Re: Still feel hypoT. Confused about Armour andisocort dosing

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You do seem to be on a lot of Isocort - though I must admit to not having very much knowledge about this. I would think a call to Dr Peatfield when he gets back home (he is away at clinics for the next couple of weeks) Jonny. You should remember that being on thyroxine for 4 weeks and then starting on 2 grains of Armour that you still had thyroxine in your body, and you might have upset the balance somewhat. Not sure what is happening, but are you sure you have cleared away any Candida Albicans. I was talking to Becky from mercurymadensss website today and she has sent me a paper showing the massive connection between mercury and hypothyroidism - and anybody will amalgam fillings (and possibly their Mother having had amalgam fillings when she was pregnant would pass this on to her baby. This is quite frightening - something I honestly didn't know before, but it appears that mercury can actually be a CAUSE of hypothyroidism. It also stops thyroid hormone from being utilised by the body. I hope to sort this out tomorrow and post it in our files and also put it on our website. Be patient. We are learning more every day.

If you do feel you might have a mercury problem Jonny and you have amalgam fillings please contact Becky at info@...

Luv - Sheila

Still feel hypoT. Confused about Armour andisocort dosing

Im now on 3 grains of Armour but looking maybe Iv gone up too quick? Iran out of Armour a while ago and wentback to thyroxine for about amonth. I restarted Armour again about a month ago and started on 2grains (WhenI was on armour the first time I was on 1 and Dr Peatfieldsaid I should go up to 2) Now its 4 weeks later and Im on 3 andthinking about going up to 3 1/4? I feel hypo still. Is this ok?Ive been getting the muscle aches that I used to get on thyroxine.carrying the shopping back from the supermarket made my arms achequite a bit. had to keep changing which hand the shopping was in. Andtoday I had a coffee and didnt eat lunch, and got so cold. My handswere freezing, and putting them in my pockets just made them clammy,but still cold lol.Im on 8 isocort per day. When I first went onto isocort I had thyroiddump straight away, and have felt hypoT since. What reasons could Istill be hypothyroid? Not enough Armour obviously, but does having toomuch or too little cortisol cause it either?I think I read too much cortisol can cause too much RT3? whih willmake you feel hypoT?ThanksJonny

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Hi jonny,

Messing around with meds can set you back quite a bit- I know you

had no choice in the circumstances. As to RT3 if you are getting enough T3

in your meds- Armour- then this shouldn't be a problem. But, if you're like

me then there is too much T4 in Armour and I needed to cut back from 4

grains to 3 and replace with T3- took about 3 weeks for the stiff joints to

ease, but I haven't had it back since. Can you phone Dr. P?

Subject: Still feel hypoT. Confused about Armour

andisocort dosing

Im now on 3 grains of Armour but looking maybe Iv gone up too quick?

Ive been getting the muscle aches that I used to get on thyroxine.

carrying the shopping back from the supermarket made my arms ache

quite a bit. had to keep changing which hand the shopping was in. And

today I had a coffee and didnt eat lunch, and got so cold. My hands

were freezing, and putting them in my pockets just made them clammy,

but still cold lol.

I think I read too much cortisol can cause too much RT3? whih will

make you feel hypoT?

Thanks

Jonny

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[Guest guest]

Yer iv been trying to phone him for ages now. I had a phone

appointment last wednesday, but kept phoning and it was always

engaged. been trying every day pretty much. When will he be back to

answer phone calls?

If i drop down from 8 isocort to say 6, could this possibly help? Im

jut thinking 8 isocort is as much as you should take, so maybe Im too

high if Im getting hypo still? My hands right now are freezing and

they havnt been like that for a few weeks now (apart from yesterday too).

Is getting cold just a thyroid symptom or adrenal too?

could it be because of the thyroid dump I had a few weeks ago

depleting all my T4, to now theres not much T3 being made?

Its all so complicated lol

Jonny

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interestingly, im cold, but my pulse is about 88?

Is high pulse, but low temp indicative of anything?

Jonny

[Guest guest]

Could it be that there isnt enough cortisol for the 3 grains of Armour

Im on? So if I either dropped the Armour or Increased the isocort I

would feel better?

Jonny

[Guest guest]

He has clinics for the next couple of weeks I understand Jonny. What you do when you need to speak with Dr Peatfield and his phone is engaged, You get a message to ask if you would like to use "call back". you then press 5 (after yhou have been instructed to do so by the operator) and once he has finished his call and the phone is free, his phone automatically rings and so does yours, so you get to speak with him that way.

I can't answer your question about Isocort for you. When people are treating themselves, quite often, you have to try the experiment. If this was me, I would certainly be thinking of cutting back on the Isocort. Remind me again of your cortisol and DHEA status when you had the 24 hour adrenal salivary profile? Please don't try anything else until you have managed to have a word with Dr Peatfield because you do seem to be chopping and changing a lot since you had to go back onto thyroxine. We really need some blood results to see what they show, it might be that you are a candidate for T3 only as you might have a 'thyroid block'. I am aware I am not being much help with this, but feel you need some professional guidance here Jonny.

Luv - Sheila

If i drop down from 8 isocort to say 6, could this possibly help? Imjut thinking 8 isocort is as much as you should take, so maybe Im toohigh if Im getting hypo still? My hands right now are freezing andthey havnt been like that for a few weeks now (apart from yesterday too). Is getting cold just a thyroid symptom or adrenal too?could it be because of the thyroid dump I had a few weeks agodepleting all my T4, to now theres not much T3 being made?Its all so complicated lolJonny

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[Guest guest]

There is 2.5 mg cortisol in each pellet and therefore 20 mg

altogether in your dose. This may be too much or not enough depending

on your adrenal saliva labs?

What did they indicate?

Mo

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[Guest guest]

High pulse could be too much thyroid hormone OR pooling of thyroid

hormone from insufficient adrenal support.

What is your basal temp? You say low but how low?

And is the high pulse a new thing?

Mo

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> interestingly, im cold, but my pulse is about 88?

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> Is high pulse, but low temp indicative of anything?

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> Jonny

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[Guest guest]

Very likely one or the other I would have thought BUT

you can find out for sure by tracking your temps. as per www.drrind.com

and if the daily averages are unstable then you need more adrenal

support. Take the temps three times a day for five days for a clear

indication of where to go from here.

Mo

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> Could it be that there isnt enough cortisol for the 3 grains of Armour

> Im on? So if I either dropped the Armour or Increased the isocort I

> would feel better?

>

> Jonny

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[Guest guest]

Hi jonny,

Low temp low thyroid. High pulse could be reaction to adrenalin

in the nutri- I couldn't use it for that reason- try isocort?

Subject: Re: Still feel hypoT. Confused about

Armour andisocort dosing

interestingly, im cold, but my pulse is about 88?

Is high pulse, but low temp indicative of anything?

Jonny

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Messages are not a substitute for professional medical advice. Always

consult with a suitably qualified practitioner before changing

medication.

[Guest guest]

yer the high pulse is a new thing. Before I started the Armour and

isocort, my pulse was about 50-55. right now its 76, which is ok.

Why was my pulse high, but I felt hypothyroid and was cold?

is basal the one when you wake up in the morning? for the past few

days its been 36.5, 36.1, 36.3, 36.5. Sometimes I wake up in the

morning but go back to sleep again tho cos Im lazy, so would this

affect them at all on those days?

Is it possible that 8 isocort isn't enough? When I saw Dr Peatfield

beginning of March, he said that my adrenals were ok according to my

blood pressure. Iv also been trying to take my temp at 3 time during

the day, as well as the morming temp. Although I forget half the time

to take it, when I do they seem pretty consistent. My temps at around

12 are all 36.6 or 36.5 and the same for the temps at 3.00 and 6.00. I

know you are supposed to take the average of all three, but I don't

know how much this will mean for me when I randomly miss taking my temp.

Thanks

Jonny