in hydrochloric acid was listed as one of > the reasons contributing to gallstones and I think > that may be my problem (several years on the raw > vegan diet may have exacerbated this problem -- I > know my attacks increased dramatically during this > time although it could be a coincidence). > > For that matter, has anyone expelled all of their > gallstones only to have this problem pretty much > correct itself. > > Thanks! > > Lori > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 All bitter herbs stimulate digestive processes including HCL and bile. This is why most of the detoxifying liver/gallbladder herbs are bitter and cold. The " chinese bitters " that chang sells are a good example. Any bitters will work, Swedish, Jamaican, Chinese, etc. Angostura bitters were named for the angostura bark from the Caribean (Jamaica) that were originally in them. There is no longer any angostura due to toxicity of that particular herb, the main bitter being gentian (most bitter herb on the planet). ----- Original Message ----- From: mackarmstr@...<mailto:mackarmstr@...> gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 5:09 PM Subject: Re: Question about HCL In a message dated 9/25/2005 4:10:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wholehealthawareness@...<mailto:wholehealthawareness@...> writes: bitter green herbs and vegetables; hence angostura bitters in your manhattan before dinner. Dave are you saying that the above items will increase the HCL in your stomach? IF so that will explain why it settles my stomach (not the manhattan, just the bitters in water) so readily. I have never responded well to HCL tablets so it this is a list of alternatives that would be terrific. Thanks, (atlanta) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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