Re: Goat milk vs cow's milk

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--- Dave Shelden <wholehealthawareness@...> wrote:

> Hi Sue,

>

> There is no guarantee that any particular flush

> will be successful in removing any or all of the

> detritus in either your liver or gallbladder. Many

> people perform 10 or more flushes before success. I

> know I am going to stir up great debate, but the

> jury is still out on what those soft green " stones "

> really are. Suffice to say that the flushes ability

> to stimulate both the flow of bile from the liver

> and emittion from the gallbladder is very

> detoxifying at the least. Pain in the

> liver/gallbladder region may happen from a number of

> reasons, gallstones or sludge being just one of

> them. The program is essentially the same no matter

> what: cease harm, protect, lubricate, detox,

> rebuild, support; not necessarily in that order.

> Thank God the liver is as regenerative as it is.

> Keep up the faith and hard work. Always, in all

> ways, -Dave

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Sue<mailto:suemy4@...>

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> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 5:24 PM

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> Hello.

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> I have been having occasional sharp pains on my

> right side, about 3

> to

> 4 inches below my rib cage. It seems to be after

> eating, later

> though, not right away. I did a liver flush about

> 2 months ago, and

> then I did one last night. I passed maybe 50

> small stones total.

> But

> I am still having the occasional pain. I thought

> the cleanse would

> have gotten rid of the pain. Is that pain from

> the gallbladder or

> the

> liver? Any suggestions?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Sue

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" The program is essentially the same no matter

> what: cease harm, protect, lubricate, detox,

> rebuild, support; not necessarily in that order. "

Dave great post---can you give me a bit more thought on this---

I understand cease harm must be low fat to no fat (that I am doing)

and the detox would be the flushes I assume.

As well as all the juicing (veggie and fruit)

the rest I am not as eductate on.

I don't have as much time for myself as I do for my thyroid group---

and nearly no brain left---haha

Takes years to know what works too!!!

thanks for thoughts---tina

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----- Original Message -----

From: tina83862<mailto:tina83862@...>

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Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 10:34 PM

Subject: Re: Goat milk vs cow's milk

" The program is essentially the same no matter

> what: cease harm, protect, lubricate, detox,

> rebuild, support; not necessarily in that order. "

Dave great post---can you give me a bit more thought on this---

I understand cease harm must be low fat to no fat (that I am doing,

and the detox would be the flushes I assume)

Actually, I am of the school of not avoiding cold pressed vegetable oils (it

is about quality of fats, not quantity), in fact extra amounts. Here is why:

You cannot flush the toilet if the water is turned off. Your bile is made of

lipids and you need to run them through to increase flow. Now this is a bit

tricky if you have stones and sludge... obviously. You are constantly running

the risk of another attack. Keeping the gallbladder out of spasm with things

like magnesium, wild cherry bark, jamaican dogwood, etc., is essential.

What I mean by ceasing harm is more like stopping the abuse. As a

general rule, we get to these places through diet and lifestyle, the ultimate

answer then is changes of diet and lifestyle. This is by far the hardest part

of the " treat " ment. Doing something new tends to be far easier than ceasing to

do something we have been doing for the past 30 years (drinking, bacon, donuts,

sitting, etc.).

In regards detox, there are many detoxifying, bile moving herbs and

supplements as well as topicals available to choose from. The beauty is that it

is not as important as which is the best one, most are appropriate. The

important thing is to address all or most of the variables. If you have stones,

and all you due is evict them, more stones are going to become squatters if

nothing else changes.

Keep in mind that again in order to detox you must have bile flow, the

more the merry (if flow is ubstructed, the ubstruction must be dealt with).

Dissolution of the detritus is one of the major concerns. Before flushing, the

smaller, softer, thinner, you can get it the better and more comfortable. This

is why a lot of the recent posts have been talking about fasting and weight loss

" causing " gall issues. They dry, harden, thicken unless modified to take these

issues into account.

As well as all the juicing (veggie and fruit)

the rest I am not as eductate on.

I don't have as much time for myself as I do for my thyroid group---

The gallbladder bone is connected to the thyroid bone...

and nearly no brain left---haha

If I only had one.

Takes years to know what works too!!!

thanks for thoughts---tina

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